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[DavidJr74]

Originally Posted by marq97gsx

What is your job?

Civil Engineer 3e3x1

[deadfingers]

Originally Posted by Boxerz

So I'm in tech school and they recently implemented a new rule that i have mentioned. it was about the ban on energy drinks and any other supplements etc. we haven't actually read or had the rule posted anywhere but we know variations of the rules, pretty much from what the gist of it, anything in pill form, powder form is illegal for tech schoolers. so i got a LOR for having caffeine pills when they raided the SQDRN and had us do urinalysis. i graduate in a week and LOR also stands for Loss of RAP since that's what it leads to. I was highly recommended to do a rebuttle and I was told best to do it asap. I don't know what to say or how to start it off because I've never had to do one. I feel like, if I write one which I am, all it's gonna do is place blame else where(MTLs) etc.

the people who got LORs for it as well all have the same consensus that they focused on energy drinks.

-AFI/MFR/Amendment for this new rule was never posted anywhere in the Squadron.
-Never read to us verbatim or anywhere close to reading it, basically Energy Drinks focused
-Stupid Rule(not gonna put that in)
-caffeine pill is equivalent to coffee, but coffee is not banned.
-we're here to learn and these supplements while used safely, benefit us to stay alert and help us stay focused in class room.

im headed to chow but any ideas will help as i have to get to the library in an hour and write this up within 2 hours.

That's pretty ****ty, definitely write up a rebuttal. I'm not sure why energy drinks have such a high "punishment" for you guys. I heard of a story here that some NPS student took too much caffeine here and I guess he was really sensitive to it and had to be taken to the hospital. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Caffeine pills, really? That's what the Air Force has come to. They give aircrew members "go pills" so they stay awake on flights, yet caffeine pills is a big no no. Someone's got their head up their ass. AETC has gotten increasingly stupider, I'm just glad I'm back as a prior service guy.

[3000RT]

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[BlueFenix13S]

Originally Posted by KieferC

in...officer candidate here

What commissioning source?

Originally Posted by Jim Jitsu

Air Liaison Officer.

Basically, it used to be only open to Officers who were Fighter pilots. They are usually embedded within an Army unit; they are the ones who go in and "paint" the buildings for the F-15s/F-22s, whatever, to be destroyed.

They are opening up an ALO career field to any officer. It is pretty much like TACP from what I understand.

Originally Posted by iccyman001

probably wrong about this but pretty sure any BA will doo....

Like I said I am proably wrong

Originally Posted by xdxaxnx

close..... has to fall under certain categories... like i dont think an Art history major would be accepted... although they would be great for holiday office decoration competitions...

Originally Posted by Jim Jitsu

From what I understand, most degrees will work. Key word being "most." Like someone else said. Can't be a fine arts major and be an officer.

Although, certain jobs require certain degrees. Most likely, they won't make you an Engineer if you have a History degree.

You can have ANY degree and become an officer. I know guys with History, English, Psych, or Art degrees that are pilots and navigators, and guys with Engineering degrees who went into Communications and Intelligence. Commissioning source has some to do with it. If you enter ROTC and get an art degree, it's far different than having an Art degree and trying to apply for OTS. Things like Weather Officers, Engineers, Docs, and lawyers require specific degrees. There are also DESIRED degrees for career fields... example: Comm career field wants IT, CompSci, CompEngineering, or Business degrees, but it is not mandatory to have that degree.

[BlueFenix13S]

Side note..... took my annual today... 93/100..... lost 5 points for my waist. Once the new point system is in place I'll have a 98.

[KieferC]

Originally Posted by bluefenix13s

what commissioning source?

rotc

[BlueFenix13S]

Originally Posted by KieferC

rotc

What university?

[KieferC]

Originally Posted by BlueFenix13S

What university?

embry riddle daytona campus...u POC?

[OpieSalv]

could you apply for rotc if you fcked up in high school? I got my High school diploma just wondering if Id have to go to CC beforehand i think my gpa was anywhere in beetween 1.8-2.5

[KieferC]

Originally Posted by OpieSalv

could you apply for rotc if you fcked up in high school? I got my High school diploma just wondering if Id have to go to CC beforehand i think my gpa was anywhere in beetween 1.8-2.5

doesn't really matter if you have a bad gpa from high school...you have to maintain a 2.0 to stay in ROTC

[Epictetus IV]

what up brahs!? So i chambered today...it was pretty damn awesome... had a lot of fun.. Took our block three test... got another hundred on it... That makes me and one other guy in my class with a 100 average... I wonder what they're gonna do as far as distinguished graduate goes... I hope I get it.hopefully it could help me land an AFSOC slot or maybe the aircraft i want... IDK... But you better believe that I will be keeping a 100 average through my 3 level course... Definitely shooting for DG for that.

Anyways whats up guys? ****in loving life right now... can't wait to start flying holy ****!! I want MC130P's at Mildenhall FOR SURE, if not C-17s... We'll see.

[BlueFenix13S]

Originally Posted by KieferC

embry riddle daytona campus...u POC?

I commissioned in 2008, been on active duty for a little over a year now. I went to the University of Missouri- Rolla, heavy in engineering but I was an Information Systems major.

Originally Posted by OpieSalv

could you apply for rotc if you fcked up in high school? I got my High school diploma just wondering if Id have to go to CC beforehand i think my gpa was anywhere in beetween 1.8-2.5

Originally Posted by KieferC

doesn't really matter if you have a bad gpa from high school...you have to maintain a 2.0 to stay in ROTC

Depends. If you want a scholarship, 1.8-2.5 is too low. However, you can join as a non-scholarship cadet, and provided you maintain a good GPA (3.0 or better), you have a good chance of getting a scholarship your 2nd or 3rd year in. As Kiefer said, minimum is 2.0, but that will close off a lot of competitive jobs for you. Go in and give it your best, keep your grades up, be active in the Corps, and take care of your peers and you will be set.

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by Boxerz

So I'm in tech school and they recently implemented a new rule that i have mentioned. it was about the ban on energy drinks and any other supplements etc. we haven't actually read or had the rule posted anywhere but we know variations of the rules, pretty much from what the gist of it, anything in pill form, powder form is illegal for tech schoolers. so i got a LOR for having caffeine pills when they raided the SQDRN and had us do urinalysis. i graduate in a week and LOR also stands for Loss of RAP since that's what it leads to. I was highly recommended to do a rebuttle and I was told best to do it asap. I don't know what to say or how to start it off because I've never had to do one. I feel like, if I write one which I am, all it's gonna do is place blame else where(MTLs) etc.

the people who got LORs for it as well all have the same consensus that they focused on energy drinks.

-AFI/MFR/Amendment for this new rule was never posted anywhere in the Squadron.
-Never read to us verbatim or anywhere close to reading it, basically Energy Drinks focused
-Stupid Rule(not gonna put that in)
-caffeine pill is equivalent to coffee, but coffee is not banned.
-we're here to learn and these supplements while used safely, benefit us to stay alert and help us stay focused in class room.

im headed to chow but any ideas will help as i have to get to the library in an hour and write this up within 2 hours.

WTF!!!! So no Monsters, or Rockstar energy drinks?!?!? This is crazy, especially when we hand out strong caffeine "go" pills to pilots so they can stay awake on their flights. Wow. At least they didn't ban coffee.

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by DavidJr74

Civil Engineer 3e3x1

Oh snap, structures! Good stuff right there (I'm a 3E171: HVAC). Structures has a nice reenlistment bonus too. Welcome to CE. I'll probably see you in my next deployment since we'd be in the same squadron. Their shops always have a couple of chicks working there. Here at my deployment, there is one structures chick actually. Let me know what base you get once you get your orders, especially if it's Travis AFB.

[deadfingers]

Originally Posted by Epictetus IV

what up brahs!? So i chambered today...it was pretty damn awesome... had a lot of fun.. Took our block three test... got another hundred on it... That makes me and one other guy in my class with a 100 average... I wonder what they're gonna do as far as distinguished graduate goes... I hope I get it.hopefully it could help me land an AFSOC slot or maybe the aircraft i want... IDK... But you better believe that I will be keeping a 100 average through my 3 level course... Definitely shooting for DG for that.

Anyways whats up guys? ****in loving life right now... can't wait to start flying holy ****!! I want MC130P's at Mildenhall FOR SURE, if not C-17s... We'll see.

Heh, well good luck, but I think that's just a dream man. Even in my first job school people spread that rumor that "if you get a 100% average you can pick your assignment" and blah blah. Never heard of it happening, if ever. Good luck, but grades will very rarely prove that you deserve to be on a certain aircraft or assignment. Not sure if the Functional you have is as good as ours, but he asked me what assignments I was interested in and aircraft and I got it. Although my second choice assignment, and my first choice aircraft. Aircrew seems to be a lot better about working with their people and making them happy, but needs of the Air Force first. Good luck none the less, and congrats.

Originally Posted by marq97gsx

WTF!!!! So no Monsters, or Rockstar energy drinks?!?!? This is crazy, especially when we hand out strong caffeine "go" pills to pilots so they can stay awake on their flights. Wow. At least they didn't ban coffee.

lulz I said the same thing. I remember my first tech school, I lived off Rumbas and NoDoz and I wasn't alone. I can't imagine how ****ty my grades would have been if they banned those things for us back then. I had a hard time staying awake while downing 2 nodoz with an energy drink.

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by BlueFenix13S

Side note..... took my annual today... 93/100..... lost 5 points for my waist. Once the new point system is in place I'll have a 98.

I hear you on that one. I scored an 88 on my last PT test, but under the new PT system, I will finally be in the 90s. Sucks for those out of shape skinny folks that got by with their small waists. Now you have to pass every test individually, and that is the fair way to go.

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by deadfingers

lulz I said the same thing. I remember my first tech school, I lived off Rumbas and NoDoz and I wasn't alone. I can't imagine how ****ty my grades would have been if they banned those things for us back then. I had a hard time staying awake while downing 2 nodoz with an energy drink.

I went through tech school in 97, so I think we only had coffee. I do remember falling asleep in class alot. Good times. And that's what's crazy. Here on deployments or wherever, monsters are consumed by everyone. The bx here sells out pretty quick.

[BrotherDan]

Originally Posted by Boxerz

So I'm in tech school and they recently implemented a new rule that i have mentioned. it was about the ban on energy drinks and any other supplements etc. we haven't actually read or had the rule posted anywhere but we know variations of the rules, pretty much from what the gist of it, anything in pill form, powder form is illegal for tech schoolers. so i got a LOR for having caffeine pills when they raided the SQDRN and had us do urinalysis. i graduate in a week and LOR also stands for Loss of RAP since that's what it leads to. I was highly recommended to do a rebuttle and I was told best to do it asap. I don't know what to say or how to start it off because I've never had to do one. I feel like, if I write one which I am, all it's gonna do is place blame else where(MTLs) etc.

the people who got LORs for it as well all have the same consensus that they focused on energy drinks.

-AFI/MFR/Amendment for this new rule was never posted anywhere in the Squadron.
-Never read to us verbatim or anywhere close to reading it, basically Energy Drinks focused
-Stupid Rule(not gonna put that in)
-caffeine pill is equivalent to coffee, but coffee is not banned.
-we're here to learn and these supplements while used safely, benefit us to stay alert and help us stay focused in class room.

im headed to chow but any ideas will help as i have to get to the library in an hour and write this up within 2 hours.

they must present something stateing you cannot have such things, they cant just give you an LOR. There has to be a policy letter somewhere...... ask for the rule stating why you cant take that stuff, so you can become familiar with it and let your friends now.

[beautiizhername]

If they banned coffee I would be so pissed off (srs)

[a_new_g]

Originally Posted by xdxaxnx

They are some of the only people that can yell at pilots on a daily basis....

i do too and i am not an FE

[BrotherDan]

Originally Posted by a_new_g

i do too and i am not an FE

yea but we call that insubordination and out-of-line dirtbag.....

[BrotherDan]

Originally Posted by beautiizhername

If they banned coffee I would be so pissed off (srs)

i dont think i could do my job to the best of my abilities. coffee makes the mission happen

[beautiizhername]

Originally Posted by xdxaxnx

i dont think i could do my job to the best of my abilities. coffee makes the mission happen

ditto...I've even gotten to the point where I drink it black...never thought I'd be doing that.

[burlyman619]

Originally Posted by xdxaxnx

yea but we call that insubordination and out-of-line dirtbag.....

lmao owned

[BrotherDan]

Originally Posted by beautiizhername

ditto...I've even gotten to the point where I drink it black...never thought I'd be doing that.

yeah i usually drink one with cream or milk and a splenda, then the rest of the day is black.

i like my women like i like my coffee, ground up and in the freezer.... wait wut.... (not serious)(in b4 fbi)

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by beautiizhername

If they banned coffee I would be so pissed off (srs)

Checking in for pissed off if they banned my cofeez.

[MAKUA NUI]

In mutha****a's!

[MAKUA NUI]

If they banned monster I'd be livid!!!

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!! !!!!

[marq97gsx]

Originally Posted by beautiizhername

ditto...I've even gotten to the point where I drink it black...never thought I'd be doing that.

Aren't you supposed to be asleep rite nao!?

[MAKUA NUI]

Anybody have any info on:

In the Oct 12th 2009 issue of Air Force times. There's an article about certain career fields going from 6 month to 12 month rotations.

Sauce?