Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet For Cutting - Page 393

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

oh my fault i thought it was 1g carb 1g sugar, it is 2g carbs,

Yea 2g carbs for 2 scoops, not too bad considering the taste is out of this world.

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CantLoseFat

Yea 2g carbs for 2 scoops, not too bad considering the taste is out of this world.

2 carbs per scoop, 4 carbs for 2 scoops
add 2 tbsp of PB the that and youre at 8g carbs. no bueno for me

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

2 carbs per scoop, 4 carbs for 2 scoops
add 2 tbsp of PB the that and youre at 8g carbs. no bueno for me

Neg m8 it is 1G per scoop looking at the label right now

mcjerjer · 11-04-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CantLoseFat

Because thats what my macros come out to be.

I was looking at those numbers again. Why does your 6oz chicken only have 1g of fat?

hammer54 · 11-04-2009, 01:38 PM

K- been browsing this tread for a bit. I just started the diet on monday.

Just to give you guys some background on me. Played football in high school was suppose to play college ball and blew my knee out! So after fixing it i just went to college and competeted in powerlifting events. Got crazy strong for my age- but gained a lot of fat ( im an endomorph)

A couple years back i decided that lifting crazy amounts of weight was not what i wanted to do any more and wanted to be more fit and healthy. So i decided to cut but i wanted to keep as much stregnth as possible. i started a high protein moderate carb but healthy carb diet.

Did great on it ( dropped from around 275 to 205 with not much strenght lose- beleive it or not)

For the last 6 months I have been hovering around the 205 to 210 mark so I hit a platue.

I really want to stay around the weight i am now or maybe 10-15 pounds or so lighter and just concentrate on getting rid of body fat and helping me keep my muscle. So I think this diet will be a really good shock to my body to start burning up the fat.

So i am about 3 days in and I feel really great mostly. get a little tired from time to time but it is no big deal at all. My big problem is i hate long low intesity cardio but i am going to try it out. But i got to where i am today by running around 3 miles a day/ 5 times a week so if the low intesity doesnt work I will most likely just start running again. i dunno!

Anybody else incorporate higher intesity cardio instead of the low intesity

Rookie_Mistake · 11-04-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hammer54

Anybody else incorporate higher intesity cardio instead of the low intesity

no one does HIIT! that would be waving goodbye to ya muscle.
but a few of us jog instead of walking, with heart rate around 150 or so

hammer54 · 11-04-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rookie_Mistake

no one does HIIT! that would be waving goodbye to ya muscle.
but a few of us jog instead of walking, with heart rate around 150 or so

what speed do you jog at- I usually run anywhere between 7-8.5 mph until i complete around 3 miles or so

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjerjer

I was looking at those numbers again. Why does your 6oz chicken only have 1g of fat?

I buy the tenderloins. So it is like .5g fat per 4 oz raw.

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CantLoseFat

Neg m8 it is 1G per scoop looking at the label right now

AllTheWhey Cinnamon Bun?

I just checked my label.. 2g per scoop! :P

What are you using?

jbauto1 · 11-04-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

yeah the carbs and sugar bother me in the cinnamon bun

hey Goon, you seem to be the resident pro on this diet these days. Is Optimum Nutrtion Whey w/ 3grams carbs per 24 Grams of protein, not a good source for Whey?

Also, I thought from reading your previous post that Cinammon Bun and Cake Batter All-the-Whey were what you have been using?

mcjerjer · 11-04-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CantLoseFat

I buy the tenderloins. So it is like .5g fat per 4 oz raw.

really? What is a chicken tenderloin? I basically just eat half of a chicken's full breast which is about 250grams - 8oz. and in fit day, I get almost 8 grams of fat, 288 calories.

I just want to make sure all the info fit day is giving me is right as I was shocked when I looked at your pic.

Rookie_Mistake · 11-04-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbauto1

hey Goon, you seem to be the resident pro on this diet these days. Is Optimum Nutrtion Whey w/ 3grams carbs per 24 Grams of protein, not a good source for Whey?

Also, I thought from reading your previous post that Cinammon Bun and Cake Batter All-the-Whey were what you have been using?

ON isn't the best.

if you are following something similar to the diet outlined in the OP, 2 scoops of ON = 6 grams of carbs which has potential to kick you out of ketosis in one sitting.
I suppose if you were having only one scoop it would be fine, but it still adds up over the day

Rookie_Mistake · 11-04-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hammer54

what speed do you jog at- I usually run anywhere between 7-8.5 mph until i complete around 3 miles or so

i'm not sure, im an australian and don't deal with miles.
i just jog at a comfortable pace around the neighborhood

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

AllTheWhey Cinnamon Bun?

I just checked my label.. 2g per scoop! :P

What are you using?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/al...y/isolate.html

Unless there is some other type of all the whey cinnamon bun.

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjerjer

really? What is a chicken tenderloin? I basically just eat half of a chicken's full breast which is about 250grams - 8oz. and in fit day, I get almost 8 grams of fat, 288 calories.

I just want to make sure all the info fit day is giving me is right as I was shocked when I looked at your pic.

The tenderloin is an especially tender cut of meat due to its infrequent use. following the general rule that muscles closer to the spine are more tender as they are not exercised as frequently as others.

this is located under the breast of the chicken and will be weakly attached to the breast when the chicken breast is removed. it will be long and slender with dimensions comparable to a finger.

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbauto1

hey Goon, you seem to be the resident pro on this diet these days. Is Optimum Nutrtion Whey w/ 3grams carbs per 24 Grams of protein, not a good source for Whey?

Also, I thought from reading your previous post that Cinammon Bun and Cake Batter All-the-Whey were what you have been using?

Haha, I went through a 5lb of cake batter (AMAZING!) I am finishing my 5lbs of Cinnamon Bun (also AMAZING!) Both work fine for this diet.
I've also tried
10lbs Scivation Whey Chocolate
2lbs Sytrax Nectar Carrbian Cooler
2lbs Sytrax Nectar Twisted Cherry
5lbs ATW Mint Chocolate
5lbs ATW Chocolate
5lbs
Sample of MGN chocolate

The only ones I would buy again are MGN, ATW Chocolate and Scivation whey.

The cinnamon bun I am eating has 2 carbs but I think they make a cinnamon bun isolate with 1 carb.

Any protein with under 2 or less carbs per scoop should work fine. You WILL be able to use that ON whey but it is not ideal and may make it harder for you to stay under 40g carbs.

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CantLoseFat

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/al...y/isolate.html

Unless there is some other type of all the whey cinnamon bun.

ahha there is, I got the concentrate its like 5$ cheaper. Thanks for the link!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/al...eyprotein.html

I am going to try there espresso whey isolate off their website since BB doesnt carry it.

CantLoseFat · 11-04-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

ahha there is, I got the concentrate its like 5$ cheaper. Thanks for the link!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/al...eyprotein.html

I am going to try there espresso whey isolate off their website since BB doesnt carry it.

Ahh man def let me know how that tastes, that sounds great with peanut butter. I need to order a 10 pounder of scivation. I go through protein so fast on this diet lol.

jbauto1 · 11-04-2009, 02:28 PM

I am using the Isolate, is the concentrate better tasting? The Cinnamon Bun and the Cake batter aren't as good as I thought from reading the thread. I think ON Chocolate Malt is the best tasting of them all. But it does have the additional carbs.

cheece2007 · 11-04-2009, 06:49 PM

i'm gona go on this diet later in 2010... would it be possible to go from 13% bf to below 9% BF in 8 weeks or would i need more time.

mcjerjer · 11-04-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cheece2007

i'm gona go on this diet later in 2010... would it be possible to go from 13% bf to below 9% BF in 8 weeks or would i need more time.

I read that someone said it was possible to lose 1% bodyfat every week on this diet...

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 07:16 PM

im trying all pork this week to see how it goes.

im already down to precheat weight so I should be able to tell how it does. I bought breakfast sausage and ground pork!

also trying 75% reduced fat cheese. Kind of gross.

astrosfan · 11-04-2009, 07:42 PM

Can someone hook it up with a nice workout for this diet please. Also would hitting the bodypart twice a week on this diet be a good idea or bad

I have been doing this but am up for a switch.

M-Shoulders
T- Biceps/Back
w- Off
T- Legs
F- Chest/Triceps

laxster · 11-04-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cheece2007

i'm gona go on this diet later in 2010... would it be possible to go from 13% bf to below 9% BF in 8 weeks or would i need more time.

I went from ~14 to ~10 in 5 weeks. You should be able to do that.

BTW can you guys list some meats that don't need to be cooked and are easily prepared?

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by laxster

I went from ~14 to ~10 in 5 weeks. You should be able to do that.

BTW can you guys list some meats that don't need to be cooked and are easily prepared?

you can buy precooked chicken from Purdue
tuna
roast beef
turkey
pastrami
chicken
bologna
beef jerky (homemade)

ill try to think of more.

edit: corned beef!

laxster · 11-04-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

you can buy precooked chicken from Purdue
tuna
roast beef
turkey
pastrami
chicken
bologna
beef jerky (homemade)

ill try to think of more.

edit: corned beef!

Thanks, I need to stop by the deli and get some of that. Would make my life a lot easier.

Rookie_Mistake · 11-04-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

you can buy precooked chicken from Purdue
tuna
roast beef
turkey
pastrami
chicken
bologna
beef jerky (homemade)

ill try to think of more.

edit: corned beef!

whats the cost of the pre-cooked stuff compared to buying it raw then cooking yourself?

Goon44 · 11-04-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rookie_Mistake

whats the cost of the pre-cooked stuff compared to buying it raw then cooking yourself?

significant. probably double.

Rookie_Mistake · 11-04-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goon44

significant. probably double.

im going to stick to buying then cooking lol.

When i do the protein and no fat days, am i supposed to still keep my protein the same or up it a bit?

mcjerjer · 11-04-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rookie_Mistake

im going to stick to buying then cooking lol.

When i do the protein and no fat days, am i supposed to still keep my protein the same or up it a bit?

can someone explain these alternate diets. I really don't understand them at all.