Saudi Arabian court upheld a sentence to behead and then crucify a 22-year-old man

[Apeus]

This thread is ridiculous.

Had this man not been a child rapist/murderer nobody would be talking about how great it is what Saudi Arabia is doing.

If it was a crime nobody got so personally offended and emotional about, everyone would be talking about what a barbaric 3rd world country S.A. is.


I on the other hand will condemn this, as well as any other similar punishments handed out by the S.A. court system.

They are indecent and inhumane in the 21st century.

[psamty]

They are not indecent or inhumane. It is far more inhumane to allow criminals to terrorize innocents than to terminate criminals. Children growing up with no choice but to join gangs or perish is inhumane. Terminating gangbangers and allowing children to grow up in peace is not.

[IdahoViking]

Originally Posted by psamty

And let's not forget that this is the only method that ensures no repeat offenses.

I'm not sure, allegedly death from crucifiction isn't always permanent.

Not sure about the permancy of death due to "beheadings and crucifictions" however.

[makavelli1988]

Originally Posted by 1devil

Wonderful. It's the fault of the US that the Saudis are demented. That makes perfect sense.

Can you please tell me how you managed to draw that conclusion?

if making strawmen arguments was profitable, i would be talking to the new Bill Gates

[AA43560]

Can't believe dumbasses are saying this is "barbaric"



brb finding a way to end someones life in a nice way












Beheading is probably one of the most cost-effective/humane ways to do it.

[makavelli1988]

Originally Posted by Apeus

This thread is ridiculous.

Had this man not been a child rapist/murderer nobody would be talking about how great it is what Saudi Arabia is doing.

If it was a crime nobody got so personally offended and emotional about, everyone would be talking about what a barbaric 3rd world country S.A. is.


I on the other hand will condemn this, as well as any other similar punishments handed out by the S.A. court system.

They are indecent and inhumane in the 21st century.

I dont know in the states, but in the UK we had a piece of **** called Ian Huntley kill 2 little school girls because he was angry with his GF. He has been sentence to serve at least 40 years, but will probably be out in less.

you dont think thats a crime? killing 2 kids with their future ahead of them, and then the man that did it still being able to re enter society after a little vacation, where he has meals, TV and a gym provided for him.

I realise this is all appeal to emotion fallacy lol. but its just my personal view. i would be interested in yours tho

[AA43560]

Originally Posted by makavelli1988

I dont know in the states, but in the UK we had a piece of **** called Ian Huntley kill 2 little school girls because he was angry with his GF. He has been sentence to serve at least 40 years, but will probably be out in less.

you dont think thats a crime? killing 2 kids with their future ahead of them, and then the man that did it still being able to re enter society after a little vacation, where he has meals, TV and a gym provided for him.

I realise this is all appeal to emotion fallacy lol. but its just my personal view. i would be interested in yours tho

Don't even bother, he's one of those idiots that wants to be "nice" and "fair" to criminals. You gotta be careful not to hurt their feelings or give them a boo boo after all.

I lump people like him in the same category as those fatass teenagers that sued mcdonalds for making them fat .

[1devil]

Originally Posted by makavelli1988

Can you please tell me how you managed to draw that conclusion?

if making strawmen arguments was profitable, i would be talking to the new Bill Gates

I drew that conclusion from your statements. You seem even more tense than normal today.

[makavelli1988]

I reply to someone that said the Saudis are trying to avoid international condemnation by saying this man was a pedo, but in reality a homosexual with

Originally Posted by makavelli1988

Amnesty International is actually more pi.ssed. and Saudis Human rights record has never been discussed by anyone that matters, basically the US

and basically saying they dont care about their human rights records since the only people that matter to them, the US, dont care. so they actually have no reason to bother with improving their human rights record just for this particular trial.

From that quote you extrapolated

Originally Posted by 1devil

Wonderful. It's the fault of the US that the Saudis are demented. That makes perfect sense.

are you mad because your actually MindlessWork or something?

lol at you trying to portray me as blaming everything on the US.

[Apeus]

Originally Posted by AA43560

Don't even bother, he's one of those idiots that wants to be "nice" and "fair" to criminals. You gotta be careful not to hurt their feelings or give them a boo boo after all.

I lump people like him in the same category as those fatass teenagers that sued mcdonalds for making them fat .

Strong assumptions.

I'm pro-death penalty.

Just not when someone is being beheaded and crucified.


The point of my post, which everyone ignored in order to personally attack me, was everybody on this forum is constantly calling out S.A. for all the inhumane **** they do.

However, when they do it to a child rapists, it's suddenly not only OK, but a positive thing.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Are they going to crucify him and then behead him, or behead him and then crucify him?

If they're planning on beheading him first, they could just forego the crucifixion and save a little money on the wood.

[TeamDelarosa]

Originally Posted by AA43560

Can't believe dumbasses are saying this is "barbaric"


brb finding a way to end someones life in a nice way




Beheading is probably one of the most cost-effective/humane ways to do it.

You make too much sense. Giving someone the chair and beheading gives us the same result. Whats to say giving someone the chair not barbaric? or putting them in a sell for their whole life not barbaric. Only BIG difference is beheading is cheaper and doesn't cost the tax payer anything. I think moments like this we can take a page out of the Saudi criminal justice. Hardcore crime = Hardcore justice. How can anyone be against this? Say one of the kids were your son, the guy who rapes then kills him goes to jail, gets to make friends reads some books, workout, suck dick, eat.

But seriously how the do you not kill some non-barbaric?

YOU'RE still killing them who gives a ****!?!?!?!? NOTHING MAKES SENSE!!!!!!!!!!


good post btw. (have to give out more reps before I can give some to you again)

[TeamDelarosa]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

Are they going to crucify him and then behead him, or behead him and then crucify him?

If they're planning on beheading him first, they could just forego the crucifixion and save a little money on the wood.

i wouldn't be surprise if it was miss worded.

[psamty]

Originally Posted by TeamDelarosa

You make too much sense. Giving someone the chair and beheading gives us the same result. Whats to say giving someone the chair not barbaric? or putting them in a sell for their whole life not barbaric. Only BIG difference is beheading is cheaper and doesn't cost the tax payer anything. I think moments like this we can take a page out of the Saudi criminal justice. Hardcore crime = Hardcore justice. How can anyone be against this? Say one of the kids were your son, the guy who rapes then kills him goes to jail, gets to make friends red some books, work out, suck dick, eat.

But seriously how the do you not kill some non-barbaric?

YOU'RE still killing them who gives a ****!?!?!?!? NOTHING MAKES SENSE!!!!!!!!!!


good post btw.

Exactly. Most people who are soft on crime don't realize that they are only punishing the innocent. There are communities in America where a kid who tries to just go to school and study hard will be bullied, smacked around and in mortal threat unless he/she joins a gang for protection. By continuously releasing hardened criminals into such communities the authorities produce a self-perpetuating cycle of violence. The only solution in these extreme situation is to terminate the criminal elements, so that the affected communities have a shot at getting themselves out of a rut.

Think about it.

Slavery didn't destroy the black family.

Segregation didn't destroy the black family.

But in just 50 years of progressive policy, the black family has been annihilated.

[TeamDelarosa]

Originally Posted by Apeus

Strong assumptions.

I'm pro-death penalty.

Just not when someone is being beheaded and crucified.


The point of my post, which everyone ignored in order to personally attack me, was everybody on this forum is constantly calling out S.A. for all the inhumane **** they do.

However, when they do it to a child rapists, it's suddenly not only OK, but a positive thing.

Child rapist(s)/killer...and I think I speak for most of human kind when I saw that's ****ed up and the person deserves what he is getting.

**** if it was up to me I'd say torturer him then crucify him then behead him.

[MWarsame]

For the first time, the misc is making more sense than R/P

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120143631

[psamty]

Originally Posted by MWarsame

For the first time, the misc is making more sense than R/P

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120143631

The misc usually makes better sense than the R/P, but they are very bad at explaining their positions or making a cogent argument.

[Skunk]

good job arabia man

anybody that rapes a 3 year old then leaves it in the desert to die is prime material for a beheading and crucifixion.

[NotStandingBy]

Remember the girl that was raped for 2+ hours? Yeah, apply the same punishment to those rapists and I will sleep with the Saudi man. GoodjobSaudiman.

[Thy_Kingdom]

Originally Posted by NotStandingBy

Remember the girl that was raped for 2+ hours? Yeah, apply the same punishment to those rapists and I will sleep with the Saudi man. GoodjobSaudiman.

Wait..what?

[Blackheart]

Originally Posted by GrokTheCube

No issue with extreme punishments for rapists, especially pedophile rapist/murderers...

lol no **** i re-read it to make sure that's what he was then i was like "god.. DAYUUUUM"

[NotStandingBy]

Originally Posted by Thy_Kingdom

Wait..what?

I hate rapists so I'll sleep with anyone that kills rapists. DIE RAPISTS DIE! *makes a machine gun motion* Tat tat tat!! I mean guys that rape kids.. guys that rape drunk/passed out women.. etc, KILL THEM ALL.

[stateless]

I'm all for giving people second chance, and considering extenuating circumstances and all that, but this mans crimes and so heinous that in my view, he does deserve to die. A person doesnt stumble into a situation where they are raping and killing minors. Perhaps his own life was very trauamtic, but people know right from wrong, and even if he felt a drive to commit these sickening crimes, he didn't actually have to. The death senetnce was made for people like this...

[a_ahmed]

The lowest rate of rape in the world is in Saudi Arabia, the highest rate in the world are united states then south africa then canada then mexico and then uk

The islamic shari'ah may seem cruel to non muslims but it is effective as a deterent.

Do you honestly think someone would be dumb enough to rape, kill, steal or cheat with the punishments of shari'ah? Yes some may take the risk, but most won't. On the other hand in the US a rapist can go free and rape again.

All these people who rant about this and that barbaric, inhumane, etc... would gladly say if it was their own mother to not only want to kill the rapist or murderer but to torture them, beat them, give them the harshest torments possible... yet when it comes to shari'ah and islam there is a double standard due to politics.

Shari'ah is practical while on the other hand the US is overflowing with prisons full of murderers, rapists, serial killers, etc...

[hooked4life]

Originally Posted by a_ahmed

The lowest rate of rape in the world is in Saudi Arabia, the highest rate in the world are united states then south africa then canada then mexico and then uk

The islamic shari'ah may seem cruel to non muslims but it is effective as a deterent.

Do you honestly think someone would be dumb enough to rape, kill, steal or cheat with the punishments of shari'ah? Yes some may take the risk, but most won't. On the other hand in the US a rapist can go free and rape again.

Source? And do I really have to point out the awful science in what you just stated?

[MWarsame]

Originally Posted by Thy_Kingdom

Wait..what?

hahahaha

[Joog]

Child murderer/molestor

Was disappointed at the lack of stoning.

Stoning/crucifixion/beheading FTW!

[a_ahmed]

Originally Posted by hooked4life

Source? And do I really have to point out the awful science in what you just stated?

Since you've asked:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sv.pdf

* In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes each month and 683,280 rapes each year.

* 1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime.

* The United States has the world?s highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It?s 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan. SOURCE

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ad361896/...sticspage.html

[hooked4life]

So everyone raving about giving this guy what he deserves ...

just something to think about.

Court's get things wrong. They actually get them wrong a decent amount of the time. Any society that has a death penalty is killing innocents.

[hooked4life]

Originally Posted by a_ahmed

Since you've asked:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sv.pdf

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ad361896/...sticspage.html

Right, just read the first paragraph on your first link to learn how/why what you posted was horribly wrong.