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[kingtego]

Alright guys, opinions on my actions:

Cliffs:

Me and chick plan to go to Maroon 5 concert together.

She says she can't go because she has studying and other ****, but I can come over that night at 10 pm.

She texts me at like 9 saying her friends made her go to Maroon 5, she won't be home at 10.

I act indifferent, she asks me to come back a little later, I don't feel like dealing with it, so I just say I'll talk to her some other time, I'm going partying.


I stand by my decision, but what of it brahs.


The way I see it, she bull****ted on me twice, and I am showing her that I am not another orbiter that is going to supplicate to her plans. I am on my own ****.

[Hella Toof]

Man I think I figured out my biggest problem with girls. I just need to be the man, I find my self wanting them to do all the work and call me and ask me to go do so and such. I need to be the man and tell them we are going to do this on this day. This has screwed me countless times and I didn't put it together, I need to do some more reflecting.

Also i have another question, if I pick some girl up at a bar I cant take her to my house(still live at home) and I usually walk to bars(they are right in town). Should I say "hey lets go back to your place and make out" or suggest watching a movie at their house or something? tips/experiences? I'd hate to settle for a number due to the first thing I posted but maybe it would be a chance to get over it.

Sorry to ramble

/post

Edit: Just got back from the bar, the cute girl that tried talking to me is apparently a bar tender and she is 33, I talked to her a little but she was working and it was pretty busy so I just got her name and age. Do women that age generally go for guys who are 21? I mean I am a ****ing machine but I look young for my age... Either way If I see her when she isn't working I'm going to try for it. If you have tips for getting older women let me know.(also the bar tender I posted about before who wanted me before her boyfriend showed up was 33, any tips for getting older women/bartenders?)(I need to spread before i can rep again)

I hope the edit is somewhat coherent, I'm pretty drunk right now, let me know fi you need clarifiction.

[N4th4n]

Originally Posted by kingtego

Alright guys, opinions on my actions:

Cliffs:

Me and chick plan to go to Maroon 5 concert together.

She says she can't go because she has studying and other ****, but I can come over that night at 10 pm.

She texts me at like 9 saying her friends made her go to Maroon 5, she won't be home at 10.

I act indifferent, she asks me to come back a little later, I don't feel like dealing with it, so I just say I'll talk to her some other time, I'm going partying.


I stand by my decision, but what of it brahs.


The way I see it, she bull****ted on me twice, and I am showing her that I am not another orbiter that is going to supplicate to her plans. I am on my own ****.

totally right thing to do dude.
Don't let her walk all over you.

[InclineDBPresss]

Originally Posted by kingtego

Alright guys, opinions on my actions:

Cliffs:

Me and chick plan to go to Maroon 5 concert together.

She says she can't go because she has studying and other ****, but I can come over that night at 10 pm.

She texts me at like 9 saying her friends made her go to Maroon 5, she won't be home at 10.

I act indifferent, she asks me to come back a little later, I don't feel like dealing with it, so I just say I'll talk to her some other time, I'm going partying.


I stand by my decision, but what of it brahs.


The way I see it, she bull****ted on me twice, and I am showing her that I am not another orbiter that is going to supplicate to her plans. I am on my own ****.

It's not even a you "****ing her over" thing... It's just, she didn't comply with your reality and so you lost interest. You didn't blow her off because you were mad about her indecision, she just fell out of your reality because she didn't come along and thats her loss.

[kingtego]

Originally Posted by N4th4n

totally right thing to do dude.
Don't let her walk all over you.

Originally Posted by InclineDBPresss

It's not even a you "****ing her over" thing... It's just, she didn't comply with your reality and so you lost interest. You didn't blow her off because you were mad about her indecision, she just fell out of your reality because she didn't come along and thats her loss.

Yeah that's how I feel. I already adapted by saying, ok, we won't go to the concert, but I want to give it a chance, so I'll go over, but her just switching up and going with her friends and then trying to get me to come over was just too much of an assertion of power for me to accept.

[bigboy18]

So what are your thoughts on talking to girls through facebook?

Is it weak? I honestly just started using it again...messaging random girls, girls that i know, girls that i just met..etc

Thing is, I just use "Hello! how are you?" line...

I feel like a creep using this thing lol..but whatever

[Canuck5056]

So tonight I went out to the bar for the first time in a while...been on a vicious cold streak for a long time...anyway girl I work with is out, I end up dancing with her friend for ~2 hours on and off, and make out with her on the floor for a large part of it, then get driven home by my work friend with her in the back and get nothing at the end...uhhh...

I got her number but not sure how I should handle this. Suggestions?

[ranDOMED]

its been a while since Ive asked for advice but this one has me stumped. so my gf of 1.5 months wouldnt let me go down today. I dont go down often but she has never denied before. shes been acting a lil off lately so I was gonna go down and check visually and smell to see if something was up. cuz i didnt **** her for 2 days. anyway Im trying to go down and shes like nooo you cant do that blah blah. im like why the **** not you never said no before. she just keeps sayin no.
then later shes like you shouldnt be questening me when I say no. I was like bish, you have never said no to that before of course Im gonna be like wtf?


so anyone got a past exp with this sit? was I in the wrong?

[steel-tek]

Originally Posted by bigboy18

So what are your thoughts on talking to girls through facebook?

Is it weak? I honestly just started using it again...messaging random girls, girls that i know, girls that i just met..etc

Thing is, I just use "Hello! how are you?" line...

I feel like a creep using this thing lol..but whatever

Face to face would be better IMO, but facebook is alright sometimes. If its an opener line u want, Try using situational lines, like "Hey, we met at ___ party, it was dope yeah" i dunno, u gotta tailor it to fit your situation. With the random girls, unless she's some chick u really wanna get with, take a few risks, try some lines you never tried before, see how it goes, then you know whats good to use later on

Originally Posted by Canuck5056

So tonight I went out to the bar for the first time in a while...been on a vicious cold streak for a long time...anyway girl I work with is out, I end up dancing with her friend for ~2 hours on and off, and make out with her on the floor for a large part of it, then get driven home by my work friend with her in the back and get nothing at the end...uhhh...

I got her number but not sure how I should handle this. Suggestions?

Wait a few days, see if she hits u up, if not, hit her up, but wait at least 3 days (it makes u seem like youre busy, you have a life of your own). Hit her up, make plans with her to do something fun, or at least something you'd expect she'd like. Or you could just invite her to your place, your call on how fast u wanna take things

[RickStaaa]

Originally Posted by kineticforce

just to add to what janks said... IMO do not talk to her about not being on the same page....let her wonder -

she likes you - she doesnt sound swim fan obsessed - just likes you a lot and she might feel you are not showing enough interest for her. yeah i know what you are saying in your messages but hey chicks are weird sometimes - if its too much for you get out - but really just hang out with her when you can. She will get it eventually - and as janky said space out your replies even longer.

btw how often are you seeing her?

at the most twice a week....hung out with her tuesday night and spent the night fri lolz no poon becuz i was suppose to cook her dinner and make desert i did neither so as "punishment" all i got was kiss i lol'd later in the night i found out she really liked a hand around her neck ( IT REALLY got her going the 1st time)

either way guys looks like she's a bit chubbier then i thought do not want. I mean i really just don't take her seriously i have 0 feelings for her..... I'm done with going to her place and gettin nothin its retarded she so fuking old school and believes in life long love...probably why she wants me to cook for her....

So what now brahs whats the "nicest" way of withdrawing or is responding very little the standard way

[blinky99]

Originally Posted by RickStaaa

at the most twice a week....hung out with her tuesday night and spent the night fri lolz no poon becuz i was suppose to cook her dinner and make desert i did neither so as "punishment" all i got was kiss i lol'd later in the night i found out she really liked a hand around her neck ( IT REALLY got her going the 1st time)

either way guys looks like she's a bit chubbier then i thought do not want. I mean i really just don't take her seriously i have 0 feelings for her..... I'm done with going to her place and gettin nothin its retarded she so fuking old school and believes in life long love...probably why she wants me to cook for her....

So what now brahs whats the "nicest" way of withdrawing or is responding very little the standard way

Is this the girl we was talking bout earlier? but ya thats what i usally do, or if you want to go all mature just be like i had some fun but im really just not into you like i thought i was or something.

[RickStaaa]

Originally Posted by blinky99

Is this the girl we was talking bout earlier? but ya thats what i usally do, or if you want to go all mature just be like i had some fun but im really just not into you like i thought i was or something.

ya same girl

[Agentdark45]

Originally Posted by janky

The latter part is accurate. It's all in your head.

Guess what? Those girls you see... there's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of them. If one wants to act like a snotty cnt, promptly tell her to go fck herself, and try another.

There is no fcking possible way you could hit on 100 girls that look like that and get shot down by 100% of them. It's mathematically/statistically impossible.

you're creating mental barriers for yourself. Girls that look that "hot" because they're over-compensating. You know the guys that rock affliction and try to start sht with everyone to look tough?
Those girls are the female equivalent. Hence the reason they usually hook up with those guys lol..
All it is is a defense mechanism. People feel weak on the inside or traumatized by some life circumstance/event, so they build up a rock hard exterior (guys with toughness, girls with sexual appeal) and try to come off "untouchable" so that no one fcks with their fragile lil worlds..

Girls like that are fcking cake. Party + booze + make fun = BJ in the bathroom.
The more you act like they're a "higher status" and put them on a pedestal, the further you push yourself from every getting action from one.
The more you don't give two fcks and treat them like you're doing THEM a favor, the more you feed into their desires and pull them in closer.
When they get in, clown them and ignore them. Watch them go nuts and beg for cock/attention.

Following on from this post,

How then would one go about opening one of these women without communicating interest?

I mean, if you give them attention they don't want it / will reject you. But at the same time, if you don't open, then they won't recognise you exist. Doesn't opening inherantly mean that she has something that you want (sex), thus her value is automatically higher than yours?

Catch 22 situation is catch 22...

Question 2:

I've taken on board your last advice and I'm striking up random conversations with women in static situations i.e if we're waiting for a lift, in a line at the supermarket (usually on a situational topic). But these events are rare - it relies on chance (and that the woman is hot, which she usually isn't - I do it just to hone my random conversation skills).

I'd like to be able to be direct with some cuties I see walking around all the time (day game), but I'm having difficultly thinking of what to say, especially as most women seem to be walking quite fast / have somewhere to be (london is a busy place).

I'd like to be direct as I can't stand the whole "do you know where a good coffee shop is" overused line, when there are 4 coffee shops on the street we are on lol. Can you point me to a good direct opener to use on random women in a busy daytime setting? Confidence is no longer a problem, I'm now purely stuck on the wording of my approach.

Thanks Janky, you are the man!

[janky]

Originally Posted by StevenNevets

Isn't this concept different when it comes to your school/neighborhood as what you do could degrade your reputation?

No. What are people going to do? "OH thats the guy who hits on girls and fails!!!"
So you go "Ok, at least I'm not too pussy to try.. let's see you hit on ____, go for it.. I dare you!"

and they pussy out, and you go "Thats what I thought.."



Don't worry so much about "reputation". Live your life for you, not to impress those in your social circles

[ImBoutMyBusines]

Originally Posted by janky

No. What are people going to do? "OH thats the guy who hits on girls and fails!!!"
So you go "Ok, at least I'm not too pussy to try.. let's see you hit on ____, go for it.. I dare you!"

and they pussy out, and you go "Thats what I thought.."



Don't worry so much about "reputation". Live your life for you, not to impress those in your social circles

This is what always gets me. The chance of being rejected IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, if I get rejected I wouldn't mind if it was like in a backroom where no one saw. I don't mind rejection really just not in a quiet ass classroom where I'm the only one talking.

[kingtego]

Originally Posted by kingtego

Alright guys, opinions on my actions:

Cliffs:

Me and chick plan to go to Maroon 5 concert together.

She says she can't go because she has studying and other ****, but I can come over that night at 10 pm.

She texts me at like 9 saying her friends made her go to Maroon 5, she won't be home at 10.

I act indifferent, she asks me to come back a little later, I don't feel like dealing with it, so I just say I'll talk to her some other time, I'm going partying.


I stand by my decision, but what of it brahs.


The way I see it, she bull****ted on me twice, and I am showing her that I am not another orbiter that is going to supplicate to her plans. I am on my own ****.

Update on this.

The chick texted me a few times apologizing and then asking me how my night was and that I should have gone over. I know she wants it, hopefully this makes her realize that I am no pushover.

[OtownTodd]

Originally Posted by janky

Yep, and thankfully for some people they never lose sight of that common sense. Unfortunately, some of us are lacking basic social skills, and paranoid and very self-conscious. I used to be, and just wanna share how I overcame it and got TONS of female attention.

I'll keep updating stuff.



LOL.
Me too. but it's network bro, you don't have to fuck them!! Just talk to them. If you can talk to a buncha chubby 5s you can talk to a cute in-shape 6 with no prob.
It's all about starting small and gettin your feet wet.

plus big girls DO have cute friends...

Made friends with big girl in college, ended up getting ass from 3 of her smaller friends as I made my way through college

[steel-tek]

so how do you go about 'networking' or meeting more girls thru a girl who is already your friend. Is it as simple as askin her to come somewhere with you, and tell her to bring some of her freinds along, or is there more to it?

[bigboy18]

So I need advice.

I've met this girl twice...both at bday parties. (No drinking, smoking, etc) just good church people. Anyways, first time I met her (a week ago)...I was introduced by my friend. And nothing much happened.

Today, I met up with her at another bday party.. I saw her again, but all I could say was Hi and talked to other people. She asked my friend (The one who introduced me to her) if she was getting hooked up with me. If she's asking that, what does it mean? Also, she probably thinks im weird...and awkward due to the fact that I couldnt come up with a convo on both occassions.

So now, my plan is to meet her for the third time and actually talk to her...She seems quiet and unapproachable....but I just lack confidence. Do I still have a chance or does she view me as this shy kid...

I don't know what to do. I already messaged her on facebook and had a short convo there..HELP ME

I feel so awkward now. She's never had a boyfriend.... and my last relationship was 3 years ago...and Im socially retarded.

[calo_muscle]

Originally Posted by bigboy18

So I need advice.

I've met this girl twice...both at bday parties. (No drinking, smoking, etc) just good church people. Anyways, first time I met her (a week ago)...I was introduced by my friend. And nothing much happened.

Today, I met up with her at another bday party.. I saw her again, but all I could say was Hi and talked to other people. She asked my friend (The one who introduced me to her) if she was getting hooked up with me. If she's asking that, what does it mean? Also, she probably thinks im weird...and awkward due to the fact that I couldnt come up with a convo on both occassions.

So now, my plan is to meet her for the third time and actually talk to her...She seems quiet and unapproachable....but I just lack confidence. Do I still have a chance or does she view me as this shy kid...

I don't know what to do. I already messaged her on facebook and had a short convo there..HELP ME

I feel so awkward now. She's never had a boyfriend.... and my last relationship was 3 years ago...and Im socially retarded.

ditch the fb/internet chatting if you're actually meeting her in real life. dude you gotta nail the face to face time, act like shes going to be your future mrs like that sh*t it just going to happen no matter what, seriously. thats the kind of thoughts you have to run through your mind instead of omg theres a hot girl i dunno what to say and i am 12, etc

[N4th4n]

Originally Posted by kingtego

Update on this.

The chick texted me a few times apologizing and then asking me how my night was and that I should have gone over. I know she wants it, hopefully this makes her realize that I am no pushover.

Approach with caution.

[Armando777]

Originally Posted by ImBoutMyBusines

This is what always gets me. The chance of being rejected IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, if I get rejected I wouldn't mind if it was like in a backroom where no one saw. I don't mind rejection really just not in a quiet ass classroom where I'm the only one talking.

Yeah of course there are a lot of possibilities of what can happen and not necessarily just a rejection. Maybe like she can throw a drink on your face at the bar, lol. Anything can happen. You kinda have to be selfish and think about yourself and your goals, after all that all that matters.

[janky]

Originally Posted by calo_muscle

Shes always wearing her bloody headphones tho! how does one deal with this?

Well when you go up to talk to her I'm pretty sure she'll automatically take them out just to not be rude

Originally Posted by r1pp3d

My friend and his gf recently broke up on Halloween. they were going out for a good portion of last year and they both lost their v-cards to each other. they broke up during the summer i think and hated each other so much but like a week ago they got back together and broke up again on Halloween because on Friday (night before Halloween) she was drunk and was grinding/flirting with a guy all night so they broke up on Halloween after he found out. she got twisted again and hooked up with another guy on Saturday. she was ****faced. i think he still has feelings for her because he said he cried after he found out she almost cheated. the thing is that before they got back together me and her were getting close and i could tell she liked me. i was about to make a move but they got back together. and now they aren't going out and me and her are flirting up a storm again. in 1 of my class she was drawing and it was my initials... so i know she def. likes me. time for Q's

1)i know that i shouldn't do anything with her but should i wait until he is fully over her and maybe then do something with her?
2) should i just stop talking to her or something?

No matter what your friend SAYS, this is going to fck with him hardcore. It's not bad enough that the chick he "loved" almost cheated and they broke up, but now shes trying to bang his best friend!?
thats fcked bro.
Imagine how you would feel if the situation was reversed.

Hooking up with this chick will ultimately lead to you losing a friend, I guarantee it.

This is one of the rare situations where I'd say look into some other options. there's too many girls available to lose a friend over ONE.

Originally Posted by kingtego

Alright guys, opinions on my actions:

Cliffs:

Me and chick plan to go to Maroon 5 concert together.

She says she can't go because she has studying and other ****, but I can come over that night at 10 pm.

She texts me at like 9 saying her friends made her go to Maroon 5, she won't be home at 10.

I act indifferent, she asks me to come back a little later, I don't feel like dealing with it, so I just say I'll talk to her some other time, I'm going partying.


I stand by my decision, but what of it brahs.


The way I see it, she bull****ted on me twice, and I am showing her that I am not another orbiter that is going to supplicate to her plans. I am on my own ****.

wtfever.. dont play this bitch's game. She made plans with you, weasled out, then went with someone else??
Fck that. I'd consider her cut off right then and there - unless she was begging to come over and give me a make-up BJ or hook me up with hot friends.

you're doing the right thing bro.

Originally Posted by Hella Toof

Man I think I figured out my biggest problem with girls. I just need to be the man, I find my self wanting them to do all the work and call me and ask me to go do so and such. I need to be the man and tell them we are going to do this on this day. This has screwed me countless times and I didn't put it together, I need to do some more reflecting.

Also i have another question, if I pick some girl up at a bar I cant take her to my house(still live at home) and I usually walk to bars(they are right in town). Should I say "hey lets go back to your place and make out" or suggest watching a movie at their house or something? tips/experiences? I'd hate to settle for a number due to the first thing I posted but maybe it would be a chance to get over it.

Sorry to ramble

/post

Edit: Just got back from the bar, the cute girl that tried talking to me is apparently a bar tender and she is 33, I talked to her a little but she was working and it was pretty busy so I just got her name and age. Do women that age generally go for guys who are 21? I mean I am a ****ing machine but I look young for my age... Either way If I see her when she isn't working I'm going to try for it. If you have tips for getting older women let me know.(also the bar tender I posted about before who wanted me before her boyfriend showed up was 33, any tips for getting older women/bartenders?)(I need to spread before i can rep again)

I hope the edit is somewhat coherent, I'm pretty drunk right now, let me know fi you need clarifiction.

Yeah, you can't wait for girls to make the moves, thats ass backwards. Yea, you can pull a 33 yr old bartender... why not? Older women love the attention from young guys. It makes them feel young and wanted again!!

Just remember, they get PAID to be nice to you, so until you have a number or tenative plans for after they get off work, I wouldn't read too much into it

Originally Posted by bigboy18

So what are your thoughts on talking to girls through facebook?

Is it weak? I honestly just started using it again...messaging random girls, girls that i know, girls that i just met..etc

Thing is, I just use "Hello! how are you?" line...

I feel like a creep using this thing lol..but whatever

The line is weak. FB isn't. Anything where you can pull is good man, it doesn't matter if it's effin CRAIGSLIST lol.. just be careful and don't get attached to online sluuzz.

You def need to come up with something more situational and funny to say. Say something different to EACH and EVERY girl. Don't use "lines".

Originally Posted by Canuck5056

So tonight I went out to the bar for the first time in a while...been on a vicious cold streak for a long time...anyway girl I work with is out, I end up dancing with her friend for ~2 hours on and off, and make out with her on the floor for a large part of it, then get driven home by my work friend with her in the back and get nothing at the end...uhhh...

I got her number but not sure how I should handle this. Suggestions?

Next time make any and every excuse to go back to her place or bring her to yours

Just keep it casual, don't blow her up daily... see if you can make plans to go out again.

Remember that old sales analogy; "A.B.C." ?? Always Be Closing...?

[janky]

Originally Posted by ranDOMED

its been a while since Ive asked for advice but this one has me stumped. so my gf of 1.5 months wouldnt let me go down today. I dont go down often but she has never denied before. shes been acting a lil off lately so I was gonna go down and check visually and smell to see if something was up. cuz i didnt **** her for 2 days. anyway Im trying to go down and shes like nooo you cant do that blah blah. im like why the **** not you never said no before. she just keeps sayin no.
then later shes like you shouldnt be questening me when I say no. I was like bish, you have never said no to that before of course Im gonna be like wtf?


so anyone got a past exp with this sit? was I in the wrong?

I'd be concerned too. No, you didn't do anything wrong, and it's really bitchy of her to freak out on you like that. If she's never had a problem with something and all of a sudden does, you have every right to ask why. I guarantee if you did it daily and one day just said "Nah, I can't today.." she'd freak out asking you why a million times and she would NOT drop it, so fck that..

Second of all, the combination of not doing anything in 2 days + her being so bitchy about it afterwards would raise a HUGE red flag for me. A lot of times girls do this when they're hookin up with someone else.. I'm not saying that's 100% the case, so don't go blowing up on her - just don't be naive either. pay attention to whats going on and keep your eye out for more red flags.

She could just be fishy and embarassed about it or something, so I wouldn't necessarily freak out on her yet... but proceed w caution bro.

Originally Posted by RickStaaa

at the most twice a week....hung out with her tuesday night and spent the night fri lolz no poon becuz i was suppose to cook her dinner and make desert i did neither so as "punishment" all i got was kiss i lol'd later in the night i found out she really liked a hand around her neck ( IT REALLY got her going the 1st time)

either way guys looks like she's a bit chubbier then i thought do not want. I mean i really just don't take her seriously i have 0 feelings for her..... I'm done with going to her place and gettin nothin its retarded she so fuking old school and believes in life long love...probably why she wants me to cook for her....

So what now brahs whats the "nicest" way of withdrawing or is responding very little the standard way

Well, you can either man up and just tell her you're not wasting your time on her anymore, or you can just stop responding to her texts and what not...
If you REALLY want nothing to do w her and realize it's a waste of time I'd just tell her "look, I'm not trying to marry you, if thats what you're lookin for then don't waste either of our time.. I'm scared to even hook up with you now cause of how much you talk about all this lovey-dovey crap.." etc.

Originally Posted by Agentdark45

Following on from this post,

How then would one go about opening one of these women without communicating interest?

I mean, if you give them attention they don't want it / will reject you. But at the same time, if you don't open, then they won't recognise you exist. Doesn't opening inherantly mean that she has something that you want (sex), thus her value is automatically higher than yours?

Catch 22 situation is catch 22...

Question 2:

I've taken on board your last advice and I'm striking up random conversations with women in static situations i.e if we're waiting for a lift, in a line at the supermarket (usually on a situational topic). But these events are rare - it relies on chance (and that the woman is hot, which she usually isn't - I do it just to hone my random conversation skills).

I'd like to be able to be direct with some cuties I see walking around all the time (day game), but I'm having difficultly thinking of what to say, especially as most women seem to be walking quite fast / have somewhere to be (london is a busy place).

I'd like to be direct as I can't stand the whole "do you know where a good coffee shop is" overused line, when there are 4 coffee shops on the street we are on lol. Can you point me to a good direct opener to use on random women in a busy daytime setting? Confidence is no longer a problem, I'm now purely stuck on the wording of my approach.

Thanks Janky, you are the man!

It is a catch 22 if you look at it that way. You don't "try to not show interest" but still hit on them. If you so much as TALK to a girl they assume you want their nuts. lol.. they know they're not stupid

It's not about "showing interest" at all. It's about not being too pussy to talk to them and still being charming and funny instead of a stuttering nerd begging and pleading for a date.
You need to convey the "I'm feelin it, so lets make plans or just let me know you're a stuck up bitch and I'll quit wasting my time" more than the "omg shes hot and im in love so i need to make sure every word out of my mouth is perfection so she'll HAVE to fall for me, and if she doesn't *I* said something wrong and need to search for perfection in my lines!"

That's where most guys go wrong. There is no right and wrong thing to say unless you wanna be as drastic as comparing casanova to a guy stuttering and going "uhm.. you.. uh. oh jeez.. you are really um.. cute and uh.. i think .. uh well, see.. i uh.. well.. on a 1-10.. like, how would you rate me..? like.. would i be uh, ya know, good enough to maybe like go to dinner or something? sometime? maybe?"

I mean obviously yea, you don't wanna do that.. but delivery is key, not so much the content. Like I said, I've asked girls if they wanted to go on a hot date to Arby's. I've asked girls if I could stuff them in the trunk for later. I've asked girls if I could interest them in a massage and a facial.
it doesn't matter WHAT you say, it's your delivery and having fun w the whole thing.

What's the worst that could happen?? She says no? Ok, cool.. so you have thousands of other girls to talk to

Originally Posted by OtownTodd

Made friends with big girl in college, ended up getting ass from 3 of her smaller friends as I made my way through college

It's true..
Big girls help

Originally Posted by steel-tek

so how do you go about 'networking' or meeting more girls thru a girl who is already your friend. Is it as simple as askin her to come somewhere with you, and tell her to bring some of her freinds along, or is there more to it?

Basically that. Just arrange some kinda group event. Next time you and your boys are goin out tell them you got some chicks you can bring along and play "matchmaker". In the process you look like a good guy trying to help out, and you're meeting new girls as well.

Originally Posted by bigboy18

So I need advice.

I've met this girl twice...both at bday parties. (No drinking, smoking, etc) just good church people. Anyways, first time I met her (a week ago)...I was introduced by my friend. And nothing much happened.

Today, I met up with her at another bday party.. I saw her again, but all I could say was Hi and talked to other people. She asked my friend (The one who introduced me to her) if she was getting hooked up with me. If she's asking that, what does it mean? Also, she probably thinks im weird...and awkward due to the fact that I couldnt come up with a convo on both occassions.

So now, my plan is to meet her for the third time and actually talk to her...She seems quiet and unapproachable....but I just lack confidence. Do I still have a chance or does she view me as this shy kid...

I don't know what to do. I already messaged her on facebook and had a short convo there..HELP ME

I feel so awkward now. She's never had a boyfriend.... and my last relationship was 3 years ago...and Im socially retarded.

Well, I would still say go with the last advice you got on the post
Doesn't seem like the situation's changed much...

I know you're nervous, but stop putting so much pressure on yourself. She's just a girl... if things don't work, NOTHING HAPPENS, you just talk to other girls instead

You're digging your grave before you even try bro.. not good!! Not good at all!
You need to just start talking to her, and joking around w her, get her to lighten up a bit.

[Jedan01]

Originally Posted by Agentdark45

Following on from this post,

How then would one go about opening one of these women without communicating interest?

I mean, if you give them attention they don't want it / will reject you. But at the same time, if you don't open, then they won't recognise you exist. Doesn't opening inherantly mean that she has something that you want (sex), thus her value is automatically higher than yours?

Catch 22 situation is catch 22...

Question 2:

I've taken on board your last advice and I'm striking up random conversations with women in static situations i.e if we're waiting for a lift, in a line at the supermarket (usually on a situational topic). But these events are rare - it relies on chance (and that the woman is hot, which she usually isn't - I do it just to hone my random conversation skills).

I'd like to be able to be direct with some cuties I see walking around all the time (day game), but I'm having difficultly thinking of what to say, especially as most women seem to be walking quite fast / have somewhere to be (london is a busy place).

I'd like to be direct as I can't stand the whole "do you know where a good coffee shop is" overused line, when there are 4 coffee shops on the street we are on lol. Can you point me to a good direct opener to use on random women in a busy daytime setting? Confidence is no longer a problem, I'm now purely stuck on the wording of my approach.

Thanks Janky, you are the man!

In response to question two, one opener for "day game" I've read off Sean Newman's (some PUA guy) site is "Hey, I know this is kind of random, but I wanted to tell you I think you're really cute"

I haven't tried it myself, but it's pretty direct but it's also not creepy or obnoxious

[iRun]

only read the topic post
came from the siggy link
why?
because I find it funny that most guys define success as getting a girl
and then what happens?
their life is changed to meet that goal - in other words, they jump through hoops of flaming fire and juggle panties, putting ________ on the pedestal for women.

you may ask why did this guy only read the first post and start mouthing off? I can't be around these kind of topics long, that's why. I'm tired of seeing two men kill each other over a women, cause in the end she's out with the next man as if nothing happened. This is no fairy tale, men lose day by day out on life on a girl, but it never seems to affect her life only the guys. You spend $10000 on clothing to make this one girl like you, sadly according the the laws of nature - this is one girl who won't ever like you, ... but maybe you could search through 10000 reasons and find out why.

As I only read the beginning post, I do agree that talking and being social is a good way to start
BUT PLEASE
DO NOT LOWER YOUR STANDARDS

Guys if you want a "10" (PUA ****) I would rather see you getting rejected everyday from a bunch of those kind of girls than making successes with chicks you would only be seen in public if they wear a bag on their heads. Maybe that isn't a pretty sight, and would probably hurt your mindset big time. But imo experience is the greatest teacher, and how better to improve yourself than moving forward after knowing what NOT to do?
I'm not saying you should reject girls that you wouldn't ****, because that's just being a dickhead. Don't think you can have any girl in the world, for one thing sex should not be the reason you exist, and for another not everyone will ever like you, just to balance out life :P

It's just one thing I want all boys and men alike to rememeber.
Don't sacrifice anything for a women - your standards, your tastes, your mind, your style, your weightlifting plans to be more specific around here, etc. :P

I hate to see boys/men revoke their access to manhood just for one girl.

The sad thing is, a girl can spot such actions and will manipulate you. Friend zone anyone? How about the nice guy disease?

In all that you do, put yourself before a girl/women - change because YOU WANT TO, not because it helps get you "hawt girlz". PLEASE DON'T JUMP THROUGH THE HOOP.



and for this pickup artist crap, omg that **** makes me sick. stop being so damn analytical.
sometimes people just make their lives complicated on purpose with everything.

girls and weightlifting are alike in some ways.

but the one way I wanted to highlight

stfu eat and lift = weightlifting
stfu go up and talk to her = women

IMO the whole pua deal still puts pussy on the pedestal
you guys wear white coats, study chemical formulas and do tons of experimenting and studying just to be with a girl.


remember guys, this is my opinion, don't wrap those panties too tight for one simple man's advice, take it or leave it.

it may have been said before, but that's the good thing imo. the practical knowledge never dies.

[kingtego]

Curious what Janky says about this:

The chick that bull****ted on the concert told me to come over last night. I went over and she introduced me to like 5 female friends and served me a plate of food she cooked, made us coffee, whatever. I just stayed to eat and chat for a little bit cause I was meeting up with some people, so that was it.

Curious what you think as far as continuing this goes. I figure I am going to keep it as a possibility and escalate when we meet up, but if she pulls another stunt like Friday, I am nexting her, which I have no problem doing.

[lunchbox12]

janky, i am confuse

do girls like cocky guys? i thought they did but i guess not.

cliffs;
see a pretty good looking girl eyein me
go sit buy her, make small talk
play beer pong with her. says "youre not cocky like most guys"
i bang her about an hour after meeting her lulz

[janky]

Originally Posted by iRun

only read the topic post
came from the siggy link
why?
because I find it funny that most guys define success as getting a girl
and then what happens?
their life is changed to meet that goal - in other words, they jump through hoops of flaming fire and juggle panties, putting ________ on the pedestal for women.

you may ask why did this guy only read the first post and start mouthing off? I can't be around these kind of topics long, that's why. I'm tired of seeing two men kill each other over a women, cause in the end she's out with the next man as if nothing happened. This is no fairy tale, men lose day by day out on life on a girl, but it never seems to affect her life only the guys. You spend $10000 on clothing to make this one girl like you, sadly according the the laws of nature - this is one girl who won't ever like you, ... but maybe you could search through 10000 reasons and find out why.

As I only read the beginning post, I do agree that talking and being social is a good way to start
BUT PLEASE
DO NOT LOWER YOUR STANDARDS

Guys if you want a "10" (PUA ****) I would rather see you getting rejected everyday from a bunch of those kind of girls than making successes with chicks you would only be seen in public if they wear a bag on their heads. Maybe that isn't a pretty sight, and would probably hurt your mindset big time. But imo experience is the greatest teacher, and how better to improve yourself than moving forward after knowing what NOT to do?
I'm not saying you should reject girls that you wouldn't ****, because that's just being a dickhead. Don't think you can have any girl in the world, for one thing sex should not be the reason you exist, and for another not everyone will ever like you, just to balance out life :P

It's just one thing I want all boys and men alike to rememeber.
Don't sacrifice anything for a women - your standards, your tastes, your mind, your style, your weightlifting plans to be more specific around here, etc. :P

I hate to see boys/men revoke their access to manhood just for one girl.

The sad thing is, a girl can spot such actions and will manipulate you. Friend zone anyone? How about the nice guy disease?

In all that you do, put yourself before a girl/women - change because YOU WANT TO, not because it helps get you "hawt girlz". PLEASE DON'T JUMP THROUGH THE HOOP.



and for this pickup artist crap, omg that **** makes me sick. stop being so damn analytical.
sometimes people just make their lives complicated on purpose with everything.

girls and weightlifting are alike in some ways.

but the one way I wanted to highlight

stfu eat and lift = weightlifting
stfu go up and talk to her = women

IMO the whole pua deal still puts pussy on the pedestal
you guys wear white coats, study chemical formulas and do tons of experimenting and studying just to be with a girl.


remember guys, this is my opinion, don't wrap those panties too tight for one simple man's advice, take it or leave it.

it may have been said before, but that's the good thing imo. the practical knowledge never dies.

Beautiful!! Well said.. I tried to rep but apparently I've used em all up for today.

I agree with you 100% and have made several posts similar to yours both throughout the thread and in the RH.
Women come AFTER your goals and YOU DOING YOU. ALWAYS.

I'm not bashing you at all, in fact I'm glad you posted that.. it definitely needed to be reiterated. The only thing I'd like to point out is that the theme I'm aiming for with the thread is more "Fix yourself and stop being a pussy, live the life you WANT" instead of "PUA DUDE!!! USE CANNED LINES N SHT!"

Originally Posted by kingtego

Curious what Janky says about this:

The chick that bull****ted on the concert told me to come over last night. I went over and she introduced me to like 5 female friends and served me a plate of food she cooked, made us coffee, whatever. I just stayed to eat and chat for a little bit cause I was meeting up with some people, so that was it.

Curious what you think as far as continuing this goes. I figure I am going to keep it as a possibility and escalate when we meet up, but if she pulls another stunt like Friday, I am nexting her, which I have no problem doing.

eh.
I'd still consider her nexted unless she had something I wanted and was willing to fork it over. You met new chicks through her??? That's a great start!!

[Eric-Navy]

Horrible advice as always Janky...