Im not sure if it could actually expand the rib cage but it does stretch and build the serratus pretty well.
EDIT: i think a widegrip on the EZ bar while doing it on a decline bench stimulates this best
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Once your body is I believe around the age of 10 or 13 your ribcage is pretty much solid. The bones and tissure around them will grow but no such thing as expanding. If you could expand it would you really want to F up your skeletal frame?
it amazers me that you ask such stupid questions on some topics yet are so stoic and unwavering on other topics expressing your opinion as absolute fact
to answer your question. not doing pull overs wont make your ribs grow, it might/will hypertrophy a few of the muscles around the rib cage making it appear bigger/giving you more of a v taper
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Im not sure if it could actually expand the rib cage but it does stretch and build the serratus pretty well.
EDIT: i think a widegrip on the EZ bar while doing it on a decline bench stimulates this best
Yeah good for the serratus.
True thanks i have never tryed pull-overs with a EZ bar might give it a go sometime.
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Once your body is I believe around the age of 10 or 13 your ribcage is pretty much solid. The bones and tissure around them will grow but no such thing as expanding. If you could expand it would you really want to F up your skeletal frame?
At the age of 10-13?
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it amazers me that you ask such stupid questions on some topics yet are so stoic and unwavering on other topics expressing your opinion as absolute fact
to answer your question. not doing pull overs wont make your ribs grow, it might/will hypertrophy a few of the muscles around the rib cage making it appear bigger/giving you more of a v taper
Lolz.
Yeah i know the ribs itself wont actually grow but im talking about the actual rib cage "expanding" I always hear alot of people talking about this and how it expands the rib cage, just was never sure if it was true or not.
Just found this video on Kevin Levrone talking about pull-overs expanding the rib cage.
He be talking bro-science?
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He is talking about expanding the rib cage while doing the exercises, not permanently. This gives that area a good stretch by opening up the rib cage and pulling back up w/ the serratus.
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He is talking about expanding the rib cage while doing the exercises, not permanently. This gives that area a good stretch by opening up the rib cage and pulling back up w/ the serratus.
No he is talking about permently.
Watch the entire video at the end (2:05+) he says it expands the rib cage so when he is on stage he can hit these certian poses.
Lol at Kevin making sound effects when posing.
"bamm" "poom" "bamm"
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By 10 to 13 im just saying when the body pretty much solidifys up. In the same way your skull when your young is very soft and malleable.
sorry but this is very inaccurate. your midsection, bone structure include, grows until growth plates are closed. which is commonly between 17-21
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Watch the entire video at the end (2:05+) he says it expands the rib cage so when he is on stage he can hit these certian poses.
Lol at Kevin making sound effects when posing.
"bamm" "poom" bamm"
he is talking about more potential ROM caused from increased flexibility in that area. the bone structure itself will not change though.
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he is talking about more potential ROM caused from increased flexibility in that area. the bone structure itself will not change though.
Well how come Kevin Levrone says how they "expand" the rib cage, so when he is on stage he can hit these certian poses? Does the rib cage not "expand" at all from the pull-overs?
Is Kevin just talking some bro-science?
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Well how come Kevin Levrone says how they "expand" the rib cage, so when he is on stage he can hit these certian poses? Does the rib cage not "expand" at all from the pull-overs?
Is Kevin just talking some bro-science haha?
hahha yea it is bro science if he truely believes he is expanding that area. like i said, the fibers can become more flexible allowing him to spread it further apart for a pose, but not permanent expansion of the bone structure. also, building the serratus and core muscles from this will cause you to appear thicker in that area as well.
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hahha yea it is bro science if he truely believes he is expanding that area. like i said, the fibers can become more flexible allowing him to spread it further apart for a pose, but not permanent expansion of the bone structure. also, building the serratus and core muscles from this will cause you to appear thicker in that area as well.
Haha true that.
I hear this so much times though all over the internet and in interviews and even the PT at my gym was telling me this how it expands the rib cage.
I always belived it was somewhat true, i guess not.
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hahha yea it is bro science if he truely believes he is expanding that area. like i said, the fibers can become more flexible allowing him to spread it further apart for a pose, but not permanent expansion of the bone structure. also, building the serratus and core muscles from this will cause you to appear thicker in that area as well.
this makes sense. Arnold always said (and was challenged) that these pullovers expanded the ribcage in his Modern Encyclopedia.
btw does any one know when that Kevin Levrone video was made?
he is supposed to be making a come back or some thing
Just found this video on Kevin Levrone talking about pull-overs expanding the rib cage.
He be talking bro-science?
lol bar, bench, steel.
steel.
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this makes sense. Arnold always said (and was challenged) that these pullovers expanded the ribcage in his Modern Encyclopedia.
btw does any one know when that Kevin Levrone video was made?
he is supposed to be making a come back or some thing
Yeah Arnold was another that belived that pull-overs expanded the rib cage.
Not to sure when that video was from, but yes he is having a come back search him up on google or youtube alot of info, i also think www.levronereport.com is the site which you can follow his transformation on, he is gaining muscle like crazy.
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There's an article on T-nation. Search.
According to that article, you might be able to expand your rib cage, when you're between 10-15 years of age.
So only when you 10-15 years of age?
So basically pull-overs dont expand the rib cage what so ever?
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The rib cage is not just composed of bones but also flexible cartilage.
You can expand your rib cage no matter what your age is, unless the cartilage is calcified.
People who have the COPD condition emphysema develop a barrel chest through rib cage expansion. These people are usually in their 60's with this disease. This happens as their lungs hyper inflate and through the deep forceful inspirations of air.
Although rib cage expansion is possible its varies from person to person of what is possible.
I added over 3 inches to my chest through deep breathing exercises.
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Most pros have been lifting since the age of 11-12.
True but thats not what they are talking about,they are actually meaning like expanding there rib cage when they are in there pro status, not when they were younger.
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The rib cage is not just composed of bones but also flexible cartilage.
You can expand your rib cage no matter what your age is, unless the cartilage is calcified.
People who have the COPD condition emphysema develop a barrel chest through rib cage expansion. These people are usually in their 60's with this disease. This happens as their lungs hyper inflate and through the deep forceful inspirations of air.
Although rib cage expansion is possible its varies from person to person of what is possible.
I added over 3 inches to my chest through deep breathing exercises.
Interesting, so dumbell pull-overs do infact expand the rib cage?
(im confused right about now)
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Most pros have been lifting since the age of 11-12.
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The rib cage is not just composed of bones but also flexible cartilage.
Finally, someone hit the nail on the head.
It's not the rib cage bones, but the cartilidge holding it. Theoretically, it will permanently stretch your ribcage if you do them correctly (hips down, heavy).
I've been doing them and I love them (and can tell the difference it makes). It makes your chest look higher and fuller and the pullover (the exercise) is great for developing the serratus, lats, and beefing up the clavicles (which makes your v-taper look more impressive.)
It's not the rib cage bones, but the cartilidge holding it. Theoretically, it will permanently stretch your ribcage if you do them correctly (hips down, heavy).
I've been doing them and I love them (and can tell the difference it makes). It makes your chest look higher and fuller and the pullover (the exercise) is great for developing the serratus, lats, and beefing up the clavicles (which makes your v-taper look more impressive.)
Try them.
Thanks for the post man.
So after all pull-overs do infact expand the rib cage which will help contribute to the V-Taper and its not just all some bro-science.
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WTF is that haha, that looks disgusting, is that actually real?
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It's not the rib cage bones, but the cartilidge holding it. Theoretically, it will permanently stretch your ribcage if you do them correctly (hips down, heavy).
Okay, you just convinced me to add pullovers to my routine.
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The guy with the "alien chest protrusion" is none other than Ellington Darden of HIT fame; this shot looks like it was taken in his mid-twenties (I think he's 63 now) and it is a mind-bender. Millard Williamson (a builder in the 1940's) was also famous for a huge ribcage, as were Reg Park and Arnold--all of them did pullovers with either a barbell or dumbbells.
Okay, history lesson over. The point about stretching the cartilage is well-taken; if you're going to do pullovers make sure you have FULL control over them. I think they can help to expand your ribcage somewhat, but they can also put a strain on your ab muscles if you use too much weight.
As a sidenote, the late Vince Gironda didn't like his "proteges" using pullovers as he felt that they made the lifter look too "boxy"--he had a point, although that would be a problem only for the more thick-waisted of us (i.e. me). Now, if they build the "penis lines" then JR will doubly love them. (Just kidding, JR; you've got the right idea on this particular move).
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