jack3d discontinuation? - Page 3

VaughnTrue · 11-03-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

No, but I will not argue with the comparison.

Jacob,

is Jack3d being discontinued or no?

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iForce Dave

FWIW: a moderate dose of caffeine with that amount of geranium DOES NOT IMO produce what jack3d does. I think the geranium is a lot higher, I do not believe its because of schizandrol, and I do not have an opinion as to whether or not other compounds are in there that we dont know about... not my place to make that judgement.

I give you permission

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

Jacob,

is Jack3d being discontinued or no?

You can go buy it anywhere and Fruit punch is coming soon....

We are removing the theophylline and increasing the creatine per serving.

Theophylline did not make much of a difference in the formula.

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by homerunrbi

This. Jack3d looks like a good product on paper but after the prime bs and all of the bogus claims they make from time to time really sets me off. Wouldn't really surprise me basically.

Examples of the claims I don't believe:
-That prime is supposed to be the next best thing and will increase your gains like crazy. Even thought tribulus has been debunked now as just a penis pill.
-All of the blatant shill logs that were happening. Example: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...s+prime&page=8 Look at how the last 2 pages are of recently joined and 1 post people that haven't filled in any information on there bodyspace. If you look around at all the prime threads its in a lot of them.
-The fact they claim on there website they make there own raws "At USPLabs, we simply didn?t trust many sources of raw materials, so we decided to take matters into our own hands. Since many of our products are natural and organic, we decided to control growing, harvesting and cultivating the raw materials.

We utilize land with nutrient-filled fertile soil native to our herbs. This way, we can control the quality and potency of the growing herbs!" I don't know where they got the invest money to start up such a farm. Farms aren't cheap, especially if your supposed to be harvesting medical ingredients. They use to have a picture of a aerial shot of a farm on there website that was atleast a multi-million dollar property.

Multi-million dollar property...well, yes if we exported that land from India to the USA.

Until you have done business in India and understand the value of the American dollar, you would not understand the simplicity of that statement.

We have purchased much much more land since that marketing was released. Beyond my involvement in purchasing raw material, I am also investing in India.

VaughnTrue · 11-03-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

You can go buy it anywhere and Fruit punch is coming soon....

We are removing the theophylline and increasing the creatine per serving.

Theophylline did not make much of a difference in the formula.

awesome! glad to hear it for you guys. as ive said numerous times in this thread, well done on the product.

iForce Dave · 11-03-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

I give you permission

Haha, no I was just making it clear that WASNT what I was saying. I didnt want people to look at it and assume I was hinting to that.

If I had to venture a guess it would be the Geranium is pretty high, high dosed geranium works wonders.

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iForce Dave

Haha, no I was just making it clear that WASNT what I was saying. I didnt want people to look at it and assume I was hinting to that.

If I had to venture a guess it would be the Geranium is pretty high, high dosed geranium works wonders.

Cool.

We all know that these rumors are amazing for business. Often more times than not, the supplement is tainted...

VaughnTrue · 11-03-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

Cool.

We all know that these rumors are amazing for business. Often more times than not, the supplement is tainted...

50mg/scoop on the geranium? only thing i can even guess as to how its so strong

twistid1 · 11-03-2009, 03:12 PM

So then Jack3d will NOT give false positives for amphetamines or anything else? I am Active Duty and I've been hearing that Jack3d causes false positives which obviously can cause QUITE a major headache considering its a violation of the UCMJ.

I just picked up a tub but if its going to get me investigated then its not even worth it

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twistid1

So then Jack3d will NOT give false positives for amphetamines or anything else? I am Active Duty and I've been hearing that Jack3d causes false positives which obviously can cause QUITE a major headache considering its a violation of the UCMJ.

I just picked up a tub but if its going to get me investigated then its not even worth it

No it will not...

It only cause false positive when the competition is posting it online but in our REAL consumers no false postives....

USPlabs · 11-03-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

50mg/scoop on the geranium? only thing i can even guess as to how its so strong

Geranium has been on the market for years so there is another Co-superstar in that blend that feeds the effect......

dexterium · 11-03-2009, 05:49 PM

Jack3d is not discontinued.

evilsteve02 · 11-03-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dekd

Least there won't be anymore threads with people asking if it would be ok to add Jack3d to their stack

amen brother..

jonnyflores · 11-03-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dexterium

Jack3d is not discontinued.

Thank goodness. Just picked this up my first tub of Jack3d last Friday and absolutely love the stuff.

em-dubya · 11-03-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

You can go buy it anywhere and Fruit punch is coming soon....

We are removing the theophylline and increasing the creatine per serving.

Theophylline did not make much of a difference in the formula.

Is the fruit punch going to be after the formula change?

Num3n · 11-03-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by twistid1

So then Jack3d will NOT give false positives for amphetamines or anything else? I am Active Duty and I've been hearing that Jack3d causes false positives which obviously can cause QUITE a major headache considering its a violation of the UCMJ.

I just picked up a tub but if its going to get me investigated then its not even worth it

no it wont.

Rev 13:18 · 11-03-2009, 08:39 PM

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=117415681

Scroll down a bit and read PA's comments

chasinSKURT · 11-03-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev 13:18

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=117415681

Scroll down a bit and read PA's comments

Had nothing to do with amphetamines.

Rev 13:18 · 11-03-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

Had nothing to do with amphetamines.

Then what was it referring to?

shadar · 11-03-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

You can go buy it anywhere and Fruit punch is coming soon....

We are removing the theophylline and increasing the creatine per serving.

Theophylline did not make much of a difference in the formula.

Very interesting to see you say this now... you seemed to believe differently a month ago.

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Originally Posted by USPlabs

Why do you keep repeating that fallacy. With out a doubt the Caffiene and 1,3 plays a role but so does theophylline and schizandrol A(huge role actually).

So did the potency of theophylline change in the past month by chance?

giantbrandon · 11-03-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by usplabs

you can go buy it anywhere and fruit punch is coming soon....

We are removing the theophylline and increasing the creatine per serving.

Theophylline did not make much of a difference in the formula.

is it natural flavouring too

Mickfootie · 11-03-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ogeorgeko

because his age automatically makes his opinion null, right?

No not at all!
It amazes me how people can get on thier high horse so easily and read into things that aren't said.

shadar · 11-03-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickfootie

No not at all!
It amazes me how people can get on thier high horse so easily and read into things that aren't said.

To be fair it would be hard to read much else into the statement that was made. It seemed quite clear that was the intended point being made.

Mickfootie · 11-03-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shadar

To be fair it would be hard to read much else into the statement that was made. It seemed quite clear that was the intended point being made.

The point that was being made was basically saying that the statement made by him seemed to have been read from others and then copied. Not saying that the statement should be ignored because he is 16 but saying that he needs to look a little further than just reading other peoples comments and slating. The OP was asking if Jack3d was discontinued and he made the comment :

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This. Jack3d looks like a good product on paper but after the prime bs and all of the bogus claims they make from time to time really sets me off. Wouldn't really surprise me basically

and

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Examples of the claims I don't believe:
-That prime is supposed to be the next best thing and will increase your gains like crazy. Even thought tribulus has been debunked now as just a penis pill.
-All of the blatant shill logs that were happening. Example: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...s+prime&page=8 Look at how the last 2 pages are of recently joined and 1 post people that haven't filled in any information on there bodyspace. If you look around at all the prime threads its in a lot of them.
-The fact they claim on there website they make there own raws "At USPLabs, we simply didn?t trust many sources of raw materials, so we decided to take matters into our own hands. Since many of our products are natural and organic, we decided to control growing, harvesting and cultivating the raw materials

which IMO is irrelevant to the question being asked.

darkphase · 11-03-2009, 09:46 PM

lol well i got 2 bottles 2 weeks ago along with green mag =)

Glitcher · 11-03-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dexterium

Jack3d is not discontinued.

you know you prob would have made alot more sales if you didn't say that, was about to go grab 5 tubs

CaptMcClain · 11-03-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac_330

So what's his age matter? There's 14 year old kids that are smarter then 50 year olds

intelligence wise that could be true, however you have to factor in functional intelligence which is a combo of intellect/experience

so can a 14 or 16 old have more experience with stims than older folk? well lets hope not lol

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Originally Posted by ogeorgeko

because his age automatically makes his opinion null, right?

overall.. no

in general practice.. yes

why..well because many many under-aged, mis-informed, kids populate these forums vommiting out info they read some other idiot say

iForce Dave · 11-03-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptMcClain

why..well because many many under-aged, mis-informed, kids populate these forums vommiting out info they read some other idiot say

lolz

shadar · 11-03-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptMcClain

intelligence wise that could be true, however you have to factor in functional intelligence which is a combo of intellect/experience

so can a 14 or 16 old have more experience with stims than older folk? well lets hope not lol

He didn't question stims, he questioned the company itself based on claims it made and posted specific points as to why. So unless I'm missing something, his stim experience has nothing to do with it, does it?

I always find it odd when people, instead of refuting points, attack the person asking the questions/making points. USPlabs reps tend to do this quite often on these forums. It is not a very good strategy from a PR standpoint. Attacking anyone who asks critical questions is a good way to quickly lose potential customers. Reps should, if they have nothing nice to say, learn to shut up. Doing otherwise will only hurt their objective.

Supplement-Slut · 11-03-2009, 10:48 PM

LoL, it took only 3 pages to finally get the answer!!