if you lift in the morning, GTFIH...

[Beejis60]

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Any insight as to why some of us crash so hard on 1,3 D?

Are there ways to get around it?

I don't know why you would crash, but I can recommend a way around it... you won't like it though

[Sissy Squat Scott]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

dont eat before you work out

lolwutpa

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Any insight as to why some of us crash so hard on 1,3 D?

Are there ways to get around it?

I never crash from it. I have high tolerance. Take more and take it often.. it might go away... haha.

[taze13]

I see some reps and experianced lifters saying they lift on empty stomaches in this thread, but I always though when you wake up you're in a catabolic state since you haven't had anything to eat for 7-8 hours.

Yeah, this is broscience I picked up on the net, so if this is false I would love it, since I work 11-7 and I HATE working out at night.

Reason I don't work out before work is that I can't eat anything the first 3+ hours I wake up, even if I go to bed hungry.

Any input appreciated.

[taze13]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

dont drink the protein drink before. just stick with the intrabolic. have your aftershake though

when you put food in your stomach u mess up all the adrenaline and everything that gets you going in the morning. a light workout drink is enuff to provide the anti-catabolic benefits and blood sugar support. 15 grams protein/aminos and 25 g carbs is plenty, and make it dilute

Answered my question. Next time I'll read the whole thread before I ask something.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by taze13

I see some reps and experianced lifters saying they lift on empty stomaches in this thread, but I always though when you wake up you're in a catabolic state since you haven't had anything to eat for 7-8 hours.

Yeah, this is broscience I picked up on the net, so if this is false I would love it, since I work 11-7 and I HATE working out at night.

Reason I don't work out before work is that I can't eat anything the first 3+ hours I wake up, even if I go to bed hungry.

Any input appreciated.

thats why a carb / amino acid drink works so well. very light and gets in your system quickly. should be timed so it gets into your system during the workout, which means start drinking just before lifting and continue while working out

[donoh]

Just used a few of these tips for one of my first fasted AM workouts before work. It was absolutely sick. Clearshot Concentrate + Thermogum also helped

Thanks for all the tips as I will be sticking to AM workouts now.

[Big_Spaz]

Originally Posted by donoh

Just used a few of these tips for one of my first fasted AM workouts before work. It was absolutely sick. Clearshot Concentrate + Thermogum also helped

Thanks for all the tips as I will be sticking to AM workouts now.

Glad to hear it man. I hope you stick with it and it works out for you.


One converted ... how many more do we have to go yet?






-Spaz

[getbustered]

Just had a night workout due to work requirements early this morning, but will be back in the gym at 5:30am tomorrow.

[Supplement-Slut]

Never lifted in the early AM, but it must be pretty nice w/ no crowd at all.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Originally Posted by Mfusick

agree 100%

My body does not work as good in the morning- even with heavy stims and proper light cardio warmup will heart hits 140bpm before lifting.

Mornings sucks. Working out in the morning sucks.

I get almost no results from it-

After work -5:30pm is my favorite time. I drink some clearshot- take some sups... make sure I recently ate like 1 or 2 hours before- the workout is better than anything I get from the morning.

When I push hard- I go home and have no trouble sleeping. Night for me is better too.

Repped for not being brain dead.

[Psylence]

Guess it depends if your a morning person, personally I do better in the mornings because after a full day of work motivation is down.

[ProWrestleFan]

Sometimes I lift in the morning, and it does suck. Usually I try to lift in the evening, right before I go to bed actually.

[David223]

What about casein before bed? If you are afraid of being in a catabolic state when you wake, consume a slow digesting protein and aminos. The human body doesn't break stuff down that fast at night, hence why doctors used to claim it is bad to eat before bed. Now we of course know that is a load of crap. I don't have a casein supp, just wondering if that might be a good idea? I usually eat a lot of chicken or tuna or some rich lean protein source before bed when I know I'm going to get up and lift. Then just wake up to your PWO and lift!

[Big_Spaz]

Originally Posted by David223

What about casein before bed? If you are afraid of being in a catabolic state when you wake, consume a slow digesting protein and aminos. The human body doesn't break stuff down that fast at night, hence why doctors used to claim it is bad to eat before bed. Now we of course know that is a load of crap. I don't have a casein supp, just wondering if that might be a good idea? I usually eat a lot of chicken or tuna or some rich lean protein source before bed when I know I'm going to get up and lift. Then just wake up to your PWO and lift!

It does help in the sense that I never wake up starving. I'm hungry, but not stomach growling or anything.

I use NitroCore right before bed. And sleep about 6 hours.





-Spaz

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by David223

What about casein before bed? If you are afraid of being in a catabolic state when you wake, consume a slow digesting protein and aminos. The human body doesn't break stuff down that fast at night, hence why doctors used to claim it is bad to eat before bed. Now we of course know that is a load of crap. I don't have a casein supp, just wondering if that might be a good idea? I usually eat a lot of chicken or tuna or some rich lean protein source before bed when I know I'm going to get up and lift. Then just wake up to your PWO and lift!

My current routine goes somthing like this:

Whey Shake Just before I leave work 5pm.
Animal Pak Vitamins with the whey shake
go home...change for gym

Animal Stak
Clearshot
Nitric Fuel or BodyForge somtimes

Sizeon or greenmag /Extend BCAA or PurpleWrath Intraworkout + little Ribose

15 min Post workout - 2 scoops ProComplex in 1% Milk with some Ribose sugar or a bananna.

45 minutes post workout - Taco Bell- about 15$ worth.

Short answer = No not worried about going catabolic. I consume 75 grams protien + some carbs - easily digested whey post workout -then about another 75-100 grams protien in some dirty food that is slower to digest.

[Big_Spaz]

Originally Posted by Mfusick

My current routine goes somthing like this:

Whey Shake Just before I leave work 5pm.
Animal Pak Vitamins with the whey shake
go home...change for gym

Animal Stak
Clearshot
Nitric Fuel or BodyForge somtimes

Sizeon or greenmag /Extend BCAA or PurpleWrath Intraworkout + little Ribose

15 min Post workout - 2 scoops ProComplex in 1% Milk with some Ribose sugar or a bananna.

45 minutes post workout - Taco Bell- about 15$ worth.

Short answer = No not worried about going catabolic. I consume 75 grams protien + some carbs - easily digested whey post workout -then about another 75-100 grams protien in some dirty food that is slower to digest.

Taco Bell post workout EVERY day?

Man dude you may have me beat. I only hit TB about 3 times per week.





-Spaz

[I OuTsiDeR I]

I have had some of my best lifts as of late on an empty stomach in the morning. Its mostly because i woke up late so i didn't take anything. However towards the end of the workout you begin to seriously feel the need for some type of energy that you don't have and you are running on empty.

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by Big_Spaz

Taco Bell post workout EVERY day?

Man dude you may have me beat. I only hit TB about 3 times per week.

-Spaz

Haha. Sometimes Mcdonalds or Arby's but most times Taco Bell.

That stuff makes you grow!

When I am cutting (now) I don't do the fast food though... I do a casien or NitroCore 24 shake 45min after my whey shake or do the tuna/chicken thing (tired of that)

[Big_Spaz]

Originally Posted by Mfusick

Haha. Sometimes Mcdonalds or Arby's but most times Taco Bell.

That stuff makes you grow!

When I am cutting (now) I don't do the fast food though... I do a casien or NitroCore 24 shake 45min after my whey shake or do the tuna/chicken thing (tired of that)

I'll be hitting TB tonight. No way I'm passing up a free Black Jack Taco.





-Spaz

[Beejis60]

Originally Posted by Big_Spaz

I'll be hitting TB tonight. No way I'm passing up a free Black Jack Taco.

it sucks.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by David223

What about casein before bed? If you are afraid of being in a catabolic state when you wake, consume a slow digesting protein and aminos. The human body doesn't break stuff down that fast at night, hence why doctors used to claim it is bad to eat before bed. Now we of course know that is a load of crap. I don't have a casein supp, just wondering if that might be a good idea? I usually eat a lot of chicken or tuna or some rich lean protein source before bed when I know I'm going to get up and lift. Then just wake up to your PWO and lift!

there is no rule saying one cannot raid the fridge at 230 am either

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

there is no rule saying one cannot raid the fridge at 230 am either

That is a trade secret PA- I have a patent pending on it...

[David223]

LOL, and I thought I was bad eating taco truck burritos all the time... well only 1-2 times a week...(or day)

[donoh]

No one else at the gym this morning to start the week. 1 person showed up. Gotta love it

[Big_Spaz]

My gym was pretty full this morning. Bunch of old retired people camping out on the machines.


Good thing it was Deadlift day (back) so I was over in the free weight area. I hate old people with nothing to do but hog up machines.






-Spaz

[Felonist]

Originally Posted by Big_Spaz

My gym was pretty full this morning. Bunch of old retired people camping out on the machines.


Good thing it was Deadlift day (back) so I was over in the free weight area. I hate old people with nothing to do but hog up machines.






-Spaz

LOL at this.... no one ever comes in when I am at the gym.... if they are they usually doing elliptical...

but there are these 3 or 4 old russian guys - i mean old like maybe 70's to 80's... Yoda lookin mofos... and I luve em and give them props - they come in with their lifting belts and do dead lifts and clean and presses.... granted they use the fixed barbells so they dont bother me.... but i gotta give em props

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by donoh

No one else at the gym this morning to start the week. 1 person showed up. Gotta love it

No one is ever in my gym it just opened. It is like a private gym so far... Much better than my old gym. Everything is new... love that.. with the charger docks on the machines for my Ipod.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Any insight as to why some of us crash so hard on 1,3 D?

Are there ways to get around it?

Bump

[Tyler44]

You guys have me wanting to lift early. Ive been going about 11am, but now wanna try like 7-8. Dont know how early my gym opens though, hrmm.....