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Old 11-06-2009, 06:51 PM   #1
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ITT: Message to all Hardgainers..

Dunno if you guys read this or not..but this is straight up awesome..Gotta Love Tate:

Now remember, we're at Westside Barbell. And this guy wants to go outside to talk so no one else can hear. Think about that for a minute. What the hell is he going to tell me? This must be some serious **** if we have to go outside, I thought.

So we get outside and he starts talking.

"For breakfast you need to eat four of those breakfast sandwiches from McDonalds. I don't care which ones you get, but make sure to get four. Order four hash browns, too. Now grab two packs of mayonnaise and put them on the hash browns and then slip them into the sandwiches. Squish that **** down and eat. That's your breakfast."

At this point I'm thinking this guy is nuts. But he's completely serious.

"For lunch you're gonna eat Chinese food. Now I don't want you eating that crappy stuff. You wanna get the stuff with MSG. None of that non-MSG bull****. I don't care what you eat but you have to sit down and eat for at least 45 minutes straight. You can't let go of the fork. Eat until your eyes swell up and become slits and you start to look like the woman behind the counter."

"For dinner you're gonna order an extra-large pizza with everything on it. Literally everything. If you don't like sardines, don't put 'em on, but anything else that you like you have to load it on there. After you pay the delivery guy, I want you to take the pie to your coffee table, open that ****er up, and grab a bottle of oil. It can be olive oil, canola oil, whatever. Anything but motor oil. And I want you to pour that **** over the pie until half of the bottle is gone. Just soak the **** out of it."

"Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that ****er. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals."

This guy is in a zen-like state when he's talking about this.

"Now you're on the clock," he continues. "After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you're full. Don't listen to that ****. You have to try and eat as much of the pizza as you can before that 20-minute mark. Double up pieces if you have to. I'm telling you now, you're going to get three or four pieces in and you're gonna want to quit. You ****ing can't quit. You have to sit on that couch until every piece is done.

And if you can't finish it, don't you ever come back to me and tell me you can't gain weight. 'Cause I'm gonna tell you that you don't give a **** about getting bigger and you don't care how much you lift!"
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:02 PM   #2
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:05 PM   #3
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doesnt work. im capable of gaining fat if i stuff myself with food like this but i still wont gain strength even on a known program like SS or 5x5. so basically ill turn skinny/fat instead of just plain skinny which is even more depressing.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:07 PM   #4
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:08 PM   #5
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Why can't I be a hardgainer? I want a diet like that
oh you want to be a hardgainer? ok, you want to gain 2 lb's of muscle a year busting your ass? you want to look like youve never been to the gym even thought youve been training for years? no, you dont wanna be a hard gainer, trust me on that.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:09 PM   #7
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Worked good for me, lil bit chubby but its all good. I wasn't THIS extreme either....holy ****balls
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:09 PM   #8
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Why can't I be a hardgainer? I want a diet like that
i hear you brah...i get fat so easily its not even funny...my diet has to be totally dialed in to gain lean muscle mass and not just get fat...feels bad mayne
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Dunno if you guys read this or not..but this is straight up awesome..Gotta Love Tate:

Now remember, we're at Westside Barbell. And this guy wants to go outside to talk so no one else can hear. Think about that for a minute. What the hell is he going to tell me? This must be some serious **** if we have to go outside, I thought.

So we get outside and he starts talking.

"For breakfast you need to eat four of those breakfast sandwiches from McDonalds. I don't care which ones you get, but make sure to get four. Order four hash browns, too. Now grab two packs of mayonnaise and put them on the hash browns and then slip them into the sandwiches. Squish that **** down and eat. That's your breakfast."

At this point I'm thinking this guy is nuts. But he's completely serious.

"For lunch you're gonna eat Chinese food. Now I don't want you eating that crappy stuff. You wanna get the stuff with MSG. None of that non-MSG bull****. I don't care what you eat but you have to sit down and eat for at least 45 minutes straight. You can't let go of the fork. Eat until your eyes swell up and become slits and you start to look like the woman behind the counter."

"For dinner you're gonna order an extra-large pizza with everything on it. Literally everything. If you don't like sardines, don't put 'em on, but anything else that you like you have to load it on there. After you pay the delivery guy, I want you to take the pie to your coffee table, open that ****er up, and grab a bottle of oil. It can be olive oil, canola oil, whatever. Anything but motor oil. And I want you to pour that **** over the pie until half of the bottle is gone. Just soak the **** out of it."

"Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that ****er. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals."

This guy is in a zen-like state when he's talking about this.

"Now you're on the clock," he continues. "After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you're full. Don't listen to that ****. You have to try and eat as much of the pizza as you can before that 20-minute mark. Double up pieces if you have to. I'm telling you now, you're going to get three or four pieces in and you're gonna want to quit. You ****ing can't quit. You have to sit on that couch until every piece is done.

And if you can't finish it, don't you ever come back to me and tell me you can't gain weight. 'Cause I'm gonna tell you that you don't give a **** about getting bigger and you don't care how much you lift!"
stopped reading after this, let me guess chinese for lunch a pizza doused in Olive oil for dinner
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oh you want to be a hardgainer? ok, you want to gain 2 lb's of muscle a year busting your ass? you want to look like youve never been to the gym even thought youve been training for years? no, you dont wanna be a hard gainer, trust me on that.
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in b4 they cant climb buildings


they're gonna get fat as shyt eating all that crap in one sitting


your stomach will be all bloaty and you will get the fat look


you can gain weight lol....fat weight not lean body mass
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in b4 they cant climb buildings


they're gonna get fat as shyt eating all that crap in one sitting


your stomach will be all bloaty and you will get the fat look


you can gain weight lol....fat weight not lean body mass
dirty bulk

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man the fcuk up
lol at manning the fuk up


im fine lifting hard and heavy at the gym.........no problem but no thanks to stuffing my face with food and forcing myself after i am already feeling full haha
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most natural trainers dont look like they train with a shirt on let alone a hard gainer.
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oh you want to be a hardgainer? ok, you want to gain 2 lb's of muscle a year busting your ass? you want to look like youve never been to the gym even thought youve been training for years? no, you dont wanna be a hard gainer, trust me on that.
Agreed.

I've lost count of the amount of times i've complained about being a hard gainer and been told 'oh your so lucky i wish i was in your situation' Which i usually return with 'No you really don't! and pretty much what you said above.
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most natural trainers dont look like they train with a shirt on let alone a hard gainer.
You're preaching to the choir brah, i started at 110lbs. I'm no where near my goals but I don't look anything like the kids who come in once a month to curl in the squat rack and do one set of abs.

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Thats bull****
The problem with hardgainers isnt once in a while massive amounts of food that you cant push through, its the discipline that comes with it when you have to put massive amounts of clean food down your throat for months on end, day after day, meal after meal and see people who are genetically gifted make twice as much progess with less effort in the same time.

Thats where the mind overcomes the procastionation, and not to say that this sport isnt suited for alot of people
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