I don't know if he'll ever be more than a high mid card talent. Henry can have a feud with Cena or Taker with the whole "can they stop Mark Henry?" like Umaga and Khali did, but that's about it. Big dudes don't make compelling champions. Look at Kane and his 1 day title reign, or Show in his title reign because Austin got hurt. They make great obstacles for the face champion to overcome, but that's about it...
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I don't know if he'll ever be more than a high mid card talent. Henry can have a feud with Cena or Taker with the whole "can they stop Mark Henry?" like Umaga and Khali did, but that's about it. Big dudes don't make compelling champions. Look at Kane and his 1 day title reign, or Show in his title reign because Austin got hurt. They make great obstacles for the face champion to overcome, but that's about it...
I don't know if he'll ever be more than a high mid card talent. Henry can have a feud with Cena or Taker with the whole "can they stop Mark Henry?" like Umaga and Khali did, but that's about it. Big dudes don't make compelling champions. Look at Kane and his 1 day title reign, or Show in his title reign because Austin got hurt. They make great obstacles for the face champion to overcome, but that's about it...
This, Henry is a great worker and all but I dont think hell ever win the World or WWE titles, another ECW, IC or US run maybe but not the big ones, but you never know, Khali won the World Heavyweight championship so....its not impossible
i'd like to see it, but it doesn't tend to happen. like ego said, these big guys are used to put the babyface over but rarely get the chance to shine.
look at vader. one of the best in the world in the mid 90s. he should have been wwf champ, but never quite made it. so ok, he made it close, but was stopped at the last minute by a bratty hbk refusing to job, but he still should have got the strap at a different time. he was the man.
they can't even use big show properly, and he's a walking monster gimmick.
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He isn't currently championship material but I felt he could of been 3-4 months ago when he showed up on RAW and beat Orton.
That was probably his best chance... a wasted oppurtunity. And the crowds really went crazy those few weeks. Then I think he teamed with Hornswoggle and that killed his momentum.
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That was probably his best chance... a wasted oppurtunity. And the crowds really went crazy those few weeks. Then I think he teamed with Hornswoggle and that killed his momentum.
This was a real shame for me. I've been a Mark Henry supporter and wanted him to get a serious push for a long time and I that was the perfect opportunity and they wasted it. He could have been a World Champion right now.
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With the way major titles are thrown around today I wouldn't mind if he had the WWe or World heavyweight title. Not sure how much of a draw he'd be and I wouldn't give him either title for multiple reigns.
I think E-Go's post basically got it right. Just trying to add to the conversation.
"Big guys as champs aren't compelling" E-Go says. That can be true but not for certain. It depends on the big man's skills and some big guys are good champs.
Henry face champ as Auspower said could work short term I guess. Monster heel is what I think would work better. Henry is not close to being as good as Vader but that's beside the point. Henry doesn't have to be as good as Vader.
I don't know if he'll ever be more than a high mid card talent. Henry can have a feud with Cena or Taker with the whole "can they stop Mark Henry?" like Umaga and Khali did, but that's about it. ...
Good points.
The big guys are used merely as fodder for the WWE heavyweight champion/s, because it will sell tickets for pay-per-views. We see this time and time again, when they are booked as "big and unstoppable monsters" especially the newcomers. It follows the same formula: they squash their opponents in under a minute or so; and after a few months of squashing, they are thrown in the title picture. Think of Umaga, Snitsky, Koslov, Henry (WM against the Undertaker), Khali, and even the Big Show. Once they lose their championship match, they are relegated to the mid-card, and that will be the end of their title push.
Looking back on it now all things considered Diesel didn't make that bad of a big man WWF Champion (to me!!!) and had some interesting matches his best ones with highly superior workers who could have a good match with anyone Bret and HBK. Diesel had a pretty good 1 year reign that resulted in the peak year in his entire career. He didn't draw as much sure but this was just a dark down period in pro wrestling history starting with the letdown that was the 95 Royal Rumble. Bret Hart took the title off of him at Survivor Series 95 and was WWF Champion it stayed a down period right, it was just a down time for the wrestling business. However Bret did manage to keep the WWF afloat after the nWo had formed and Nitro was getting hot. But the point is wrestling was just operating through the red at the time so don't know if you can fully credit Diesel for WWF doing bad at the time. While he was champion Bret was feuding with a dentist and a pirate, former NFL players were making wrestlers look inferior and Mabel was becoming the King of the Ring. Other big things that took place at that time. All things considered I thought he carried the company as best he could as Big Daddy Cool and had some interesting moments.
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I think that he COULD be a credible champion, but since he hasn't done much lately, he would need a great US title reign first. Just spend six months as champion completely dominating people, make to look big, get some decent wins. Then a world title run or attempt would look a lot more credible.
Henry has lost a lot of steam since he beat Orton on his Raw debut, but he can get it back if he had a long dominating US title reign.
look at vader. one of the best in the world in the mid 90s. he should have been wwf champ, but never quite made it. so ok, he made it close, but was stopped at the last minute by a bratty hbk refusing to job, but he still should have got the strap at a different time. he was the man.
i have never heard that michaels was booked to job to vader, why would michaels job to sid and not vader??
This was a real shame for me. I've been a Mark Henry supporter and wanted him to get a serious push for a long time and I that was the perfect opportunity and they wasted it. He could have been a World Champion right now.
I feel the same, hes been in the company for years and deserved at title, i was very happy for him when he won the ECW championship, its third place in all of the titles in WWE, and it does count as a world title (since sometimes ECW/WWE/World Champs have triple threat matches) they are somewhat on the same level even though ECW is less in value,
so its not 2 bad for Henry or others deserving of world title reign thats why i like the ECW championship because some ppl like Kane,Chavo,Matt Hardy, Mark Henry and all the others deserving of a world title reign earned one thanks to the ECW championship
and it does count as a world title (since sometimes ECW/WWE/World Champs have triple threat matches) they are somewhat on the same level even though ECW is less in value,
Actually it doesn't. I remember in CM Punk promos/interviews where he was referred to as a 3-time champion and that he first won the title by cashing in Money in the Bank. However, he was ECW champion before that, and should be a 4-time world champion if that was the case.
Plus, I remember CM Punk talking to Matt Hardy about having never been a world champion, and this was after Matt Hardy had won the ECW title too.
Actually it doesn't. I remember in CM Punk promos/interviews where he was referred to as a 3-time champion and that he first won the title by cashing in Money in the Bank. However, he was ECW champion before that, and should be a 4-time world champion if that was the case.
Plus, I remember CM Punk talking to Matt Hardy about having never been a world champion, and this was after Matt Hardy had won the ECW title too.
it may not be THE world heavyweight championship, or the WWE championship so it doesnt rank up ther but it still counts somewhat as a 3rd place Heavyweight Championship, It kinda lost its value but when RVD had it it was regarded more as a high ranking title,
and when Big Show had it he was placed in a triple threat match with King Booker who was world champ and John Cena who was WWE champ, so it must count somewhat since it is the third world championship
and when Matt Hardy had it he had a triple threat match with Jericho as WC and Triple H as WWE champ, so why not the IC or US instead of ECW, because ECW is still a heavyweight title and does count for something, even tho it has lost value after McMahon won it
Looking back on it now all things considered Diesel didn't make that bad of a big man WWF Champion (to me!!!) and had some interesting matches his best ones with highly superior workers who could have a good match with anyone Bret and HBK. Diesel had a pretty good 1 year reign that resulted in the peak year in his entire career. He didn't draw as much sure but this was just a dark down period in pro wrestling history starting with the letdown that was the 95 Royal Rumble. Bret Hart took the title off of him at Survivor Series 95 and was WWF Champion it stayed a down period right, it was just a down time for the wrestling business. However Bret did manage to keep the WWF afloat after the nWo had formed and Nitro was getting hot. But the point is wrestling was just operating through the red at the time so don't know if you can fully credit Diesel for WWF doing bad at the time. While he was champion Bret was feuding with a dentist and a pirate, former NFL players were making wrestlers look inferior and Mabel was becoming the King of the Ring. Other big things that took place at that time. All things considered I thought he carried the company as best he could as Big Daddy Cool and had some interesting moments.
I've read somewhere where they said Nash's wwe title run was a horrible draw
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