I'm a Fedor fan but last night I feel he got exposed... - Page 3

Lord_Lemon · 11-08-2009, 01:36 PM

I think the point people are trying to make is Fedor wouldn't survive in the same situations against a fighter with a skillset like Brock.

Pretty accurate assessment imo.

Hardcore_D00d · 11-08-2009, 01:43 PM

ive been thinking the same thing, ever since the arlovski fight he hasnt been the same. but dont bring that stuff here fedor nut huggers will just jump on u throwing insults for saying he isnt as good anymore. they just wont accept it. the nut huggery on fedor is astounding, especially in this site. being a fan is something but, fedor here is like a god.

Mrs Grudge · 11-08-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

I think the point people are trying to make is Fedor wouldn't survive in the same situations against a fighter with a skillset like Brock.

Pretty accurate assessment imo.

And at the same time, you have to question if Fedor would have been in those situations in the first place if he had faced someone with Lesnar's skill set. Rogers and Lesnar are completely different fighters, and the approach to beating them both wouldn't be the same.

Uz · 11-08-2009, 01:49 PM

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but to me it seemed as though Rogers become demoralized after GNPing Fedor to no avail, that fire diminished.

MaximusPlatypus · 11-08-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Grudge

And at the same time, you have to question if Fedor would have been in those situations in the first place if he had faced someone with Lesnar's skill set. Rogers and Lesnar are completely different fighters, and the approach to beating them both wouldn't be the same.

This

Every time someone thinks they've seen a vulnerability in Fedor, he'll turn around and kick someone's ass with that so-called weaker part of his game.

bigredlemon · 11-08-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mises

1) he was no where near close to losing as those punches weren't doing much.
2) Big John wouldn't have stopped the fight prematurely, he's arguably the best ref and he would NOT have stopped the fight even if Rogers got in 5-10 more punches.

This.

The fight isn't stopped until fedor stops intelligently defending himself. He was. Just because he was getting hit doesn't mean it was worth stopping.

Lord_Lemon · 11-08-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Grudge

And at the same time, you have to question if Fedor would have been in those situations in the first place if he had faced someone with Lesnar's skill set. Rogers and Lesnar are completely different fighters, and the approach to beating them both wouldn't be the same.

I know what you are saying but the hole in your argument lies in assuming Fedor would have any choice in the matter against Brock.

MaximusPlatypus · 11-08-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

I know what you are saying but the hole in your argument lies assuming Fedor would have any choice in the matter against Brock.

At this point, to give Lesnar better than 25% chance of beating Fedor is insane. His gaping weaknesses consist of questionable cardio, lack of experience, untested chin, etc

He fills some of these gaps with incredible size, strength, and agility, and he is certainly a threat to Fedor.. but IMO he has a long way to go before I'd give him a 50/50 shot against Fedor

Lord_Lemon · 11-08-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximusPlatypus

At this point, to give Lesnar better than 25% chance of beating Fedor is insane. His gaping weaknesses consist of questionable cardio, lack of experience, untested chin, etc

I wouldn't call something unproven a "gaping weakness".

MaximusPlatypus · 11-08-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

I wouldn't call something unproven a "gaping weakness".

Ok

I'll just say I'd be scared ****less if/when Fedor and Lesnar meet in the cage.

MyLastSerenade · 11-08-2009, 02:04 PM

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oh and any elite heavy weight boxer would knock fedor out. he has no stand up defense. that fat ****er rogers busted his nose with an off hand jab...

I'll just ignore the other pile of fail you brought to the table and point out something.

4oz gloves Vs 16oz lobster claws

Al_Pal · 11-08-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MyLastSerenade

I'll just ignore the other pile of fail you brought to the table and point out something.

4oz gloves Vs 16oz lobster claws

i was keeping it civil til my cp started lookin like xmas.... and u can trust me they werent saying the nicest most civil things in defense of mma.

and pro boxing doesnt use 16 oz... try 12.

but yeah makes a difference.

NaturalAthlete5 · 11-08-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Spit

Well, you're dumb.

You may need a sarcasm detector my friend...lol

MyLastSerenade · 11-08-2009, 02:15 PM

OK, hit your girlfriend with a pillow on your hand, then hit her with a roll of toilet paper on your hand and see which one gets you locked up.

AuroraPsycho28 · 11-08-2009, 02:23 PM

Fedor is constantly exposed, yet no one is ever able to capitalize on it.

mx3639 · 11-08-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by my_whey

Lesnar's chin is suspect? and what are you backing this up with? the times he has been dropped? which is uhmmmmm...never? rogers would have little to no chance of beating Lesnar IMO.

Fedor nut huggers need to see the real picture...which is he looked like crap last night against a guy who is not an elite fighter.

lesnar did say mir rocked him for a second in an interview

battousai216 · 11-08-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

I think the point people are trying to make is Fedor wouldn't survive in the same situations against a fighter with a skillset like Brock.

Pretty accurate assessment imo.

what exactly do you think lesnar would have done better in those situations? from what i saw that GnP that roger put on fedor was more damaging then any by brock so far in his carreer.

Lord_Lemon · 11-08-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by battousai216

what exactly do you think lesnar would have done better in those situations? from what i saw that GnP that roger put on fedor was more damaging then any by brock so far in his carreer.

Are you just a blind hater? You think Brett's gnp was more damaging than this?

battousai216 · 11-08-2009, 03:25 PM

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Are you just a blind hater? You think Brett's gnp was more damaging than this?

uh yes. There are probably only a couple heavyweights that can beat brock but fedor is one of them.

several of reogers punches were right on the button and fedor is fine. So what reason do you have to believe lesnar would be the first guy to ever stop fedor? Mir is the first guy hes finished by GnP really couture was finished standing up for the most part.

brock is a powerful dude but these punches by roger i think are better. I would ask if you are just a blind nuthugger but i already know the answer.

SmarterChild · 11-08-2009, 03:52 PM

OP is a retard and has nver watched a fedor fight before this 1

Dragger · 11-08-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by my_whey

I'm a Fedor fan but last night I feel he got exposed...

Yeah, about that...

forcefedfreak · 11-08-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

I know what you are saying but the hole in your argument lies in assuming Fedor would have any choice in the matter against Brock.

Ironically the hole in your argument is actually just that. An argument based on an assumed premise fails, regardless of how likely the premise is to be true.

**BPP** · 11-08-2009, 05:13 PM

once again for those who dont pay attention:

I had seats on the entrance ramp. fedor had pre-existing damage to the face, it was very obvious up close he was healing from old cuts, and that it wouldnt be hard to get split open again

he didnt get out punched except for maybe 5 shots ont he ground, at which time he almost arm barred him

haters gonna hate

TheClips · 11-08-2009, 05:26 PM

Didn't read anything but the OP.

Fedor has never been invincible or immune from damage.

Two of his most shining moments include him being launched head over heels and onto his neck by a rabid Kevin Randlman and doing the chicken dance after being nearly knocked silly by Fujita.

His aura comes not from being immune from damage, it comes from his calm demeanor, non-flashy behavior, unathletic-looking body, perseverance, performance and finally, his record.

If you didn't already know this, I suggest you ignore the noob Fedor hype and examine his fights from the past.

The man is a legend for a reason, and it's not because he simply runs through every opponent he faces.

Gzus · 11-08-2009, 05:45 PM

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doing the chicken dance after being nearly knocked silly by Fujita.

I was screaming for that neanderthal to KO Fedor. 5 years? later I've given up on that.

Fedor1 · 11-08-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BPP

once again for those who dont pay attention:

I had seats on the entrance ramp. fedor had pre-existing damage to the face, it was very obvious up close he was healing from old cuts, and that it wouldnt be hard to get split open again

he didnt get out punched except for maybe 5 shots ont he ground, at which time he almost arm barred him

haters gonna hate

He got it from Alex when they were sparring.
Just so you know what it was from.

**BPP** · 11-08-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedor1

He got it from Alex when they were sparring.
Just so you know what it was from.

oops @ Alex lol

FX45 · 11-08-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoopDogg

The slow motion gifs on Sherdog already showed Fedor only got hit clean twice, but both punches didn't have enough power to really do anything. Not to mention Rogers' GnP was desperate since he was put in an armbar right after the GnP. The cage messed up the attempt (Fedor's first time fighting in a cage).

^^^^^THIS

OP you don't know what you're talking about.

Also Fedor was trying to do the same arm bar attempt during that GNP which he finished hung man choi with....

Fedor1 · 11-08-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BPP

oops @ Alex lol

good pic

Black_Spit · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

Yup, it's pretty obvious in the close-ups. ^^^