Would this help me go from 10 inch arms to atleast 14.

[mitten]

i also dont see why you guys are telling him to do starting strength, the cool thing about having your own routine is you actually enjoy doing it, so if you dont want to help then i would suggest not posting

[mitten]

Originally Posted by claret_n_blue

Ok, so this is my new revised workout plan:

A - Mondays and Fridays

Close grip bench press - 3x5
Bench press- 3x5
Military Press- 3x5
BB curl- 2x8
Tricep Dips - Failure

B - Wednesdays and Saturdays.
Deadlift- 3x5
Chin-ups- 3x6-8
Squat- 3x5
BB row- 3x5

i would switch your close and reg bench around

[CLK-GTR]

Originally Posted by mitten

i also dont see why you guys are telling him to do starting strength, the cool thing about having your own routine is you actually enjoy doing it, so if you dont want to help then i would suggest not posting

and what if your own routine isnt going to get you anywhere?

[Ravish]

Originally Posted by mitten

i also dont see why you guys are telling him to do starting strength, the cool thing about having your own routine is you actually enjoy doing it, so if you dont want to help then i would suggest not posting

His routine looks very similar to starting strength as it is, so I don't see why he wouldn't enjoy it. If you're a beginner then SS is the best, its not like you are going to be doing the routine forever. After 3-6 months of doing SS its probably best to move on to something slightly advanced or mix it up and create your own routine from there as you will have gained knowledge of the basics.

[tmac4919]

Originally Posted by Dan_S

****, I'm so in for one! Maybe even two...

Does anyone else think that maybe they should've gone with BigGunz instead, though?

Oh, you will need two of them so you can do alternating curls.

[madaozeki]

He just drank the kool-aid and complicated his routine for no apparent reason.

People, HE HAS 10-INCH ARMS. He doesn't need 2 kinds of bench press plus dips in the same workout. That's a great way to go half-assed on all 3 exercises.

Dips are a fantastic exercise.
Bench pressing is a fantastic exercise (if your shoulders are robust enough to handle it)
Close-grip bench is a fantastic exercise (if you're only bringing in your regular grip a couple of inches, rather than doing something stupid like benching with your hands touching or with your forearms angled towards each other as you push up).

But all 3? On the same day? For a complete beginner? Really, it's totally unnecessary and he'd do well to just concentrate on a single compound exercise for months before even considering complicating things...

And add in military press on the same day and you're just going to be spinning your wheels.

[claret_n_blue]

Originally Posted by madaozeki

Dips are a fantastic exercise.
Bench pressing is a fantastic exercise (if your shoulders are robust enough to handle it)
Close-grip bench is a fantastic exercise (if you're only bringing in your regular grip a couple of inches, rather than doing something stupid like benching with your hands touching or with your forearms angled towards each other as you push up).

But all 3? On the same day? For a complete beginner? Really, it's totally unnecessary and he'd do well to just concentrate on a single compound exercise for months before even considering complicating things...

I'm not a complete beginner. I have been lifting, but my workouts with too many isolation exercises - I didn't do any research before I started. I then looked at Sean Nalewanjy and Vince Del-Monte and stuff and saw that its better to do pure compound. My form on close grip is good, same with flat bench. I can't dips at all though, I think its my shoulders that stop me.

Should I therefore focus on dips and military press on one day, and bench presses on the other.

[madaozeki]

Originally Posted by claret_n_blue

I'm not a complete beginner. I have been lifting, but my workouts with too many isolation exercises - I didn't do any research before I started. I then looked at Sean Nalewanjy and Vince Del-Monte and stuff and saw that its better to do pure compound. My form on close grip is good, same with flat bench. I can't dips at all though, I think its my shoulders that stop me.

Should I therefore focus on dips and military press on one day, and bench presses on the other.

If you can't dip because of shoulder issues, and your form on bench and close-grip bench is good, then don't dip.

You're on the right track by sticking to the compound movements. But bench and close-grip bench overlap too much and there's no real point in doing both.

Stick with your original proposed program and you'll be set for a loooong time.

[claret_n_blue]

Originally Posted by madaozeki

If you can't dip because of shoulder issues, and your form on bench and close-grip bench is good, then don't dip.

You're on the right track by sticking to the compound movements. But bench and close-grip bench overlap too much and there's no real point in doing both.

Stick with your original proposed program and you'll be set for a loooong time.

My shoulder issues aren't because I have an injury problem or anything. I'm just not really strong enough to dip. So should I do military press for 2 months (increasing by either 5lbs or 2 reps every week) and then move onto dips?

[Defiant1]

Lots of good info in this thread. *goes back to watching soap operas*

[Defiant1]

Originally Posted by mitten

i also dont see why you guys are telling him to do starting strength, the cool thing about having your own routine is you actually enjoy doing it, so if you dont want to help then i would suggest not posting

Dude, you're wasting your time posting here.

Many people on this site are so f*cking brain-washed with bull**** it's pathetic.

[madaozeki]

Originally Posted by claret_n_blue

My shoulder issues aren't because I have an injury problem or anything. I'm just not really strong enough to dip. So should I do military press for 2 months (increasing by either 5lbs or 2 reps every week) and then move onto dips?

Military press (probably just regular old "overhead press" actually) works your shoulders mainly. Dips work your chest and triceps mainly, so they're really different exercises, without the degree of overlap of, say, bench press and dips.

If you can't dip because of strength issues, that's all the more reason to just pick a bench press and work really really hard on it over the months so you get stronger and bigger. Dips won't be useful for you until you're able to handle your bodyweight for at least 3 reps.

You may never dip, or you may come back to them again someday, but there's no solid timeline. Forget about dips for the time being, in other words, since you can't do them.

Same thing about timeline goes for adding weights/reps. If you can't add weight or reps one week, so be it. That doesn't mean it's time to switch programs. When you hit a plateau, just scale back to 90% and work back up over the next few weeks. If you keep plateauing again and again after scaling back and working back up (say, 3 or 4 times), then you might need to change around your set/rep scheme, but can still keep doing the same exercises.

Again, your original program, exactly as you posted it, will be great for you for a long long time, as long as you keep adding weight slowly over time, and don't get distracted or sidetracked by other things

[claret_n_blue]

Originally Posted by madaozeki

Military press (probably just regular old "overhead press" actually) works your shoulders mainly. Dips work your chest and triceps mainly, so they're really different exercises, without the degree of overlap of, say, bench press and dips.

If you can't dip because of strength issues, that's all the more reason to just pick a bench press and work really really hard on it over the months so you get stronger and bigger. Dips won't be useful for you until you're able to handle your bodyweight for at least 3 reps.

You may never dip, or you may come back to them again someday, but there's no solid timeline. Forget about dips for the time being, in other words, since you can't do them.

Same thing about timeline goes for adding weights/reps. If you can't add weight or reps one week, so be it. That doesn't mean it's time to switch programs. When you hit a plateau, just scale back to 90% and work back up over the next few weeks. If you keep plateauing again and again after scaling back and working back up (say, 3 or 4 times), then you might need to change around your set/rep scheme, but can still keep doing the same exercises.

Again, your original program, exactly as you posted it, will be great for you for a long long time, as long as you keep adding weight slowly over time, and don't get distracted or sidetracked by other things

Great. I thought it was wrong as there was so few exercises.

[Turco]

Pretty sure Ronaldo ain't sporting 14 inch arms.

[madaozeki]

Originally Posted by claret_n_blue

Great. I thought it was wrong as there was so few exercises.

More isn't always better!

[Austin109]

Originally Posted by madaozeki

More isn't always better!

this x 100000000

[claret_n_blue]

Originally Posted by claret_n_blue

A - Mondays and Fridays
Squat- 3x5
Bench press- 3x5
BB row- 3x5
BB curl- 2x8

B - Wednesdays and Saturdays.
Deadlift- 3x5
Military Press- 3x5
Chin-ups- 3x6-8

The problem I have with the original is that there is direct bicep work, but no abs or tricep work. Also, how would I work out my traps, on the deadlift?