Christians, does god have emotions?

[dmacfour]

Wait what? Didn't god regret flooding the earth, and promise never to do it again? Another example of Christians making **** up?

Originally Posted by chocs

God is a GOOD God!!

First of all God created Adam and Eve in the garden of eden. He intended ONLY GOOD for us all. They were in paradise and we would still be too if they didn't disobey. You may say why is their sin my fault? Because we all would have done the same thing under the same circumstance. The temptation would have been too great. So now we have to earn our salvation. Wanting to be "like a god" has more responsibilities. God is so good considering the world is cursed and yet we still get some great days here.

Jesus is perfect God and perfect man. So he experienced exactly what we do now while he was on earth without sin. Why did Jesus not sin? Because he wanted nothing for himself and everything for others but the rest of us all want something. Some more, some less.

God's jealousy is different from our jealousy. It is only bad to be jealous of things that are not yours. And this jealousy is not an evil form of jealousy to control but so we can have what is best for us.

God's anger is different as well. There is no loss of self control like we do. He never regrets his anger. He never feels satisfied like murderers do. He is angry at evil and if he feels that there is too much evil in the world ready to overtake the good he will not hesitate to destroy. He doesn't want good to win evil yet either until he comes again in glory. He respects satan's freedom still and those that choose to not listen to him.

We can not fathom why God works the way he does. Sometimes he could allow people to die so that they will not accumulate too much sin during their lifetime but really are good people inside (just too weak). He does this injustice here so they don't get punished when they die. He may take someone's child so that this weakness can make him believe so that both the parent and child may be saved and they child could have greater riches there because of the injustice. He has many ways of operating out of love and it is dangerous to try and play God and think we know better than him or that we can understand him.

[caj]

Originally Posted by dmacfour

Wait what? Didn't god regret flooding the earth, and promise never to do it again? Another example of Christians making **** up?

I don't believe God ever said He regretted it, He just made a new covenant in which He promised never to destroy all flesh with flooding waters.

11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

[dmacfour]

"I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following Me and has not carried out My commands." And Samuel was distressed and cried out to the LORD all night."

1 Sam 15:11


what were you saying about god not regreting things?

[caj]

Originally Posted by dmacfour

"I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following Me and has not carried out My commands." And Samuel was distressed and cried out to the LORD all night."

1 Sam 15:11


what were you saying about god not regreting things?

I believe you read way too much into my post concerning the flood.

[dmacfour]

Originally Posted by caj

I believe you read way too much into my post concerning the flood.

I guess my point is: Why would a perfect being do something that they would regret? Regret is an emotion experienced when one makes a mistake.

I think someone posted earlier that god doesn't do things he'll regret; I'm trying to point out that according to the bible, he does

[ThundaHawk]

This thread needs moar consideration.

[stealth_swimmer]

I'm not sure if they're emotions in the way we understand them because i don't know Hebrew and therefore haven't read the bible in its original language (and haven't even read the whole thing in English, lol)....but going on what I've read....yes.

[bmy-]

Originally Posted by chocs

God is a GOOD God!!

First of all God created Adam and Eve in the garden of eden. He intended ONLY GOOD for us all. They were in paradise and we would still be too if they didn't disobey. You may say why is their sin my fault? Because we all would have done the same thing under the same circumstance. The temptation would have been too great. So now we have to earn our salvation. Wanting to be "like a god" has more responsibilities. God is so good considering the world is cursed and yet we still get some great days here.

Jesus is perfect God and perfect man. So he experienced exactly what we do now while he was on earth without sin. Why did Jesus not sin? Because he wanted nothing for himself and everything for others but the rest of us all want something. Some more, some less.

God's jealousy is different from our jealousy. It is only bad to be jealous of things that are not yours. And this jealousy is not an evil form of jealousy to control but so we can have what is best for us.

God's anger is different as well. There is no loss of self control like we do. He never regrets his anger. He never feels satisfied like murderers do. He is angry at evil and if he feels that there is too much evil in the world ready to overtake the good he will not hesitate to destroy. He doesn't want good to win evil yet either until he comes again in glory. He respects satan's freedom still and those that choose to not listen to him.

We can not fathom why God works the way he does. Sometimes he could allow people to die so that they will not accumulate too much sin during their lifetime but really are good people inside (just too weak). He does this injustice here so they don't get punished when they die. He may take someone's child so that this weakness can make him believe so that both the parent and child may be saved and they child could have greater riches there because of the injustice. He has many ways of operating out of love and it is dangerous to try and play God and think we know better than him or that we can understand him.

I am disappoint.

In this fairy tale God put that tree there for a reason. Follow the logical conclusions and realize this: In your theology God wanted man to fall, it was necessary. I can only offer my view points.. well.. and that of the LDS church too -- in LDS theology God is very human and thus feels human emotions.

[Geese_Howard]

Originally Posted by bmy-

I am disappoint.

In this fairy tale God put that tree there for a reason. Follow the logical conclusions and realize this: In your theology God wanted man to fall, it was necessary. I can only offer my view points.. well.. and that of the LDS church too -- in LDS theology God is very human and thus feels human emotions.

Good post. You have to consider the motives of god for putting the tree in the garden of evil. I believe he must have wanted man to fail. What loving parent installs a kiddie pool in their childs bedroom and expects them not to drown?
The stooges will cry 'free will is love' but love is ultimately putting the welfare of others before your own and that is why it would have been responsible for god to have no tree in the garden full well knowing the potential consequences.
Again another example of the failed story that is the bible

[Whoda]

Originally Posted by Geese_Howard

Good post. You have to consider the motives of god for putting the tree in the garden of evil. I believe he must have wanted man to fail. What loving parent installs a kiddie pool in their childs bedroom and expects them not to drown?
The stooges will cry 'free will is love' but love is ultimately putting the welfare of others before your own and that is why it would have been responsible for god to have no tree in the garden full well knowing the potential consequences.
Again another example of the failed story that is the bible

Considering that satan had already been cast out of heaven with his angels, maybe it was a part of Gods plan. God never intended for sin to be in the world, but satan rebelled

[JAGERBOY]

If "God" has no emotions, then why would he create all of this? Why would you love and praise some entity that remained unimpressed and stolid to your advances? And don't most theists claim God "loves" us? If God has no emotions, then what is "love" to God?

[leafs43]

Of course he does.


How else can he be mad and cast Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden and be pissed for all eternity at man as a result?

[Geese_Howard]

Originally Posted by Whoda

Considering that satan had already been cast out of heaven with his angels, maybe it was a part of Gods plan. God never intended for sin to be in the world, but satan rebelled

Can you explain this? So satan placed the tree there?

[Whoda]

Originally Posted by Geese_Howard

Can you explain this? So satan placed the tree there?

whaaaaaat? Do you know the bible? rhetorical question, as you have proven you dont.

[Geese_Howard]

Originally Posted by Whoda

whaaaaaat? Do you know the bible? rhetorical question, as you have proven you dont.

I probably know it better than you. My question was about your original comment. Do you admit that god wanted man to fail? It is the logical conclusion as he put the tree in the garden of eden. Why put it there if he apparently loves man?

[F2.]

Originally Posted by Bahai.Lifter

God did not create evil, for only good proceeds from Him. How, then, did evil come into existence? Well, what is evil or sin? Turning away from God, turning away from the Divine decree. So man, who has been given free will, has the choice to follow the precepts of God (good), or to go his own way and follow the dictates of his animal nature (evil). It is free will that gives us the option to do the right thing, or to turn away from doing the right thing (evil). "The source of all evil is for man to turn away from his Lord and set his heart on things ungodly" (Baha'u'llah).

For a more extensive treatment of this topic, please see: http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAQ/saq-75.html

regardless of who chooses what god made EVERYTHING right? therefore he made evil

Originally Posted by Whoda

Considering that satan had already been cast out of heaven with his angels, maybe it was a part of Gods plan. God never intended for sin to be in the world, but satan rebelled

god is all knowing right? so he made an "angel" that he knew would rebel and turn into the "devil" just so he could fcuk with people everyday and mess up their lives?

god sounds pretty fcuked in the head if you ask me

[ThundaHawk]

Originally Posted by F2.

regardless of who chooses what god made EVERYTHING right? therefore he made evil


god is all knowing right? so he made an "angel" that he knew would rebel and turn into the "devil" just so he could fcuk with people everyday and mess up their lives?

god sounds pretty fcuked in the head if you ask me

The concept of a Fallen Angel is just a really cool story (for evidence, you need look no further than all the fallen angel gimmicks and spinoff tales that have been written over the years). It's convincing for people so long as they don't question the contradiction: "how can all all-powerful, all-knowing entity ever be betrayed?" If God was omnipotent, he could annihilate all evil in the universe with a single fart. Evil exists because god (if he is all-powerful) lets it exist. In this twisted sense, it's more God's fault than man's when evil occurs.

[ONEWORDMAN]

Originally Posted by dmacfour

I guess my point is: Why would a perfect being do something that they would regret? Regret is an emotion experienced when one makes a mistake.

I think someone posted earlier that god doesn't do things he'll regret; I'm trying to point out that according to the bible, he does

Well GOD is perfect he didnt regret because he made a mistake.He felt regret that because of king saul choices and acts he took the kingship from him and removed his spirit from him.And later the sucessor king david did many wonderful things and many stupid things.The point is imperfect people of free will can and will screw up, some by accident or a moment of weakness others on purpose with no sign of repentance like king saul.

[bmy-]

Originally Posted by Whoda

Considering that satan had already been cast out of heaven with his angels, maybe it was a part of Gods plan. God never intended for sin to be in the world, but satan rebelled

No.. you misunderstand me. God did intend for sin to be in this world. Sin (negative force) is necessary for growth. To quote a song..

"You can't learn to tell the truth until you learn to lie"

Now surely God did not create us to be mindless worshipping robots. Surely we mean something to him, does he not look at us like we are his own children? Perhaps we are in a literal sense.. more than meets the eye In this fairy tale, of course.

[Num3n]

Originally Posted by fodosho

Yes it's a tarp so think carefully before you answer.
InB4 Poll.

of course he has emotions it says so in the bible... in the old testament it constantly says he is jealous, etc. in the new testament it lists him as forgiving, loving, and caring, etc.

Originally Posted by bmy-

No.. you misunderstand me. God did intend for sin to be in this world. Sin (negative force) is necessary for growth. To quote a song..

"You can't learn to tell the truth until you learn to lie"

Now surely God did not create us to be mindless worshipping robots. Surely we mean something to him, does he not look at us like we are his own children? Perhaps we are in a literal sense.. more than meets the eye In this fairy tale, of course.

das is exactly like the quote in my sig.

To attempt an understanding of Muad'Dib without understanding his mortal enemies, the Harkonnens, is to attempt seeing Truth without knowing Falsehood. It is the attempt to see the Light without knowing Darkness. It cannot be. ~ Princess Irulan

[F2.]

Originally Posted by ThundaHawk

The concept of a Fallen Angel is just a really cool story (for evidence, you need look no further than all the fallen angel gimmicks and spinoff tales that have been written over the years). It's convincing for people so long as they don't question the contradiction: "how can all all-powerful, all-knowing entity ever be betrayed?" If God was omnipotent, he could annihilate all evil in the universe with a single fart. Evil exists because god (if he is all-powerful) lets it exist. In this twisted sense, it's more God's fault than man's when evil occurs.

exactly

lets say there is a god. he gives me freewill to choose not to believe in his fairy tale bible, and he also then gives me no proof what so ever that he exists

if this god would d@mn me to hell for using the rational brain(which was made by him) then I'd rather burn for eternity and chill with the devil; because a "god" as petty as that will neither get nor deserve worship from me

[JAGERBOY]

Originally Posted by JAGERBOY

If "God" has no emotions, then why would he create all of this? Why would you love and praise some entity that remained unimpressed and stolid to your advances? And don't most theists claim God "loves" us? If God has no emotions, then what is "love" to God?

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