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Old 11-04-2009, 12:04 PM   #9151
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OK, about what? That some people abuse public assistance?

It just seems silly - to the point of ignorance - to get up in arms about that stuff - welfare fraud - it's a trivial amount of money compared to corporate welfare and the other wasteful spending.

I get it though. Public welfare is visible, you see it, it's your neighbor or someone in the checkout line at the store. It's an easy, visible target. You don't see the other stuff.
I agree with you on the bailouts and using public funds to help prvate businesses. but from what I see the people that deserve public assistance don't get it and those whom abuse it get more and more assistance. As for the military spending...well to me that is money well spent. there is a price for freedom.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:08 PM   #9153
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You keep out of this.


Be right back, Moving my fishing thread to the R&P forum.


In other words:

F^CKING STOP IT
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Be right back, Moving my fishing thread to the R&P forum.


In other words:

F^CKING STOP IT
LOL.

This thread would thrive in the R&P section. Just say'n.

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Not really mad here, more like overly-caffeinated and need to go lift. I respect Jerry and RPaul and their points of view, and now that I think of it, that's what makes me want make them see it my way; because I think I've got this one right. I'm not always right, but I will dig in my heels on certain issues I've given a lot of consideration to.

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Be right back, Moving my fishing thread to the R&P forum.


In other words:

F^CKING STOP IT
What the hell is going on in here?

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What the hell is going on in here?


Fishing thread going all R&P.

fitty no likie.
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My son has H1N1.....looks like a minor strain so far and hopefully we caught it in time.
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My son has H1N1.....looks like a minor strain so far and hopefully we caught it in time.
how are you treating it?

hope he gets better soon...it sux when the lil ones are sick
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My son has H1N1.....looks like a minor strain so far and hopefully we caught it in time.
That sucks. Having sick kids is the worst. Hoping for a speedy recovery. He most likely will though. Mine recovered much quicker than we did.
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That sucks. Having sick kids is the worst. Hoping for a speedy recovery. He most likely will though. Mine recovered much quicker than we did.
My kids have had some form of cold/sickness for the past 3 months.
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That sucks. Having sick kids is the worst. Hoping for a speedy recovery. He most likely will though. Mine recovered much quicker than we did.
Thanks fellas..........they gave him tama-flu and tylenol. Jason, the Dr. said that it's worse for adults. I have him wearing a mask until I KNOW its gone.

Missinglink, he JUST got over a cold!!
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My son has H1N1.....looks like a minor strain so far and hopefully we caught it in time.
Sorry to hear that, but happy it sounds minor. Hoping he recovers quickly and no one else is infected.

Maybe I'll get a flu shot. Never had one.
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Well long day playing "Nainoa-Boy-Psychologist."

Grandpa is in the Hospice room... Any day now...

I pretty much spent most of the day... One Aunt would get over whelmed, I'd take her for a walk, let her talk her self back to level.

I'd get back to the room Five mins pass... Another one of his daughters cracks... I take her for a walk... On and On.

In the fathering phase of his life he was one of these guys who was quick with the belt, and his kids came to hate him for it... And really only in the last year have they all been making good and coming to terms... So there was A LOT of mixed emotions, which Shrinknoa helped sort out.

Then after the big family dinner all his daughters got together and gave me a collective family group hug.
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He had 7 daughters and his 2 sons live out state... All the daughters are divorced... So in some strange defuncto way I've become the family Patriarch / Rock of a guy.
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I agree with you on the bailouts and using public funds to help prvate businesses. but from what I see the people that deserve public assistance don't get it and those whom abuse it get more and more assistance. As for the military spending...well to me that is money well spent. there is a price for freedom.
Now-Now guys...

I'm all up for a nice philosophical debate and all that...

But let's try to keep it "Philosophical" and not "Political."

When people play "Politics" it means you're answering and responding to politicians and the perception peddlars of cable news...

^^^These perception peddlars are the friggin' scum of the earth.

When you applaud them or denegrated them using their flash card terms, you don't advance the cause of righteousness or truth... You're just playing around in someone else's pile of pig chit.

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Believe me... I worked in Advertising and PR for 10 years...

There is no "Right Answer" to be found there...

Hell behind the scenes they have a SYSTEM set up to best sell you lies... BOTH SIDES.



Bottom line... If you want to save the world... You want to make a difference... You want to become a wise man, who is a true warrior of life...

It means connecting with the world as it is, on the land, the waves, the people... And let all the political crap trap flush itself down the friggin' gutter.
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I pretty much spent most of the day... One Aunt would get over whelmed, I'd take her for a walk, let her talk her self back to level.

I'd get back to the room Five mins pass... Another one of his daughters cracks... I take her for a walk... On and On.

In the fathering phase of his life he was one of these guys who was quick with the belt, and his kids came to hate him for it... And really only in the last year have they all been making good and coming to terms... So there was A LOT of mixed emotions, which Shrinknoa helped sort out.

Then after the big family dinner all his daughters got together and gave me a collective family group hug.
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He had 7 daughters and his 2 sons live out state... All the daughters are divorced... So in some strange defuncto way I've become the family Patriarch / Rock of a guy.
Been there with my grandparents and both my parents. It's friggin tough. I'm still dealing with the loss of my mother and she'll be gone 7 years this upcoming march 7.

Hang in there and hope the job thing is shaping up for you.
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Been there with my grandparents and both my parents. It's friggin tough. I'm still dealing with the loss of my mother and she'll be gone 7 years this upcoming march 7.

Hang in there and hope the job thing is shaping up for you.
I actually got a half-assed job offer today from my Aunt-In-Law's estranged husband... He just retired from a big time Ad Agency in Minneapolis, and said he could get me an entry level design job for around $30-$35K... And that my experience should help me leap frog up the chain.

But Agency Life...

Ick...

It's Really NOT me...

Not the direction I want to take my life and the next phase of my career.
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I actually got a half-assed job offer today from my Aunt-In-Law's estranged husband... He just retired from a big time Ad Agency in Minneapolis, and said he could get me an entry level design job for around $30-$35K... And that my experience should help me leap frog up the chain.

But Agency Life...

Ick...

It's Really NOT me...

Not the direction I want to take my life and the next phase of my career.
If you leap frog up the chain (which I think you would), I wonder what the pay increase would be ?? Kind of interesting and something to possibly ask more questions about......never know my friend
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My guess is... (Based on the guys I know who are up the chain, in Agency life.)

10 years from now, I could probably be earning 6 figures per year.

But what has to be done to get there... To live and work and be that way...

Is for me, the spiritual equivalent of you sucking dick at the bus station men's room for a buck a throw.

I wonder how much money you'd make?
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But Agency Life...

Ick...

It's Really NOT me...

Not the direction I want to take my life and the next phase of my career.
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Yeah...

I just spent 10 friggin' miserable years saying that...

Work out well... It does not.
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Yeah...

I just spent 10 friggin' miserable years saying that...

Work out well... It does not.
LOL...I hear ya...but ya gotta eat
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LOL...I hear ya...but ya gotta eat
There also comes a time in your life when you've gotta take a shot...

When you've gotta nut up and try to make something bigger happen in your life.


This is why youhave sayings like Emerson: "Fortune Favors the Bold."

Instead of "Fortune Favors the Guy who whores himself out for cash and wishes upon a star that something better will come along one day."
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There also comes a time in your life when you've gotta take a shot...

When you've gotta nut up and try to make something bigger happen in your life.


This is why youhave sayings like Emerson: "Fortune Favors the Bold."

Instead of "Fortune Favors the Guy who whores himself out for cash and wishes upon a star that something better will come along one day."
I hear what you're saying but I have also seen folks who make bold moves fail miserably...I guess its a matter of how much and how long you want to gamble with your livelyhood I don't really know your story or your situation, but I can't afford to take that kind of risk in my life
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I hear what you're saying but I have also seen folks who make bold moves fail miserably...I guess its a matter of how much and how long you want to gamble with your livelyhood I don't really know your story or your situation, but I can't afford to take that kind of risk in my life
Well that's why it's called a risk...

But I'll tell you this man...

I've seen a lot of death in my life... Hell I was holding the hands of a dieing man 3 hours ago promising him that I'd be the rock who helps get his daughter's through his death.

And in all of those times I've spent at someone's death bed... All the times I've had a guy dieing of AIDS give me his last confession... All the times I've looked into the eyes of loved ones or walked through hospice wards...

And you try not to look, but you see them there, clutching a friggin' bedrail, crying the last tears of their physical dignity onto their pillow.

And I chit you not... There is not a single Goddam one of them who has ever said "I wish I would have played it more safe in my life!"

Not one...

This is because every goddam one of us has a friggin' dynamo inside... Every one of us at one point or another believed in something...

And somewhere along the people let life beat the chit out of them... And they get afriad... And they choose the quick and easy path... Making a bunch of cheap excuses for not chasing after the dreams that sang inside their hearts, in years much younger and more vibrant.

I've found through the course of my adventures through this life that it's in the moments when life beats you down... When it strips you down to bare wood... That it is THE PRIME OPPORTUNITY, to take that kind of "Reach for the Stars" kind of risk.

Because it gives you a chance to reach up for something with the least amount of chains...

And Maybe... Just Maybe.. You get to be that old man one day clutching that bedrail and you don't have to pant out a couple of mumbling last regrets...

Because you know safe and deep in your heart that you had all the nuts, all the balls, all the courage to cowboy up and chase after them.

In the end...

Failure is natural... Giving up is not.
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