I'm a Fedor fan but last night I feel he got exposed...

[NaturalAthlete5]

Originally Posted by Al_Pal

not saying there are NO great athletes....

but you look at that main even last night... you cant tell me either of those guys has the conditioning/atheltic ability/fast twitch muscles of even a mid level boxer.


fedor could have done nothing but counter punched and knocked dude out(which he did)

roger threw such wide sloppy slow ass punches... even fedor did. he finally shortened one up and caught rogers on the chin... on the inside of a rogers hook.

i guess im just a boxing fan and that was like watchin a terrible golden gloves match... actually it was more like back yard boxing... and this is supposed to be the best mma guy in the world??

This isnt boxing dude...lol. In case you didnt know MMA and boxing are too different sports, put those boxers in a octagon and see what happens....

[jakobi]

thats what makes fedor the best....always find a way when he's in trouble

lol at rogers winning round 1..
-broke fedor's nose
-3 secs of gnp....thats was like 5 secs of him winning in round 1...the rest, fedor

Originally Posted by my_whey

but the "best fighter in MMA and maybe the world" wouldn't let a Brett Rogers get on top of him, mount him and smash him in the face a few times....

[Starwars69]

Originally Posted by my_whey

Let's all be honest with each other... Brett Rogers is NOT an elite fighter.... not at all. He is a big power puncher but that is it.... I feel like Brock Lesnar would of beat Rogers in less then 2 mins via GNP.

Last night he gave the man many lable unbeatable his toughest fight to date......thats right, a guy who basically has one tool, which is punching, was a few punches away while on top of Fedor of the fight being stopped......

At the end of the day Fedor pulled it off......but he was out punched in the first round and was shaken up and had his nose broken early....then when he decided not to stand and punch with Rogers he went to the ground game...only to not suceed in it and found himself on the bottom of some huge bombs by Rogers... I felt if Rogers kept swinging Big John would of stopped it as he was hitting Fedor flush with a few shots while on top.

Fedor scored the flash knockdown and got the W and at the end of the day thats all that matters...but he nearly got beat by someone who isn't a top guy..... someone who Brock would beat easily in my opinion.

I love Fedor....but he would not beat Lesnar and last night any doubts I had about that were gone.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120219961

There ya go Op.

[Mouzer]

Originally Posted by my_whey

Fedor was VERY close to losing when Rogers was doing the GNP... I already said that.

He hit Fedor with about 3-4 good shots while on top... a good 2-3 more and big John may of stepped in as I have seen fights stopped for much less.

Holy **** brah, you either are a Fedor hater or just plain dumb. He got hit with 3 or 4 punches on the ground and that equals the fight almost being stopped? He was close to losing? Seriously?
Ya Fedor was so rocked and in danger by those that he immed. went for an armbar from the bottom right?

I realize the expectations for Fedor are so ridiculously high but come on. Unless he dominates every second of the fight and finishes the guy in the 1st round we hear people like you saying he is overrated or he was exposed. OMG he got punched a few times!! Same **** as after the Arlovski fight

[AWhislyle]

Originally Posted by my_whey

Fedor was VERY close to losing when Rogers was doing the GNP... I already said that.

He hit Fedor with about 3-4 good shots while on top... a good 2-3 more and big John may of stepped in as I have seen fights stopped for much less.

And if Fedor had hit Rogers with the KO punch in the first 10 seconds the fight would have only been 10 seconds long? WTF are you saying, hypothetically if Roger had beat Fedor, he would have beat him, yeah, great deduction there, it means nothing, Rogers did his best against Fedor and came up lacking.

[The_Reaper]

Originally Posted by Al_Pal

lol... she a dumb little girl.... but i can tell her comments touched your soul... you another scared little man who thinks watching mma makes him tough?

cause my opinion varies im bad? mma fans are just lame... obviously not all, but if you were honest with yourself you would admit that cliche mma fan is a total tool

Lol. Your girlfriend sounds like a dumb inbred whore.

[mjfan12]

Originally Posted by the_guvna

idiot, fedor is often hurt in his fights, rocked by fujita, slammed on his head by randleman, almost kimura'd by mark hunt, absorb a Crocop kick only to smash them seconds later, the only thing that got "exposed" last night was fedor's unique ability to stay calm and wait for his oppertunity after having his nose broken at the very beginning of the fight.

THIS

Gdammit, are you guys watching him for the first time? Fedor doesnt always dominate the whole fight. He gets hit, he's not invincible. BUT he always stays calm and finds a way to win.

That's why he's the champ.

[brah_of_iron]

Originally Posted by Al_Pal

not saying there are NO great athletes....

but you look at that main even last night... you cant tell me either of those guys has the conditioning/atheltic ability/fast twitch muscles of even a mid level boxer.


fedor could have done nothing but counter punched and knocked dude out(which he did)

roger threw such wide sloppy slow ass punches... even fedor did. he finally shortened one up and caught rogers on the chin... on the inside of a rogers hook.

i guess im just a boxing fan and that was like watchin a terrible golden gloves match... actually it was more like back yard boxing... and this is supposed to be the best mma guy in the world??

They definitely have the conditioning and power to match any boxer. 3 five minute rounds of wrestling/stand up is EXTREMELY taxing, to the point where if you were to try even one sparring round right now you wouldn't even finish the whole round, trust me.

Plus Fedor is known for those wide punches, but trust that there's incredible power behind them. Even fighters with good boxing (like Randy C) can't let their skills fully show because at the same time they're punching someone they have to be on guard for the take down/knee/counter punch/ kick to the head. MMA and boxing have very different mind sets when approaching an opponent. You don't watch MMA to see top notch striking, you watch it to see a damn quality fight between two skilled athletes using whatever they can to pull off the win.

[MaximusPlatypus]

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[mfitty9000]

Fedor might lose one day, but he has been on fire for years. Even if he lost last night, I'd still have full respect for him. But he landed one of the most brutal KO's I've seen in a long time.


Look how much the OP is all over Lesnar's nuts. At least Rogers absolutely brutalized Arlovski, who I would rate as a better fighter then Mir or a 46 year old Couture.

[battousai216]

Originally Posted by my_whey

yes, he did.

he also broke Fedor's nose with the first punch, got out of submission holds by Fedor and ground and pounded Fedor.

getting out of a submission you never should have been caught in doesnt mean youre winning.

[Lord_Lemon]

Originally Posted by Mises

If anyone has been exposed between Lesnar and Fedor it is Lesnar... his cardio is questionable as seen when he was fighting Randy.

What was questionable about Brock's cardio in the Randy fight?

[masterjb]

Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

What was questionable about Brock's cardio in the Randy fight?

he was visibly winded and checking the clock, everyone saw that

[guest89]

Originally Posted by my_whey

only to not suceed in it and found himself on the bottom of some huge bombs by Rogers... I felt if Rogers kept swinging Big John would of stopped it as he was hitting Fedor flush with a few shots while on top.

Lulz are you serious? Fedor was definitely taking bombs to the face, but the entire time he was trying to catch an arm to go for an armbar. Fedor was aggressively trying for a sub even though he was getting hit... I don't think he was really in danger or else he'd have been trying to protect himself rather then leaving himself open while going for a sub.

[SnoopDogg]

Anyone more afraid for Rogers when Fedor was on top?

[NaturalAthlete5]

I honestly believe that people around here hate on Fedor because he's not built like a bodybuilder..

[Black_Spit]

Originally Posted by NaturalAthlete5

I honestly believe that people around here hate on Fedor because he's not built like a bodybuilder..

Well, you're dumb.

[jakobi]

lol what ...u didn't see the fight or were u too busy checking out his cock tattoo

Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

What was questionable about Brock's cardio in the Randy fight?

[LatsMakeTheMan]

Originally Posted by Al_Pal

not saying there are NO great athletes....

but you look at that main even last night... you cant tell me either of those guys has the conditioning/atheltic ability/fast twitch muscles of even a mid level boxer.


fedor could have done nothing but counter punched and knocked dude out(which he did)

roger threw such wide sloppy slow ass punches... even fedor did. he finally shortened one up and caught rogers on the chin... on the inside of a rogers hook.

i guess im just a boxing fan and that was like watchin a terrible golden gloves match... actually it was more like back yard boxing... and this is supposed to be the best mma guy in the world??

Put your boxer in a cage with Fedor.....Fedor will take him down and put submissions on him he's never heard of.

Christ, I can't believe there are still people this ****ing stupid out there. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. Being good at one thing doesn't mean **** anymore.

[Al_Pal]

Originally Posted by NaturalAthlete5

I honestly believe that people around here hate on Fedor because he's not built like a bodybuilder..

Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan

Put your boxer in a cage with Fedor.....Fedor will take him down and put submissions on him he's never heard of.

Christ, I can't believe there are still people this ****ing stupid out there. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. Being good at one thing doesn't mean **** anymore.

i absolutley believe fedor would take a boxer in an mma fight.

but when they describe someone like rogers having a "punchers" chance... than someone who can really punch would have a better chance.

rogers had to have some power, but his strikes were so slow that fedor was able to counter to the chin with ease.

[the_guvna]

Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan

Put your boxer in a cage with Fedor.....Fedor will take him down and put submissions on him he's never heard of.

Christ, I can't believe there are still people this ****ing stupid out there. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. Being good at one thing doesn't mean **** anymore.

I think he's just mad that you can't call vitali klitchko the greatest fighter in the world anymore without getting laughed at

[Gzus]

Originally Posted by my_whey

yes, he did.

he also broke Fedor's nose with the first punch, got out of submission holds by Fedor and ground and pounded Fedor.

This is how much of a test I saw this fight as being for Fedor:

Originally Posted by Gzus

Fedor:
Ate a jab that slid all over his face, got cut/re-opened
Punched himself while on the cage (anybody else see this?)
Took 4 punches during the gnp moment *then went for the armbar->69*
Got his knee hyper extended when Rogers kicked it. Fedor was favoring that leg for a while after

Rogers:
Got thrown like he wasn't gigantic compared to Fedor
Ate a left hook that had him covering up and scrambling to clinch.
Go thrown into the cage, then collected a partial shoulder throw->single leg
Took 5 punches to the head while on his side *then fought off a kimura*
Was blowing after being in 69 with Fedor
Got hit by a nuclear missile and traveled through time for a moment.

[Lift88]

Rogers did a lot better on the ground than I (and a lot) of people thought he would. Some of my thoughts on the fight:

The opening jab obviously busted Fedor's nose up a bit. Fedor was definitely the aggressor and seemed to control the space better (I don't think too many people would disagree with this statement). Now for the first round highlights:

- Rogers opens with a jab that opens up Fedor's nose
- Fedor throws a quick left -> right which he immediately takes Rogers down and lands in side control
- Rogers gets up and pushes Fedor against the cage (at 4:00) Rogers holds him here till 2:59, Fedor pushes away
- Fedor lands a nice left shot to which Rogers immediately covers up, Fedor rushes in, a lot of blocked shots
- Fedor takes him down after the blocked shots, lands weak, short punches to the head, attempts a kimura
- Rogers winds up in Fedor's guard, lands 3 clean (nice) punches along with many more thrown clipping, Fedor attempts an armbar unable to finish with the cage in the way
- Fedor lands a few weak punches while Rogers is on his hands and knees
- Fedor winds up in Roger's half guard, Fedor attempts an arm triangle.
- Fedor stands up, Roger's kicks at Fedor's knee, Fedor attempts a leaping punch, winds up in Roger's guard
- Round 1 ends




Definitely the highlight of the round for Rogers, I don't feel this, the opening jab and pinning him against the cage for a minute were worthy enough to give him the round, but others may disagree, and I won't argue back, Rogers did well. Fedor had more shots landed standing, a big left that had Rogers covered up / being thrown around, two takedowns, three sub attempts, pushed the action and remained active on top (no stalling on his part). I think Rogers did very well on the ground, I question if Fedor would have gotten the armbar had he not of been pressed up against the cage, but, that's part of fighting in a cage.

[Al_Pal]

Originally Posted by the_guvna

I think he's just mad that you can't call vitali klitchko the greatest fighter in the world anymore without getting laughed at

i have hated kitchko my whole life...

and at no point was kitchko even the pound for pound #1 boxer in the world....

so what the **** are you talking about??

[the_guvna]

Originally Posted by Al_Pal

i have hated kitchko my whole life...

and at no point was kitchko even the pound for pound #1 boxer in the world....

so what the **** are you talking about??

you are clearly an MMA hater, so feel free to gtfo this section and take your shit posts with you, you can lick my balls

kthxbye

[shaihulud]

ITT people who have watched their first Fedor fight.

[matt3989]

the only thing fedor proved is that you can break his nose and GNP him with 5+ good punches but he will still come out of it and kick your ass. People who are questioning fedor don't understand his fighting style. He often takes a beating and looks submissive but always wins, It's just how he works. I do think the cage had an effect on fedor landing some submissions. I think he would have gotten that armbar if he wasn't pushed against the cage.

[battousai216]

Originally Posted by shaihulud

ITT people who have watched their first Fedor fight.

ITForum people who say any fighter who loses once or gets taken down is a overrated can.

[Chris A]

fedor was not exposed and was no wheres near to the fight being stopped when he got ground and pounded a bit.

[Wcustom]

Learn a couple things about MMA... first of all when Rogers was dropping bombs Fedor was setting up the armbar, watch it again and you will see. Plus, Fedor said he was feeling Rogers out in the 1st, just like Anderson does against a lot of his opponents.

Btw, Fedor would kill Brock at this point. They just have different fighting styles and Fedor wanted to feel Rogers out in the 1st.