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on MD forums shawn ray mentioned that wolf's contract was expiring before the Olympia and dennis was stalling.
MD didnt drop him, weider didnt poach him... he just saw out his contract and switched camps.
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11-03-2009, 08:43 AM
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Signing with Weider is probably the only way he'll place higher in the 'O', good move.
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11-03-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CanuckTank
So every bb'r coming in underweight, smaller than usual and flat is shredded?
And you are using a dead bbr as a comparison to wolf as proof?....
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he was shredded and flat, the two are not mutually exclusive
look at these glutes and hams and then try to justify saying he wasn't shredded
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11-03-2009, 09:46 AM
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elbows too pointy/10
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11-03-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian_B
he was shredded and flat, the two are not mutually exclusive
look at these glutes and hams and then try to justify saying he wasn't shredded
[img]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/mielke_2008_olympia_review_p.jpg[img]
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i think thats the 1st time i have ever agreed with you
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11-03-2009, 04:58 PM
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i think thats the 1st time i have ever agreed with you
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11-03-2009, 05:37 PM
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^cowabunga! 
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11-03-2009, 08:10 PM
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11-03-2009, 08:22 PM
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good move for him , weider athletes get paid
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11-03-2009, 08:46 PM
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Remember this photo folks, it's gonna happen soon!
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He is gonna sign with Muscletech?
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11-03-2009, 11:20 PM
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Be careful with whatever you respond with since he scares people. Watch out brother or he'll do it to you too.
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11-04-2009, 12:51 AM
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wolf sucks balls doesnt know how to diet.
wolf needs to:
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11-04-2009, 12:55 AM
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That's rough dawg.
Just needs to get his act together and come in 2007 styles. Be awesome seeing him gunning for a top 10 finish in 2010.
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11-04-2009, 12:59 AM
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You obviously have no clue what shreded means. Munzer was flat as hell but shreded to the bone. And Wolf has come in shreded before, Keystone classic is a perfect example. In 08' his conditioning was great, just didn't fill out properly.
I was wondering why Bob Chic had such gracious words about Wolf on the last PBW, now it makes sense.
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Yes, Munzer was flat but shredded. Wolf was flat....and that's about it. His conditioning was just "alright" compared to the other top guys.
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11-04-2009, 01:00 AM
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That's rough dawg.
Just needs to get his act together and come in 2007 styles. Be awesome seeing him gunning for a top 10 finish in 2010.
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hes gonna get injured and hurt himself if he doesnt /himself. his lower back is so lagging and weak that it wont be able to support the heavy weight in big compound movements like squats and deadlifts and hell tear a muscle rlly bad. it will be like that one photoshoot where the weight fell on that guy squating. terrible man, just terrible. wouldnt wanna see that happen to the german fella.
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11-04-2009, 02:07 AM
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besides the sheer mass and width of his back and his somewhat decently developed wheels, the main idea of Wolf's rear lat spread just doesn't impress me. there is too much "nothing" going on between his glutes and lats. you can say either his torso is simply too long or his lat's attach too high.
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11-04-2009, 08:23 AM
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my fav wolf pic
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11-04-2009, 10:17 AM
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my fav wolf pic
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definitely one of his better poses. His hams look great in that pic.
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11-04-2009, 11:12 AM
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His condiotning was just not alright it was great. Someone post the most muscular from him finals in 2008 Olympia. It was famous in here like couple of months ago lol.
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11-04-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorky88
His condiotning was just not alright it was great. Someone post the most muscular from him finals in 2008 Olympia. It was famous in here like couple of months ago lol.
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If your talking about this pic its from the 2007 Olympia not 2008.
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11-04-2009, 02:20 PM
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11-04-2009, 04:32 PM
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His condiotning was just not alright it was great. Someone post the most muscular from him finals in 2008 Olympia. It was famous in here like couple of months ago lol.
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When you stand him next to the likes of Phil, Dexter and Silvio you'll see his conditioning isn't great.
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11-04-2009, 04:57 PM
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When you stand him next to the likes of Phil, Dexter and Silvio you'll see his conditioning isn't great.
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Yes, Munzer was flat but shredded. Wolf was flat....and that's about it. His conditioning was just "alright" compared to the other top guys.
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in leanness and dryness he was on par with the top guys, I'd consider that shredded
sure he doesn't have the same kind of muscle attachments/separation, but in terms of how hard he was and not what's down to muscle shape, he was right up there
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11-04-2009, 08:11 PM
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only pics i see him being on par in conditioning/separation there are rear lat spread and side relaxed. I guess in the back double biceps as well, but the thickness advantage others have on him with the same or better conditioning makes his back not look as separated by comparison cus the muscle doesn't jump out the same compared to the other guys.
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11-04-2009, 08:15 PM
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he was shredded and flat, the two are not mutually exclusive
look at these glutes and hams and then try to justify saying he wasn't shredded
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Shredded in my mind is looking great and full and still in great condition.
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This thread has suddenly turned into AWESOMENESS.
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only pics i see him being on par in conditioning/separation there are rear lat spread and side relaxed. I guess in the back double biceps as well, but the thickness advantage others have on him with the same or better conditioning makes his back not look as separated by comparison cus the muscle doesn't jump out the same compared to the other guys.
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separation wise he doesn't hold up, but being ripped is a different thing and he stands right up there in that area
he was shredded.
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Shredded in my mind is looking great and full and still in great condition.
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interesting personal definition. but most of us use it to mean maximum leanness and dryness, with "fullness" and "looking great" being irrelevant. I can understand "conditioning" being a more catch all term though. I've never heard anyone claim Andreas Munzer wasn't shredded when he looked far from full. (extreme but entirely relevant example)
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separation wise he doesn't hold up, but being ripped is a different thing and he stands right up there in that area
he was shredded.
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Even taking into account his chest ain't as separated, he is still not shredded. He doesn't have striations all over, like an anatomy chart. That's what I consider shredded, and few people get like that. Dexter, Darrem when he's on, Phil, and Branch get shredded. Wolf was in alright condition compared to the top guys, but definitely not excellent/shredded.
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What Stealth just said.
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Shredded in my mind is looking great and full and still in great condition.
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Like someone else said, you can be shredded & full, or shredded & flat..
Munzer was shredded but I dont think he was ever full, he was flat most of the time.
The closest Wolf has come to being shredded was 08. He didnt have the striations in his glutes in 07., but he had them in 08. He was full in 07 but flat in 08. We have yet to see him both shredded & full.
Once you remove the fat & water, your muscles can still hold a range of glycogen quantity. Too little & you will be flat, too much & you risk the water spilling over out of the muscle cells & under your skin. But its still a 'shredded' condition across the range.
Wolf doesnt have much separation in his chest, but thats his genetics. Yates never had striations in his chest either, but was hard & grainy, its genetics..
Just coz there have been flat shredded guys, doesnt mean anyone that is called 'shredded' MUST be flat &/or dead the friggin morgue..
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