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[jacked in MI]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

Absolute bummer, Derek

You know what to do so here's for a speedy healing process. -Jeff

[DIreland89]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

Man that really sucks . Hope you recover fast and keep progressing when you get back at it .

[Leebeard]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

Really sorry to hear this Derek,

all the very best for getting better

Lee

[GymMunkey]

Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel

We sell T shirts at our church that read "No PERFECT people allowed"

We invite everyone to come hear the message. Gay, straight, bi, athiest, drug addict, alcoholic, prostitute....EVERYONE. We are ALL imperfect and if we had to walk around with our sins on the front of our shirts all of us would be embarrassed to go outside.

Jesus didn't sit in a church for 30 years and tell people they were doomed even though he had every right to because he was perfect. He hung out with the normal people. People that need and deserve to hear His message.

We all (my self included) need to put ourselves on blast and realize that we are no better than anyone on the face of this earth. /rant

I kinda of disagree and agree at the same time. I don't believe in organized religion, nor do I even know if there is a "God" or not. But I do believe that the person who applies self restraint is better than another who doesn't. Most people have sexual desire, even outside of their marriage. However, it's the ones who have that desire and fight it that are the good people. They have the same desire, probably even just as strong as the people who do cheat, but they think of someone else above themselves, that makes them better than someone who doesn't. I know some people say we shouldn't judge, but judging is 100% a part of life. We judge the people we hang around with, we judge situations... we judge. Everyone does it, you don't have to do it in a gloating manner, that's not the point. The point is that everyone has standards, I don't hang around with someone who is a drug addict, because I don't want that in my life. I don't care what he/she does, I will say hi in passing, but that's not my life standard. The whole Gay, straight, bi thing, that is different. That's like hating/judging someone because they don't like mushrooms and you do. That's just a stupid thing to even care about, IMO. But if what they are doing can effect your life, you judge. That's why we call the police when someone robs a house, that's why people go to jail or get the death sentence, we do have a right to judge people who are infecting our societies.

It actually becomes VERY irritating to me when someone says a person who rapes and kills is equal to me. That is simply not true. I am better than they are, I don't rape and kill. Everyone has had the desire to cheat, steal, etc. But those people who can put someone else's feelings ahead of their own are the good ones. I don't care what anyone tells me, I am better than people who hold no regard for anyone but themselves. Which is why I find most religions to be incorrect, don't tell me to thank the drunk driver that killed someone I loved... they taught me some kind of lesson? No, they just made me feel pain, and had they thought of anyone aside from themselves it was a pain I wouldn't have needed to feel.

I guess the biggest point of my rant here, is that people who choose wisely and think of others first, are better than those who don't. And, to me, if you say otherwise you are down playing those who make the hardest decisions, and make them wisely. Not out of instinct, desire and selfishness.

[GymMunkey]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

Dang! That sucks D. I hope you recover quickly!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by solid252

Sorry to hear that bro, best of luck in recovering. Back injuries are def. the most annoying.

Originally Posted by jacked in MI

Absolute bummer, Derek

You know what to do so here's for a speedy healing process. -Jeff

Originally Posted by DIreland89

Man that really sucks . Hope you recover fast and keep progressing when you get back at it .

Originally Posted by Leebeard

Really sorry to hear this Derek,

all the very best for getting better

Lee

Originally Posted by GymMunkey

Dang! That sucks D. I hope you recover quickly!

Thanks everyone!

[DIreland89]

Originally Posted by Beast

Thanks everyone!

No Thank you! For all you do!

[jacked in MI]

Originally Posted by GymMunkey

I kinda of disagree and agree at the same time. I don't believe in organized religion, nor do I even know if there is a "God" or not. But I do believe that the person who applies self restraint is better than another who doesn't. Most people have sexual desire, even outside of their marriage. However, it's the ones who have that desire and fight it that are the good people. They have the same desire, probably even just as strong as the people who do cheat, but they think of someone else above themselves, that makes them better than someone who doesn't. I know some people say we shouldn't judge, but judging is 100% a part of life. We judge the people we hang around with, we judge situations... we judge. Everyone does it, you don't have to do it in a gloating manner, that's not the point. The point is that everyone has standards, I don't hang around with someone who is a drug addict, because I don't want that in my life. I don't care what he/she does, I will say hi in passing, but that's not my life standard. The whole Gay, straight, bi thing, that is different. That's like hating/judging someone because they don't like mushrooms and you do. That's just a stupid thing to even care about, IMO. But if what they are doing can effect your life, you judge. That's why we call the police when someone robs a house, that's why people go to jail or get the death sentence, we do have a right to judge people who are infecting our societies.

It actually becomes VERY irritating to me when someone says a person who rapes and kills is equal to me. That is simply not true. I am better than they are, I don't rape and kill. Everyone has had the desire to cheat, steal, etc. But those people who can put someone else's feelings ahead of their own are the good ones. I don't care what anyone tells me, I am better than people who hold no regard for anyone but themselves. Which is why I find most religions to be incorrect, don't tell me to thank the drunk driver that killed someone I loved... they taught me some kind of lesson? No, they just made me feel pain, and had they thought of anyone aside from themselves it was a pain I wouldn't have needed to feel.

I guess the biggest point of my rant here, is that people who choose wisely and think of others first, are better than those who don't. And, to me, if you say otherwise you are down playing those who make the hardest decisions, and make them wisely. Not out of instinct, desire and selfishness.

I am of the same viewpoint as you. Excellent posting! -Jeff

[mad86]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

I injured my back doing stiff leg deadlifts a couple months ago. I went to the chiropractor and iced it and i was good by next week. I dont know the seriousness of your injury but i hope you recover soon big man.

[abdotoni]

Originally Posted by jacked in MI

I am of the same viewpoint as you. Excellent posting! -Jeff

Hey guys, I was doing pre-exhaution workout for a whlie, and now I want to try the hypertrophy training, I've been hearing about it a lot, would it be good if I did it like that( superset antagonist wourkout 4 sets 8-12 reps)? or how many sets and reps should I do? I'm a little confused

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by abdotoni

Hey guys, I was doing pre-exhaution workout for a whlie, and now I want to try the hypertrophy training, I've been hearing about it a lot, would it be good if I did it like that( superset antagonist wourkout 4 sets 8-12 reps)? or how many sets and reps should I do? I'm a little confused

If I had any clue what this meant, i would help out!

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by GymMunkey

I kinda of disagree and agree at the same time. I don't believe in organized religion, nor do I even know if there is a "God" or not. But I do believe that the person who applies self restraint is better than another who doesn't. Most people have sexual desire, even outside of their marriage. However, it's the ones who have that desire and fight it that are the good people. They have the same desire, probably even just as strong as the people who do cheat, but they think of someone else above themselves, that makes them better than someone who doesn't. I know some people say we shouldn't judge, but judging is 100% a part of life. We judge the people we hang around with, we judge situations... we judge. Everyone does it, you don't have to do it in a gloating manner, that's not the point. The point is that everyone has standards, I don't hang around with someone who is a drug addict, because I don't want that in my life. I don't care what he/she does, I will say hi in passing, but that's not my life standard. The whole Gay, straight, bi thing, that is different. That's like hating/judging someone because they don't like mushrooms and you do. That's just a stupid thing to even care about, IMO. But if what they are doing can effect your life, you judge. That's why we call the police when someone robs a house, that's why people go to jail or get the death sentence, we do have a right to judge people who are infecting our societies.

It actually becomes VERY irritating to me when someone says a person who rapes and kills is equal to me. That is simply not true. I am better than they are, I don't rape and kill. Everyone has had the desire to cheat, steal, etc. But those people who can put someone else's feelings ahead of their own are the good ones. I don't care what anyone tells me, I am better than people who hold no regard for anyone but themselves. Which is why I find most religions to be incorrect, don't tell me to thank the drunk driver that killed someone I loved... they taught me some kind of lesson? No, they just made me feel pain, and had they thought of anyone aside from themselves it was a pain I wouldn't have needed to feel.

I guess the biggest point of my rant here, is that people who choose wisely and think of others first, are better than those who don't. And, to me, if you say otherwise you are down playing those who make the hardest decisions, and make them wisely. Not out of instinct, desire and selfishness.

This is brilliant.

[abdotoni]

Originally Posted by Scivation

This is brilliant.

well I mean the Hypertrophy workout, but I'm only confused with the set and the rep range, how it should be

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by abdotoni

well I mean the Hypertrophy workout, but I'm only confused with the set and the rep range, how it should be

8-12 is normally considered hypertrophy.

And you quoted the wrong post.

[abdotoni]

Originally Posted by Scivation

8-12 is normally considered hypertrophy.

And you quoted the wrong post.

so like I do the first set 12 and then 10 then 8 then 8, like 4 sets?

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by abdotoni

so like I do the first set 12 and then 10 then 8 then 8, like 4 sets?

That would be pyramid training. As long as you are in the 8-12 range, this is considered the hypertrophy range, but IMO, there is more to it than that.

Just let Derek do your program...

[abdotoni]

Originally Posted by Scivation

That would be pyramid training. As long as you are in the 8-12 range, this is considered the hypertrophy range, but IMO, there is more to it than that.

Just let Derek do your program...

ok thx man

[chris1230]

Originally Posted by Scivation

Daily Blast
Sunday Christians and Doing the Right Thing!
11-4-09

Marc Lobliner


I had the opportunity of having dinner with a fellow business owner in the sport nutrition industry last night who also had a family. We got to talking about our beliefs in God and our ethics and values. We then got to talking about some other people in this industry and life in general. Then we both spoke of the unfortunately common "Sunday Christian". We have all met some of these. Every other word is a Godly one, and then you find out they are cheating on their wife and are doing not as they say. Thus, this callout goes to all Jesse Jackson-esque, bible-breaking lookin" boys.

If you remember, the good Christian Jesse Jackson got caught in an affair with a lovechild, or a bastard depending on how you like to word it, a couple of years back. The "Reverend" though is somehow still in the news as a leader.

As a God-believing individual, this makes me sick. How do we hold these hypocrites in such high prestige? How do we forgive this inexcusable behavior?

I had dinner a few years back with another company owner in the industry. He sat down, made us all say a prayer to thank Jesus for our meal, then went on to flirt with the waitress and tell of us his sexual escapades with various women. Oh yeah, these women were not his wife....yes, he was married! He then got divorced over it, another sin! Ahhhhhhh!

It is time to put the World's dwindling code of ethics on blast. I am sick and tired of hypocrisy in religion. If you preach the good word, live by it! And before cheating on your wife or husband, think about how much it will hurt them and destroy your family WHEN (they WILL find out sooner or later) they find out. They always find out. And even if they don't, unless you are not human, it will eat at your soul and destroy your life to live the lie.

I have been with my wife since high school. We were both virgins when we met. Yes, we are both eachother's only partner ever. I would never cheat on my wife. Not because I love God, which I do, but because I love her.

Whatever your religion or if you even have one, think about others' feelings before you act. How will your actions make them feel? And if you do speak the word, live it! Nothing makes me more sick than hypocrites! Especially of the religious kind. And don't fool yourself, if you cheat on your spouse and you believe in hell, no amount repenting will get you out of it, have fun in hell.

Religious hypocrites, you are being put on blast for destroying the pureness and amazing societal benefit of religion. This is also a plea with all, religious or atheist, to think of the consequences before you act.

"Hypocrite lookin' boy"

Marc. First off, sorry not everybody can be a perfect as you. God forgives all sins as long as you are willing to accept him as your higher power. Some may consider you a sinner as you are a greedy, CEO of a supplement company that sells to kids who think your product will give them the "lobliner look" knowing damn well it will not. Lets not get it twisted, your main concern is MONEY=Greed. You can say it is not, but why else would you be doing this? To make sure your children never have to WANT, correct? We are all sinners in some right and no sin is greater than another. GOD FORGIVES. Look in the mirror before you go typing these outlandish things. I am a devout christian and you just sound stupid bro. BTW, i have never cheated on my wife either of which we've been together with children since 14 years old! Don't toot your own horn for something that is expected of you as a human being. Sorry to put YOU on blast like this but c'mon, come back to EARTH.

[triplewhammy]

Originally Posted by chris1230

Marc. First off, sorry not everybody can be a perfect as you. God forgives all sins as long as you are willing to accept him as your higher power. Some may consider you a sinner as you are a greedy, CEO of a supplement company that sells to kids who think your product will give them the "lobliner look" knowing damn well it will not. Lets not get it twisted, your main concern is MONEY=Greed. You can say it is not, but why else would you be doing this? To make sure your children never have to WANT, correct? We are all sinners in some right and no sin is greater than another. GOD FORGIVES. Look in the mirror before you go typing these outlandish things. I am a devout christian and you just sound stupid bro. BTW, i have never cheated on my wife either of which we've been together with children since 14 years old! Don't toot your own horn for something that is expected of you as a human being. Sorry to put YOU on blast like this but c'mon, come back to EARTH.

Look, I understand where you are coming from but you know what -- as a Christian I applaud when Marc promotes fidelity. No, Marc and I do not see eye to eye on everything. For example, I believe that lust of the heart is the greater issue at hand, not simply the act of adultery, but having said that I am going to support and high-five Marc when he promotes Truth rather than tear him down.

Josh

[chris1230]

Originally Posted by GymMunkey

I kinda of disagree and agree at the same time. I don't believe in organized religion, nor do I even know if there is a "God" or not. But I do believe that the person who applies self restraint is better than another who doesn't. Most people have sexual desire, even outside of their marriage. However, it's the ones who have that desire and fight it that are the good people. They have the same desire, probably even just as strong as the people who do cheat, but they think of someone else above themselves, that makes them better than someone who doesn't. I know some people say we shouldn't judge, but judging is 100% a part of life. We judge the people we hang around with, we judge situations... we judge. Everyone does it, you don't have to do it in a gloating manner, that's not the point. The point is that everyone has standards, I don't hang around with someone who is a drug addict, because I don't want that in my life. I don't care what he/she does, I will say hi in passing, but that's not my life standard. The whole Gay, straight, bi thing, that is different. That's like hating/judging someone because they don't like mushrooms and you do. That's just a stupid thing to even care about, IMO. But if what they are doing can effect your life, you judge. That's why we call the police when someone robs a house, that's why people go to jail or get the death sentence, we do have a right to judge people who are infecting our societies.

It actually becomes VERY irritating to me when someone says a person who rapes and kills is equal to me. That is simply not true. I am better than they are, I don't rape and kill. Everyone has had the desire to cheat, steal, etc. But those people who can put someone else's feelings ahead of their own are the good ones. I don't care what anyone tells me, I am better than people who hold no regard for anyone but themselves. Which is why I find most religions to be incorrect, don't tell me to thank the drunk driver that killed someone I loved... they taught me some kind of lesson? No, they just made me feel pain, and had they thought of anyone aside from themselves it was a pain I wouldn't have needed to feel.

I guess the biggest point of my rant here, is that people who choose wisely and think of others first, are better than those who don't. And, to me, if you say otherwise you are down playing those who make the hardest decisions, and make them wisely. Not out of instinct, desire and selfishness.

FALSE. YOU ARE BETTER THAN NOBODY! This statement here shows your ignorance. Believe me, I am no advocate of rapists or child molesters etc. and think they should be hung by the balls and tortured. But after that, let GOD decide what to do with them. I would guess you aren't a religious person, which is fine, but Marc, as someone who believes and has FAITH, you should believe in the teachings of the bible. That is why it is there. Dont be a HIPOCRITE! :/ We all are NOTHING in Gods presese. That is why He is God and we are us. PERIOD.

[chris1230]

Originally Posted by triplewhammy

Look, I understand where you are coming from but you know what -- as a Christian I applaud when Marc promotes fidelity. No, Marc and I do not see eye to eye on everything. For example, I believe that lust of the heart is the greater issue at hand, not simply the act of adultery, but having said that I am going to support and high-five Marc when he promotes Truth rather than tear him down.

Josh

As am I. I think Marc is a GREAT, outstanding individual. BUT, he gets on his high horse and I just gotta knock him off sometimes. He's a great dude but c'mon, he aint the almighty.

[BBTake2]

Originally Posted by chris1230

Marc. First off, sorry not everybody can be a perfect as you. God forgives all sins as long as you are willing to accept him as your higher power. Some may consider you a sinner as you are a greedy, CEO of a supplement company that sells to kids who think your product will give them the "lobliner look" knowing damn well it will not. Lets not get it twisted, your main concern is MONEY=Greed. You can say it is not, but why else would you be doing this? To make sure your children never have to WANT, correct? We are all sinners in some right and no sin is greater than another. GOD FORGIVES. Look in the mirror before you go typing these outlandish things. I am a devout christian and you just sound stupid bro. BTW, i have never cheated on my wife either of which we've been together with children since 14 years old! Don't toot your own horn for something that is expected of you as a human being. Sorry to put YOU on blast like this but c'mon, come back to EARTH.

Another brainwashed sheep, sad. Hiw the F do you know what God is or is not willing to do?? Have you met God? Were you given this info first hand? NO, you are a brainwashed sheep uncapable of thinking for yourself.

[DIreland89]

Originally Posted by chris1230

Marc. First off, sorry not everybody can be a perfect as you. God forgives all sins as long as you are willing to accept him as your higher power. Some may consider you a sinner as you are a greedy, CEO of a supplement company that sells to kids who think your product will give them the "lobliner look" knowing damn well it will not. Lets not get it twisted, your main concern is MONEY=Greed. You can say it is not, but why else would you be doing this? To make sure your children never have to WANT, correct? We are all sinners in some right and no sin is greater than another. GOD FORGIVES. Look in the mirror before you go typing these outlandish things. I am a devout christian and you just sound stupid bro. BTW, i have never cheated on my wife either of which we've been together with children since 14 years old! Don't toot your own horn for something that is expected of you as a human being. Sorry to put YOU on blast like this but c'mon, come back to EARTH.

I got something totally different from his post. I go these basic and simple ways to live life.

1) Be loyal to your significant other
2) Don't pretend to be something your not
3) That he as well as many others are sick of seeing people that pretend to be good People or devote to their Faith only to cheat on their wife, or do something that their Faith is strongly against.
4) And the most important fact, to think of others rather than just yourself. And how your actions will affect them and their life.

I really like his post because I live with a person that is two faced and will say one thing and do the complete opposite and has done many of those things in his post. Cheated/Lied/ thinks of himself first and only himself no one else ( He has 2 kids) and he always puts himself first even before his wife. Which is a selfish act and shows that he really does not "Love" his family. He can say it all he wants.

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by chris1230

As am I. I think Marc is a GREAT, outstanding individual. BUT, he gets on his high horse and I just gotta knock him off sometimes. He's a great dude but c'mon, he aint the almighty.

False. I am the freaking man!

NOT on a high horse, just calling out hypocrites.

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by direland89

i got something totally different from his post. I go these basic and simple ways to live life.

1) be loyal to your significant other
2) don't pretend to be something your not
3) that he as well as many others are sick of seeing people that pretend to be good people or devote to their faith only to cheat on their wife, or do something that their faith is strongly against.
4) and the most important fact, to think of others rather than just yourself. And how your actions will affect them and their life.

I really like his post because i live with a person that is two faced and will say one thing and do the complete opposite and has done many of those things in his post. Cheated/lied/ thinks of himself first and only himself no one else ( he has 2 kids) and he always puts himself first even before his wife. Which is a selfish act and shows that he really does not "love" his family. He can say it all he wants.

yes yes yes!!!

[Fire8085]

Originally Posted by Beast

Back injury...

Well I re-injured my back yesterday during seated cable rows on the 1st rep of the set (which I should have been able to get 10 reps with). I leaned forward to grab the bar and as I was leaning back and pulling the bar into the starting position I got a shooting pain in my lower back. I immediately stopped the set as I knew my back was injured. This was the same exact feeling as when I had strained my back on deadlifts almost 1 full year ago. I iced my back all day yesterday hoping that I would wake up today and it wouldn't be as bad, but it is pretty bad, beyond painful. I was going to take this week off no matter what my back felt like this morning, but now I am thinking about taking this week and next week off just to give me body some extra recovery time. This sucks because I was progressing so well lately. I have been training smart, but I have been slacking on my pre-workout lower back dynamic stretching... So I will be icing my back all day, taking some extra Elastamine and Cissus, and sipping on a couple Solution 5 shakes because the pain takes away my appetite. This injury feels exactly the same as the one a year ago so I should be ok by Monday but I am probably going to take next week off as well.

Damnit! Sorry man that sucks. For reference, seated rows have re injured me twice. I'm staying away from those for a longgg time.

When did you originally injure yourself and how did you do it exactly?

Also, what kind of stretching do you do for your back?

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by chris1230

Marc. First off, sorry not everybody can be a perfect as you. God forgives all sins as long as you are willing to accept him as your higher power. Some may consider you a sinner as you are a greedy, CEO of a supplement company that sells to kids who think your product will give them the "lobliner look" knowing damn well it will not. Lets not get it twisted, your main concern is MONEY=Greed. You can say it is not, but why else would you be doing this? To make sure your children never have to WANT, correct? We are all sinners in some right and no sin is greater than another. GOD FORGIVES. Look in the mirror before you go typing these outlandish things. I am a devout christian and you just sound stupid bro. BTW, i have never cheated on my wife either of which we've been together with children since 14 years old! Don't toot your own horn for something that is expected of you as a human being. Sorry to put YOU on blast like this but c'mon, come back to EARTH.

So let me get this straight....

1) I am greedy because I own a company that provides free diet and training and sells supplements to help people reach their goals because I want to feed my children with the profits?

2) I have never, ever said that everyone can look like me. This has taken over 10 years and a lot of sacrifice and dedication.

3) I DO think Rape and Murder are WORSE sins that me dropping the F-Bomb. A sin is not a sin in my mind.

4) I promoted fidelity and used myself as an example, thereby "tooting" my own horn.

Wow, strong logic, Chris.

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by chris1230

FALSE. YOU ARE BETTER THAN NOBODY! This statement here shows your ignorance. Believe me, I am no advocate of rapists or child molesters etc. and think they should be hung by the balls and tortured. But after that, let GOD decide what to do with them. I would guess you aren't a religious person, which is fine, but Marc, as someone who believes and has FAITH, you should believe in the teachings of the bible. That is why it is there. Dont be a HIPOCRITE! :/ We all are NOTHING in Gods presese. That is why He is God and we are us. PERIOD.

HE is God? God is a man? Just kidding, that's a whole new debate!

Also, We ARE something in God's presence. Why would God create a bunch of nothings?

[chris1230]

Originally Posted by Scivation

False. I am the freaking man!

NOT on a high horse, just calling out hypocrites.

Call out yourself sometimes too then. Hypocrite.

[Scivation]

Originally Posted by BBTake2

Another brainwashed sheep, sad. Hiw the F do you know what God is or is not willing to do?? Have you met God? Were you given this info first hand? NO, you are a brainwashed sheep uncapable of thinking for yourself.

I wouldn't call him brainwashed, he just believes different from you. This is a GOOD thing!

Debate is healthy and good! Especially in bodybuilding. A NICE deviation from looking at pics of half naked men!