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11-01-2009, 10:33 AM
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The Perfect Push Up
Been using these for a few of my clients. Wondering your thoughts on them? I think they work well and the range of motion is beneficial.
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11-01-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrotxtt
Been using these for a few of my clients. Wondering your thoughts on them? I think they work well and the range of motion is beneficial.
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For $20 bucks, why not, anything more is highway robbery unless they're made of metal and would last a lifetime.
Where I have a problem with "the Perfect Push-up" like I'm sure most trainers do, is their cheese dick marketing which makes the thing look like it's the best thing since sliced bread, which it's not...
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11-01-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by askthetrainer
For $20 bucks, why not, anything more is highway robbery unless they're made of metal and would last a lifetime.
Where I have a problem with "the Perfect Push-up" like I'm sure most trainers do, is their cheese dick marketing which makes the thing look like it's the best thing since sliced bread, which it's not...
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exactly... we sell it at our gym and sometimes people ask me things about it like, "Does it really work?" Which leads me to believe that they are looking at it not as a tool that can add a bit of variety to an existing workout but as some sort of magic bullet.
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11-01-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Keltron
exactly... we sell it at our gym and sometimes people ask me things about it like, "Does it really work?" Which leads me to believe that they are looking at it not as a tool that can add a bit of variety to an existing workout but as some sort of magic bullet.
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"Does it really work?" LOL
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11-01-2009, 12:06 PM
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I love them. Much harder than regular pushups
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11-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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I didn't know there was anything wrong with the regular push-up. I think its just a gimmick to make someone rich but hey if it gets someone to exercise...HoooRah.
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11-02-2009, 08:23 PM
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For people who have wrist problems, ok - for people with shoulder issues, no.
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11-03-2009, 12:35 AM
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"Now you can do a pushup ANYWHERE!"
What a stupid ass product.
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11-03-2009, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rap_Rocky
For people who have wrist problems, ok - for people with shoulder issues, no.
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This is interesting to me because I bought a pair (cheap) and I do use them but still prefer regular push ups or using this at an angle on a bench. But, I thought they were advertised as lining up the shoulder (or putting you in a more anatomically correct position) to prevent shoulder issues.
If you get back to this thread, since you are a trainer, please post what the issue is w/these for shoulder if you would. I would really appreciate it, as I have some shoulder issues.
ty!
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11-03-2009, 08:27 AM
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I think unless you can do a regular push up w/perfect form [chest to the ground, no dipping of the hips, stiff as a board from heels to crown] for at least 10 reps, you have no business using this contraption.
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11-03-2009, 09:57 AM
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it can be hard to really plant the hands in internal rotation, and externally rotate the forearm/arm into the shoulder to get the lat activation when using these it seems, so while seemingly getting more range of motion - an option as one person put it for variety - it's putting a person at a potential muscular disadvantage.
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11-03-2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Keltron
I think unless you can do a regular push up w/perfect form [chest to the ground, no dipping of the hips, stiff as a board from heels to crown] for at least 10 reps, you have no business using this contraption.
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Got it. I can barely do regular push-ups and I was struggling w/these. I will go back to regular push-ups - THANK YOU!!
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Originally Posted by mc-
it can be hard to really plant the hands in internal rotation, and externally rotate the forearm/arm into the shoulder to get the lat activation when using these it seems, so while seemingly getting more range of motion - an option as one person put it for variety - it's putting a person at a potential muscular disadvantage.
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hmmmmm......this is outside of my understanding a bit (I am not a trainer) but it sounds like the pt. u make on "You Seem to get more range of motion......" imply's you don't and that this can lead one into potential injury?
Not sure if I have this right but it sound like these are not everything the marketing states (I thought there was some Science behind them??), i.e. just sound like more "Claims".
I will personally "ditch em", go back to regular push-ups!
ty for the specific ans. & saving my shoulder jt.!!............
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11-03-2009, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by J.X
This is interesting to me because I bought a pair (cheap) and I do use them but still prefer regular push ups or using this at an angle on a bench. But, I thought they were advertised as lining up the shoulder (or putting you in a more anatomically correct position) to prevent shoulder issues.
If you get back to this thread, since you are a trainer, please post what the issue is w/these for shoulder if you would. I would really appreciate it, as I have some shoulder issues.
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Although the product may claim to correctly line up the shoulder, there's no denying that it can still be performed incorrectly - it all falls down on the person and how their form is.
The perfect push-up allows you to do push-ups slightly elevated, which is suppose to reduce stress at the wrist joint. BUT, because the handles pivot, it's hard to keep a neutral wrist position throughout the entire exercise. This may be ok for seasoned fitness buffs, but for the average person, or for those with shoulder issues, I wouldn't recommend it. At the very least, check with your doctor beforehand.
ACE (American Council on Exercise) did a study on the perfect push-up and it's efficacy. You can learn more about what they discovered below:
http://www.acefitness.org/article/2745/
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Last edited by Rap_Rocky; 11-03-2009 at 04:21 PM.
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11-04-2009, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrotxtt
Been using these for a few of my clients. Wondering your thoughts on them? I think they work well and the range of motion is beneficial.
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Dumbells work better, dont believe the hype of fancy infomercials
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11-04-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Masta_of_Riddum
Dumbells work better, dont believe the hype of fancy infomercials
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They should do a fancy infomercial with dumbbells... I guarantee dumbbell sales would go through the roof!
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11-06-2009, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by askthetrainer
Where I have a problem with "the Perfect Push-up" like I'm sure most trainers do, is their cheese dick marketing which makes the thing look like it's the best thing since sliced bread, which it's not...
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So many naive people to prey on. It's a get rich scheme, and so many naive people buy it.
This goes for all those gadgets out there.
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11-07-2009, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MVP
So many naive people to prey on. It's a get rich scheme, and so many naive people buy it.
This goes for all those gadgets out there.
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Agreed, Machines and gadgets i believe are a waste of time, the push up was perfected when it was invented, it encourages gymnastic ability, why settle for just trying to make it more difficult, complex and calling it something different? if you want to make a pushup harder all you need to do is increase the reps closer to a persons failure point.
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11-08-2009, 04:46 PM
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So many naive people to prey on. It's a get rich scheme, and so many naive people buy it.
This goes for all those gadgets out there.
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Ha! Yeah, I've found P/Us harder to do on them, but maybe it's because it makes me more conscious to move slowly and pay attention to my form -
Overall any gadget that an informed consumer wants to buy to mix things up is find - that goes for val-slides and the perfect pullup ...
But their marketing about how it works Bis, shoulders, back, abs, and will help you lose fat and carve out a midsection? Overkill -
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