AConrad00 and Applied Nutriceuticals HGHup - time to sleep grow and shred!

[Fitzwell]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

i think i found my new love... sippin sp250 during class lol and droppin 1g PEA before class

only way to get through MBA accounting... information overload + monotone professor = me wanting to gauge out my eyeballs with a rusty spoon while simultaneously punching myself in the balls and walking on broken glass, barefoot

today's lesson was about payroll liabilities, and we went over 97 slides in 90 minutes lol wut the fuk

Sounds about right, about to take off for a 4 hour federal income tax class. I feel your pain.

[Irish Iron]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

only way to get through MBA accounting... information overload + monotone professor = me wanting to gauge out my eyeballs with a rusty spoon while simultaneously punching myself in the balls and walking on broken glass, barefoot

this was good for the lulz

I'm not sure if anyone knows or not, but are the studies posted anywhere showing the increase in serum(s) levels? Cuz those are some seriously impressive percentage increases, hopefully this shiat is legit

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by Fitzwell

Sounds about right, about to take off for a 4 hour federal income tax class. I feel your pain.

lol ouch

Originally Posted by Irish Iron

this was good for the lulz

I'm not sure if anyone knows or not, but are the studies posted anywhere showing the increase in serum(s) levels? Cuz those are some seriously impressive percentage increases, hopefully this shiat is legit

i read through the huge product write up and dont really remember if the studies were linked or not... product looks wonderful, hopefully it lives up to its claims!

its only day 4, i'm not expecting much until 10-12 days in


off to work upper body! i loveeeeee upper body day, such a show off

[AConrad00]

i seriously just had the MOST sicknasty workout ever

i will put up some pics i snapped... literally i am lean, vascular, and FULL... all while in a caloric defecit.. ahha wow

cant wait to get these pics up!

[Black_Label]

I had to do some messed up full body thing at my Apts gym. cant wait to have time for campus gym...

[AConrad00]

this is what i looked like before lifting even one weight!





here is me after a few sets... washed out but it looked nuts!



sorry bad lighting and pale white skin!

but look at the detail!!!

[Black_Label]

looks...so...serious

[ncangey0513]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

i think i found my new love... sippin sp250 during class lol and droppin 1g PEA before class

only way to get through MBA accounting... information overload + monotone professor = me wanting to gauge out my eyeballs with a rusty spoon while simultaneously punching myself in the balls and walking on broken glass, barefoot

today's lesson was about payroll liabilities, and we went over 97 slides in 90 minutes lol wut the fuk

I pop like 50 Phenadrine before I sit through a 3 hours + Botony lab looking at slides of different fungi and algae. Talk about boring!

Last week I memorized 80 different plants (one plant would be, for instance - Toxicodendron Radicans - Poison Ivy - Simbarouaceae Family - Cashew Family) for a lab practical and I got pink eye so I didn't even get to take the test. Turns out my next lab practical is worth double and I'll never use these again. I'm fawking pissed.

[TheUnderdog]

accounting does suck doesn't it? my bro just took the 2nd CPA exam recently and said he would have preferred to get run over in the parking lot on the way into the test than to take it....he said he didn't finish it in the time allotted so he has to take it again bottom line he said is CPA=gynoz=WTF=sux

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by Black_Label

looks...so...serious

lol i think it looks more constipated then anything...

Originally Posted by ncangey0513

I pop like 50 Phenadrine before I sit through a 3 hours + Botony lab looking at slides of different fungi and algae. Talk about boring!

Last week I memorized 80 different plants (one plant would be, for instance - Toxicodendron Radicans - Poison Ivy - Simbarouaceae Family - Cashew Family) for a lab practical and I got pink eye so I didn't even get to take the test. Turns out my next lab practical is worth double and I'll never use these again. I'm fawking pissed.

sounds bad

Originally Posted by TheUnderdog

accounting does suck doesn't it? my bro just took the 2nd CPA exam recently and said he would have preferred to get run over in the parking lot on the way into the test than to take it....he said he didn't finish it in the time allotted so he has to take it again bottom line he said is CPA=gynoz=WTF=sux

sounds worse

ha --- man does school suck

[Gym God]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

this is what i looked like before lifting even one weight!





here is me after a few sets... washed out but it looked nuts!



sorry bad lighting and pale white skin!

but look at the detail!!!

Nice work Alec!

[AConrad00]

runnin late for work, so i'll update lateeeeeee tonight when i get a chance

good stuff so far, feelin great... oh an di'm eating no carbs this morning, and had none last night, to help the HGHup work better

[Irish Iron]

plannin on postin the train insane vid in this thread?

[Vitruvian]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

really? wow i had no idea

my late night meals are generally lighter on carbs, but my breakfast is always carb-rich, makes a brotha feel good and makes my eggs go down easier. I wonder if I could get an AN rep to drop some info on this?

If carbs do effect the release of GH from the product, how long is long enough for me to have some carbs?

Best results would be attained with no carbs near the dose at all. However, the more important timeframe is the hours before the dose, and the short timeframe after the dose.

It's a tough one to work into a normal person's schedule.... so you just gotta do what you gotta do. Alec's schedule still seems pretty solid.

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by Irish Iron

plannin on postin the train insane vid in this thread?

http://vimeo.com/7472199


***** wut?

Originally Posted by Vitruvian

Best results would be attained with no carbs near the dose at all. However, the more important timeframe is the hours before the dose, and the short timeframe after the dose.

It's a tough one to work into a normal person's schedule.... so you just gotta do what you gotta do. Alec's schedule still seems pretty solid.

okay thanks for clearing it up... my night time workouts are always followed by carbs so that might mess it up a bit, but i'll try not to go to too crazy

girl and i are off to go see RENT the musical, ballin! (altho its about teh homoz) (aka half the peeps in this thrad )

[kincaid82]

hey man pics look great, and glad to see things going well, like i said no need to avoid those carbs just maybe group them a little distance from your doses.

Wait until you get on the SizeOn V2 that along with what i think HGHup will do for you, will be a great combo. Yes i know you mentioned waiting until after the HGHup was done before trying out the Sizeon, but maybe after the first 25+ days you can give your honest opinion of HGHup, and then start the sizeon.

Off to bed, rest up for heavy shoulders int he morning, along with calves. Then off to sam's club to stock up on some goods.

[rms80]

Originally Posted by Irish Iron

this was good for the lulz

I'm not sure if anyone knows or not, but are the studies posted anywhere showing the increase in serum(s) levels? Cuz those are some seriously impressive percentage increases, hopefully this shiat is legit

Sure- I understand your trepidations- here are a few studies, and we should have some HGH-UP tester bloodwork coming back in the next few weeks as well:


Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1979 Jun;10(6):649-54.
Human growth hormone (hGH) stimulation tests: the sequential exercise and L-dopa procedure.
Liberman B, Cesar FP, Wajchenberg BL.
Forty-eight normal volunteers, thirteen subjects with short stature without apparent cause and thirty-one patients with delayed growth clinically highly suggestive of growth hormone deficiency (GHD), with chronological ages of 11.4 +/- 0.4 years (mean +/- SEM), 14.0 +/- 0.7 years and 12.8 +/- 0.8 years; height age of 11.0 +/- 0.4 years, 8.9 +/- 0.7 years and 6.3 +/- 0.4 years and bone age of 10.7 +/- 0.7 years, 9.9 +/- 0.8 years and 7.5 +/- 0.7 years respectively, were tested with provocative tests of human growth hormone (hGH) release-insulin-induced hypoglycaemia, arginine infusion, L-DOPA, exercise and sequential exercise and L-DOPA--in order to identify growth hormone deficiency. In the 'normal' subjects (control plus short stature) the sequential exercise and L-DOPA test induced the greatest peak and integrated secretion rates of plasma hGH (16.5 +- 1.2 ng/ml and 679 +/- 70 ng/ml/120 min respectively) when compared to other tests. This combined stumulus was the only one to which all 'normal' subjects responded: a similar degree of responsiveness has not been earlier described for other hGH-stimuli. The responses observed with all stimuli were significantly lower (P less than 0.001) in GHD group compared to the 'normal subjects'. Emphasis was given to the sequential exercise and L-DOPA test as an innocuous, sensitive and simplified procedure in the evaluation of children with growth retardation.

Ann Pediatr (Paris). 1993 Sep;40(7):391-5.
[Statistic study of 5,473 somatotropin secretion stimulation pharmacologic tests (n=9). Proposed weighting coefficient]
[Article in French]
Rochiccioli P, Enjaume C, Tauber MT, Pienkowski C, Oliver I.
Service de Pédiatrie, CHU Purpan, Toulouse.
A total of 5,473 pharmacological provocative growth hormone release tests were carried out in 3,143 children. Mean age was 9 years 9 months (range 3-16 years) and mean bone age was 7 years 6 months (range 2-14 years). Tests were of 9 different types: 1) arginine (n = 625); 2) clonidine (n = 339); 3) insulin (n = 198); 4) ornithine (n = 162); 5) insulin + arginine (n = 203); 6) clonidine + betaxolol (n = 2,003); 7) L-dopa (n = 685); 8) glucagon = propranolol (n = 443); 9) glucagon + betaxolol (n = 815). All growth hormone determinations were performed using the same radioimmunoassay. Distribution of values obtained with each test was gausso-logarithmic. Mean peak levels with their 95% confidence limit were as follows: 1) 10.2 and 0.45; 2) 11.5 and 0.7; 3) 11.8 and 0.8; 4) 14.2 and 1.2; 5) 14.3 and 0.9; 6) 15.7 and 1.1; 7) 19.8 and 2.1; 8) 20.8 and 2.3; 9) 21.0 and 2.5. These data indicate low specificity, with up to two-fold differences in mean peak levels from one test to another; proportions of peaks under 10 ng/ml ranged from 29% to 69%. Thus, the rate of patients diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency may vary substantially according to the test used. To reduce these discrepancies, we suggest adjustment of test results using a weighting coefficient of 1) 1.9; 2) 1.48; 3) 1.4; 4) 1.16; 5) 1.06; 6) 1.01; 7) 0.73; 8) 0.69; 9) 0.66.


Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1988 May;28(5):551-8.
Growth hormone (GH) responses to arginine and L-dopa alone and after GHRH pretreatment.
Page MD, Dieguez C, Valcavi R, Edwards C, Hall R, Scanlon MF.
Department of Medicine, University of Wales College of Medicine, Health Park, Cardiff, UK.
In order to investigate the mechanisms by which arginine and L-dopa cause GH release in humans we measured the GH response to GHRH 1-44 (200 micrograms i.v.), arginine (30 g i.v. over 30 min) and L-dopa (500 mg orally) administered alone and 120 minutes following pretreatment with GHRH 1-44 (200 micrograms i.v.) in normal male subjects. Prior GHRH administration abolished the GH response to subsequent GHRH. Arginine infusion induced a rise in GH levels maximal at 45 min. Following GHRH pretreatment the GH response to arginine was enhanced, with peak values of 19.3 +/- 6.4 vs 53.3 +/- 16.5 mU/l (mean +/- SEM) respectively (P less than 0.02). L-dopa alone induced a rise in GH levels maximal at 90 min (17.6 +/- 7.4 ng/l, mean +/- SEM) but this rise was abolished by pretreatment with GHRH.

Nippon Naibunpi Gakkai Zasshi. 1987 Aug 20;63(8):934-46.
[Effect of oral administration of L-dopa on the plasma levels of growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) in normal subjects and patients with various endocrine and metabolic diseases]
[Article in Japanese]
Mitsuhashi S, Yamasaki R, Miyazaki S, Saito H, Saito S.
First Department of Internal Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Tokushima, Japan.
The responses of plasma growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) and growth hormone (GH) to oral administration of L-dopa were studied in normal subjects and patients with various endocrine and metabolic diseases to clarify the pathophysiological role of the GHRH-GH axis. In normal subjects, the plasma GHRH concentration was increased from the basal value of 9.8 +/- 1.4 pg/ml (mean +/- SE) to 34.8 +/- 3.1 pg/ml at 30 approximately 90 min after oral administration of 500 mg L-dopa, followed by a rise of GH release (plasma GH level from less than 1 ng/ml to 21.7 +/- 4.7 ng/ml) in most cases, indicating that L-dopa stimulates GH secretion via hypothalamic GHRH. On L-dopa administration, no apparent increases in both plasma GHRH and GH concentrations were observed in patients with hypothalamic hypopituitarism, whereas GHRH administration induced almost normal GH response. In patients with acromegaly, the plasma levels of GHRH remained stationary after the L-dopa administration and did not correlate with plasma GH levels. In subjects with simple obesity, the responses of plasma GHRH (peak 13.2 +/- 1.2 pg/ml) and GH (peak 4.3 +/- 1.7 ng/ml) to L-dopa were significantly lower than those in normal subjects (p less than 0.01). In patients with primary hypothyroidism, peak levels of plasma GHRH (12.6 +/- 1.3 pg/ml) and GH (2.4 +/- 0.6 ng/ml) were significantly lower than those in normal subjects (p less than 0.01). In patients with non-insulin dependent diabetes mellitus (NIDDM), the responses of GHRH and GH were divided into 2 groups; in the responder the peak values of GHRH and GH were 19.4 +/- 8.6 pg/ml and 12.2 +/- 1.4 ng/ml and in the low or non responder 14.7 +/- 1.5 pg/ml and 2.0 +/- 0.6 ng/ml, respectively. Between both groups, there was a significant difference in the values of fasting blood sugar and HbA1 and mean suffering period. These findings suggest that GH secretion evoked by the L-dopa administration is induced by GHRH released from the hypothalamus, and impairment of GH secretion associated with simple obesity, primary hypothyroidism, or NIDDM may be in part attributed to insufficiency of GHRH release from the hypothalamus, and indicate that L-dopa test is clinically useful for evaluating the ability of intrinsic GHRH release in such diseased states.

[8footballQB]

been following along in the OBF and just watched you train insane video, it was awesome except the music got deleted for copyright your gym looks pretty nice with the huge pool and water slide.

anyways, about how many calories is your diet right now? i didnt see it anywhere in here?

[velocityrob]

Subbed and caught up:
Strong cheesecake temptations.
Ba witda-Alec.
Jealous of the pool facilities.

[namean]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

yeah the bottle i have isnt labeled, but the capsules are very sleek looking

Im confused. Arent you a Gaspari Rep? :P

[Vitruvian]

Originally Posted by namean

Im confused. Arent you a Gaspari Rep? :P

Alec, If I may? I'll field this one.
































Yes, he is.

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by kincaid82

hey man pics look great, and glad to see things going well, like i said no need to avoid those carbs just maybe group them a little distance from your doses.

Wait until you get on the SizeOn V2 that along with what i think HGHup will do for you, will be a great combo. Yes i know you mentioned waiting until after the HGHup was done before trying out the Sizeon, but maybe after the first 25+ days you can give your honest opinion of HGHup, and then start the sizeon.

Off to bed, rest up for heavy shoulders int he morning, along with calves. Then off to sam's club to stock up on some goods.

yeah i'm gonna try sizeon twice this week so that i'll be able ot taste it... then at the end of the log i'll really be able to go balls out with my sizeon!

thanks for taggin along and the insight

Originally Posted by rms80

Sure- I understand your trepidations- here are a few studies, and we should have some HGH-UP tester bloodwork coming back in the next few weeks as well:


Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1979 Jun;10(6):649-54.
Human growth hormone (hGH) stimulation tests: the sequential exercise and L-dopa procedure.
Liberman B, Cesar FP, Wajchenberg BL.
Forty-eight normal volunteers, thirteen subjects with short stature without apparent cause and thirty-one patients with delayed growth clinically highly suggestive of growth hormone deficiency (GHD), with chronological ages of 11.4 +/- 0.4 years (mean +/- SEM), 14.0 +/- 0.7 years and 12.8 +/- 0.8 years; height age of 11.0 +/- 0.4 years, 8.9 +/- 0.7 years and 6.3 +/- 0.4 years and bone age of 10.7 +/- 0.7 years, 9.9 +/- 0.8 years and 7.5 +/- 0.7 years respectively, were tested with provocative tests of human growth hormone (hGH) release-insulin-induced hypoglycaemia, arginine infusion, L-DOPA, exercise and sequential exercise and L-DOPA--in order to identify growth hormone deficiency. In the 'normal' subjects (control plus short stature) the sequential exercise and L-DOPA test induced the greatest peak and integrated secretion rates of plasma hGH (16.5 +- 1.2 ng/ml and 679 +/- 70 ng/ml/120 min respectively) when compared to other tests. This combined stumulus was the only one to which all 'normal' subjects responded: a similar degree of responsiveness has not been earlier described for other hGH-stimuli. The responses observed with all stimuli were significantly lower (P less than 0.001) in GHD group compared to the 'normal subjects'. Emphasis was given to the sequential exercise and L-DOPA test as an innocuous, sensitive and simplified procedure in the evaluation of children with growth retardation.

Ann Pediatr (Paris). 1993 Sep;40(7):391-5.
[Statistic study of 5,473 somatotropin secretion stimulation pharmacologic tests (n=9). Proposed weighting coefficient]
[Article in French]
Rochiccioli P, Enjaume C, Tauber MT, Pienkowski C, Oliver I.
Service de P?diatrie, CHU Purpan, Toulouse.
A total of 5,473 pharmacological provocative growth hormone release tests were carried out in 3,143 children. Mean age was 9 years 9 months (range 3-16 years) and mean bone age was 7 years 6 months (range 2-14 years). Tests were of 9 different types: 1) arginine (n = 625); 2) clonidine (n = 339); 3) insulin (n = 198); 4) ornithine (n = 162); 5) insulin + arginine (n = 203); 6) clonidine + betaxolol (n = 2,003); 7) L-dopa (n = 685); 8) glucagon = propranolol (n = 443); 9) glucagon + betaxolol (n = 815). All growth hormone determinations were performed using the same radioimmunoassay. Distribution of values obtained with each test was gausso-logarithmic. Mean peak levels with their 95% confidence limit were as follows: 1) 10.2 and 0.45; 2) 11.5 and 0.7; 3) 11.8 and 0.8; 4) 14.2 and 1.2; 5) 14.3 and 0.9; 6) 15.7 and 1.1; 7) 19.8 and 2.1; 8) 20.8 and 2.3; 9) 21.0 and 2.5. These data indicate low specificity, with up to two-fold differences in mean peak levels from one test to another; proportions of peaks under 10 ng/ml ranged from 29% to 69%. Thus, the rate of patients diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency may vary substantially according to the test used. To reduce these discrepancies, we suggest adjustment of test results using a weighting coefficient of 1) 1.9; 2) 1.48; 3) 1.4; 4) 1.16; 5) 1.06; 6) 1.01; 7) 0.73; 8) 0.69; 9) 0.66.


Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1988 May;28(5):551-8.
Growth hormone (GH) responses to arginine and L-dopa alone and after GHRH pretreatment.
Page MD, Dieguez C, Valcavi R, Edwards C, Hall R, Scanlon MF.
Department of Medicine, University of Wales College of Medicine, Health Park, Cardiff, UK.
In order to investigate the mechanisms by which arginine and L-dopa cause GH release in humans we measured the GH response to GHRH 1-44 (200 micrograms i.v.), arginine (30 g i.v. over 30 min) and L-dopa (500 mg orally) administered alone and 120 minutes following pretreatment with GHRH 1-44 (200 micrograms i.v.) in normal male subjects. Prior GHRH administration abolished the GH response to subsequent GHRH. Arginine infusion induced a rise in GH levels maximal at 45 min. Following GHRH pretreatment the GH response to arginine was enhanced, with peak values of 19.3 +/- 6.4 vs 53.3 +/- 16.5 mU/l (mean +/- SEM) respectively (P less than 0.02). L-dopa alone induced a rise in GH levels maximal at 90 min (17.6 +/- 7.4 ng/l, mean +/- SEM) but this rise was abolished by pretreatment with GHRH.

Nippon Naibunpi Gakkai Zasshi. 1987 Aug 20;63(8):934-46.
[Effect of oral administration of L-dopa on the plasma levels of growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) in normal subjects and patients with various endocrine and metabolic diseases]
[Article in Japanese]
Mitsuhashi S, Yamasaki R, Miyazaki S, Saito H, Saito S.
First Department of Internal Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Tokushima, Japan.
The responses of plasma growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) and growth hormone (GH) to oral administration of L-dopa were studied in normal subjects and patients with various endocrine and metabolic diseases to clarify the pathophysiological role of the GHRH-GH axis. In normal subjects, the plasma GHRH concentration was increased from the basal value of 9.8 +/- 1.4 pg/ml (mean +/- SE) to 34.8 +/- 3.1 pg/ml at 30 approximately 90 min after oral administration of 500 mg L-dopa, followed by a rise of GH release (plasma GH level from less than 1 ng/ml to 21.7 +/- 4.7 ng/ml) in most cases, indicating that L-dopa stimulates GH secretion via hypothalamic GHRH. On L-dopa administration, no apparent increases in both plasma GHRH and GH concentrations were observed in patients with hypothalamic hypopituitarism, whereas GHRH administration induced almost normal GH response. In patients with acromegaly, the plasma levels of GHRH remained stationary after the L-dopa administration and did not correlate with plasma GH levels. In subjects with simple obesity, the responses of plasma GHRH (peak 13.2 +/- 1.2 pg/ml) and GH (peak 4.3 +/- 1.7 ng/ml) to L-dopa were significantly lower than those in normal subjects (p less than 0.01). In patients with primary hypothyroidism, peak levels of plasma GHRH (12.6 +/- 1.3 pg/ml) and GH (2.4 +/- 0.6 ng/ml) were significantly lower than those in normal subjects (p less than 0.01). In patients with non-insulin dependent diabetes mellitus (NIDDM), the responses of GHRH and GH were divided into 2 groups; in the responder the peak values of GHRH and GH were 19.4 +/- 8.6 pg/ml and 12.2 +/- 1.4 ng/ml and in the low or non responder 14.7 +/- 1.5 pg/ml and 2.0 +/- 0.6 ng/ml, respectively. Between both groups, there was a significant difference in the values of fasting blood sugar and HbA1 and mean suffering period. These findings suggest that GH secretion evoked by the L-dopa administration is induced by GHRH released from the hypothalamus, and impairment of GH secretion associated with simple obesity, primary hypothyroidism, or NIDDM may be in part attributed to insufficiency of GHRH release from the hypothalamus, and indicate that L-dopa test is clinically useful for evaluating the ability of intrinsic GHRH release in such diseased states.

lol wut

just kidding, great post.

Do you know what the difference is between a normal 500mg l-dopa before bed dose is against HGHup? Have there been tests with bloodwork?

And of the differences. are they statistically significant? I guess comparing the increase in HGH to a standard HGH injected shot would be a fair comparison?


that might be asking a bit much, sorry

Originally Posted by 8footballQB

been following along in the OBF and just watched you train insane video, it was awesome except the music got deleted for copyright your gym looks pretty nice with the huge pool and water slide.

anyways, about how many calories is your diet right now? i didnt see it anywhere in here?

hey man thanks for taggin along... i reposted/rehosted the video on VIMEO and it plays just fine... the video is a little big and i dont think looks as good as it does on youtube. but just turn on kid rock's bawidtaba as you start the movie and you'll get the effect

diet is ROUGHLY 300g potein, 300g carbs, and 50-60g fat. My diet is lean protein, clean carbs, and fat coming from my meat and eggs. I've dieting with keto before and didnt really like it, and i think i'll be dropping my fat even lower soon to drop some more calories.

At a cut, i'm maintaining and actually slightly increasing my weight... recomp when i want cut, i need to lean out abit more

Originally Posted by velocityrob

Subbed and caught up:
Strong cheesecake temptations.
Ba witda-Alec.
Jealous of the pool facilities.

haha pretty much

glad to see you in here rob! always a good friend to have a long

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by namean

Im confused. Arent you a Gaspari Rep? :P

watchu talkin about, willis?!

yeah i'm a gaspari rep but i've used and supported AN for quite a while --- They really impressed me when I ran THE ONE with SECOND GEAR and have liked RPM in the past. When I was asked to carry out this log, I was excited for two reasons: 1 - I am VERY skeptical of these HGH enhancers, so this was my one and only chance to really give it a go and 2 - If i was to ever take an HGH product, it would be a product from AN as they've shown to be a great company in the past.

What better way to get REAL feedback about one of the most solid HGH products on the market, combining a skeptical, and very realistic, dedicated bodybuilder with a great company who's products are based on science and not just bro-mance

Originally Posted by Vitruvian

Alec, If I may? I'll field this one.
































Yes, he is.

pshhhh thats what i meant to say

[AConrad00]

Day 4-5-6-7

mega update!

Yeah I'm severely lackinng in updates, but thats because i'm so damn busy during the weekends and am hardly on teh computers... this weekend was a special treat because i worked like a dog and didnt come home all weekend! I sleep at my girls house sometimes bc she lives close to work, and it saves me an hour of driving when i'm already pretty beat to begin with.


I will do a day by day update, and then post the sleep/mental focus/feeling/etc at teh very bottom with a week 1 review



Day 4

I dont know why I didnt get a chance to update thursday morning... oh wait now i remember, I was a zombie in my bed after taking my HGHup! I took it when the girl called, and we talked on the phone for 20-30 minutes and BAM i was asleep and gone for the night.

I forgot to set my alarm friday morning, but woke up refreshed, relaxed and ready for a hectic weekend. Somehow, I actually remember my meals from the entire weekend, i am a freak. I 100% admit it



Day 4 Diet:



11:00
3 HGHup

11:30
2 eggs + 10 eggwhites


3:30
1 small banana
6oz skim milk
1 scoop myofusion strawberry (om nom nom nom)


4:30
2 slices whole wheat bread
4oz fat free ham
1 tbsp lite miracle whip

6:00
1 small banana
6oz skim milk
1 scoop myofusion strawberry (om nom nom nom)

6:30-8:30 (accounting)
2 scoops superpump250


WORKOUT 9:00-10:15

10:15
2 scoops myofusion chocolate

11:00
6oz chicken breast + 1 tbsp bbq sauce
2 cups spinach sauteed in 1 tbsp EVOO

12:00am
3 HGHup

Othere Supps:
labrada elasti-joint
3g of vitamin c
800 iu vitamin d3

Diet - perfect!!!!! cut out the carbs from my post workout shake/meal in order to help let the HGHup do its thang


Day 4 Workout

This was a makeshift workout bc i wasnt really sure if i wanted a full body workout or just a push workout... ended up doing a full body and had the most ridiculous pumps/energy/vascularity ever!

warmup - few sets of pull ups and pushups

circuit 1 (8 sets)
- single arm dumbbell bench press
- lat pulldown
- lateral dumbbell raises
- tricep headknockers
- barbell bicep curls

circuit 2 (6 sets)
- bent over dumbbell rows
- pause barbell bench press
- lateral cable raises
- tricep pushdown
- alternating dumbbell bicep curls

most insane pump of my life, the pics from the other day show how dry/vascular and pumped i was! great volume coupled with decent strength (considering my low cals) and lots of sweat and hard work!

Great workout, really happy with it


Day 5 - Friday

Worked the AM shift at work 11:30 -5:15 and was exhausted bc we were busy! packed 3 chicken sandwhiches which kept me going all day long, and really nailed the diet. However, my plans got all messed up twice that night (the play hosted at kent state was sold out, and then we went back to kent state for this ballin black-squirrel bing event that was sold out 3 HOURS BEFORE THE EVENT STARTED) so my meals were thrown off

Ending up going out and having a beer, and then a mixed drink that TRICKED me into accidentally downing 5-6oz of straight vodka lol -- sweet tea vodka + lemon vodka in a big glass and it tasted real good and i assumed it was a mixed drink...ha, well it wasnt, and thank god the girl was with me and able to drive me home.

Kinda pissed bc i hate a) wasiting the calories and b) throwing off my body. I wasnt sick or anything, just dont like that feeling that much.

Anyhoo, no workout, relaxing night with the girl before a busy busy busy saturday work shift




Day 5 Meals



10:00
3 HGHup

10:15
2 eggs + 10 eggwhites


12:00
2 slices whole wheat
4oz bakwed chix breast
1.5 tbsp lite miracle whip (15 cal per tbsp)

2:30
2 slices whole wheat
4oz bakwed chix breast
1.5 tbsp lite miracle whip (15 cal per tbsp)

5:30
2 slices whole wheat
4oz bakwed chix breast
1.5 tbsp lite miracle whip (15 cal per tbsp)
1 banana


8:00
20oz lite beer
6oz vodka fml

11:30 (mommy made us dinner after bad night lol
8oz sirloin steak
1 cup breakfast potatoes + lowcarb ketchup
2 slices pumpkin roll
3 slices grilled eggplant

2:00am
3 HGHup


Not the best at night, but our plans got all messed up! the girl and i ended up having a good night just laughing it off and then chillin at my moms house... but still kinda sucks...



Day 6 (saturday)

today was a long and lazy morning, basically all the girl and i did was chill and sleep haha --- woke up at 10:30 very refreshed, but was drawn out from a long week and real long night (3 hours of driving during that fiasco)... worked 4:30-12:30 and was 100% exhaused and DONE after my shift! We were so damn busy and i made so much money its just stupid.

After my shift, my girl's plans got canceled and i went over her friends house with her for a bit, then her and i came back and went back to bed. Went to bed around 3am, was up at 8:30am for breakfast/work!

Day 6 Meals


10:30
3 HGHup

11:30
1/2 PB&J sandwhich


1:30
3 eggs + 6 eggwhites
sauteed onions/ham/spinach (made this BALLIN omelete)
3 slices whole wheat toast

4:30
2 slices whole wheat
4oz fat free ham
1.5 tbsp mayo
1 slice bologna (needed more cals before work)

5:30-9:00
16oz skim milk
2 scoops myofusion strawberry


11:30
1 cup white rice
2-3 tbsp white cream sauce
6oz miso salmon


2:30am
3 HGHup

Nothing special, super busy at work and felt like poopoo!



Day 7 (Sunday)

today i woke up early to go to the store (i always buy my food when i eat at my girls house, cuz i eat so much lol) and then me and her made a really nice breakfast before work. I had a bunch of carbs since i was going to work, needed some energy fo sho!

Long day at work, another super busy shift, left work to go directly to my girls house for small time and then straight to my parents house for a 'pre-thanksgiving dinner' since my moms twin is up from florida and my whole family is sick and i probably wont happen again. Was a nice dinner, and I ate very well. So proud of myself, not even a smidgen of temptation for me... nice!

Day 7 meals

9:00
3 HGHup

10:00
3 eggs + 4 eggwhites
2 slices wheat toast
1/2 banana
4 large strawberries
8oz fresh squeezed orange juice


12:00-4:00
2 scoops myofusion chocolate
2 scoops cytogainer (no milk so i added extra carbs)

4:30
4 bbq pork ribs (4oz total meat? not much)

7:00
6oz white meat turkey
3oz fatfree gravy with mushrooms
1 1/2 cups cornbread oyester stuffing
1 cup brocolli
1/2 cup steamed carrots

11:45
3 HGHup

I am so damn tired, very long weekend and not as much sleep as I needed for such a hard bunch of work shifts. I cleared over $450 in these three shifts though, very happy with that!

I am pretty allergic to dogs and my parents house had 4 family pets and i'm all stuffed up, throat hurts, etc etc--- i feel like i may be getting sick but hopefully its just a roundhouse kick in the nuts from the tiredness/alelrgies.

Overall, a ridiculously busy weekend where i strayed on track pretty good. Considering I was home for 8 hours the entire weekend, not too bad. Currently working on some homework after I update, then talking to the girl and going to bed. I HOPE HOPE HOPE I wake up feeling better. I think all I need is a good nights rest.


Alright here is a recap for the last few days.


* Sleep - Time and Quality
---- definitely have had a better sleep quality while on HGHup. I dont think I go to sleep faster, but I do think that I sleep more soundly, and I wake up feeling more refreshed. Even while super busy/tired, I wake up feeling pretty good.


* Mental Alertness/Focus
--- good. Thursdays workout was insane. focus during the day (after my Am dose) hasnt been much to talk about, but I dont have class in the morning, and work for me isnt a real 'focused' task.

* Energy
--- no increase in energy to note

* Motivation
--- motivated to KILL it on thursday, not much to mention over the weekend.

* Mood/Aggression
--- fine all weekend, nothing to note.

* Stress
--- stress wasnt too bad this weekend... a lot of work but no school to freak me out. Feeling good.

* Libido
--- above average, although not maca/trib ridic

* Joints
--- my right shoulder blade feels like its grinding bone on bone... not related at all to HGHup, but worth mentioning. Shoulders and hips feel normal. Hips are slightly aggravated from all the walking this weekend.

* Endurance
--- great on my thursday workout... nothign much to mention this weekend since i didnt workout

* Strength
--- normal

* Quality of Training
--- great training session, felt good

* Pump and Vascularity
--- ridiculous, standing vascularity is definitely increased

* Muscle Hardness/Density
--- very good

* Body Composition and Look
---i look good!

* Appetite
--- not much to note since i was very busy and not thinking about it much

* Overall Sense of Feeling
--- feeling good!





Thanks with everyone for putting up with my lack of updates! I'm not proofreading this all the way, i'm pretty tired, but I think its all there

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by AConrad00

this is what i looked like before lifting even one weight!





here is me after a few sets... washed out but it looked nuts!



sorry bad lighting and pale white skin!

but look at the detail!!!

i just found another picture on my phone from thursday... lol look at my forearms!!!! I cant say much from week 1, but my vascularity and pumps were 100% awesome this week!

you cant see it clearly, but there is a real big vein running across my left bicep, ballin






sorry once again for the goofy face and the washed out, pale picture!

[Fitzwell]

I dare any restaurant to make a shake as delicious as 2 scoops Strawberry myofusion, 1/2 cup oats, 10 oz. milk, and a banana. Not even looking at the health aspect, I would grab a strawberry myo shake over anything at DQ or Baskin.

[AConrad00]

man last night was a bad night... chills and fever dreams and cold sweats. lamers.

good thing is though that i called off work this morning, slept in until 1pm, and i feel soooo much better

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by Fitzwell

I dare any restaurant to make a shake as delicious as 2 scoops Strawberry myofusion, 1/2 cup oats, 10 oz. milk, and a banana. Not even looking at the health aspect, I would grab a strawberry myo shake over anything at DQ or Baskin.

om nom nom nom

i've made that shake before quite a few times, its better then most anything

[rms80]

Originally Posted by Vitruvian

Best results would be attained with no carbs near the dose at all. However, the more important timeframe is the hours before the dose, and the short timeframe after the dose.

It's a tough one to work into a normal person's schedule.... so you just gotta do what you gotta do. Alec's schedule still seems pretty solid.

Try this- I posted this in another thread- should help:

"Just came up with some additional dosing schedules based on the half-lives of the different compounds in HGH-Up- you can see if these work better for you....

Huperzine-A has a half-life of about 4 hours, while l-dopa has a half-life of about 90 minutes. You can use this to your advantage with your dosing schedule- for your pre-workout dosage- it can be taken up to 4 hours before the workout between meals, and you can take in an additional meal before the workout. If you time it right you may be able to get two GH surges- one before the pre-workout meal and one during. It would work something like this if you work out at 5 pm:
7 am- breakfast (meal 1)
9 am- another meal (2)
12 pm- lunch (3)
1 pm- dose HGH-Up on what is now a low-insulin state (2-4 capsules)
2:45-3:15 pm- max GH levels will occur due to L-dopa challenge (given 90 minute half-life and 20 minute disintegration time of capsules)
4 pm- eat again
5 pm- train- Huperzine-A levels, which inhibit somatostatin, will be peaking right at this time, so this will maximize GH and T levels during the workout- remember, product boosts testosterone and the number of androgen receptors as well as GH
6:30 pm- eat normal post-workout meal
9 pm- dinner
10:15 pm- take pre-bed dose of HGH-Up (2-3 capsules)
12 am- GH peak that occurs due to L-Dopa challenge
2:15 am- secondary period of increased GH that occurs due to longer half life of Huperzine A and its effects on somatostatin inhibition

This is theoretical- but the product should work quite well in this manner, and you can tailor your eating and training around this with no dietary restrictions. Just take the times given and adjust them to your schedule accordingly......."

[AConrad00]

Originally Posted by rms80

Try this- I posted this in another thread- should help:

"Just came up with some additional dosing schedules based on the half-lives of the different compounds in HGH-Up- you can see if these work better for you....

Huperzine-A has a half-life of about 4 hours, while l-dopa has a half-life of about 90 minutes. You can use this to your advantage with your dosing schedule- for your pre-workout dosage- it can be taken up to 4 hours before the workout between meals, and you can take in an additional meal before the workout. If you time it right you may be able to get two GH surges- one before the pre-workout meal and one during. It would work something like this if you work out at 5 pm:
7 am- breakfast (meal 1)
9 am- another meal (2)
12 pm- lunch (3)
1 pm- dose HGH-Up on what is now a low-insulin state (2-4 capsules)
2:45-3:15 pm- max GH levels will occur due to L-dopa challenge (given 90 minute half-life and 20 minute disintegration time of capsules)
4 pm- eat again
5 pm- train- Huperzine-A levels, which inhibit somatostatin, will be peaking right at this time, so this will maximize GH and T levels during the workout- remember, product boosts testosterone and the number of androgen receptors as well as GH
6:30 pm- eat normal post-workout meal
9 pm- dinner
10:15 pm- take pre-bed dose of HGH-Up (2-3 capsules)
12 am- GH peak that occurs due to L-Dopa challenge
2:15 am- secondary period of increased GH that occurs due to longer half life of Huperzine A and its effects on somatostatin inhibition

This is theoretical- but the product should work quite well in this manner, and you can tailor your eating and training around this with no dietary restrictions. Just take the times given and adjust them to your schedule accordingly......."

i will try this tomorrow!

i will be doin an afternoon training session so should work out well



ohhhh and here is a picture of my dinner saturday night, miso salmon!