Arnold's lifts

[Rsardinia]

So Arnold had pretty solid arms and an amazing chest. What were his best lifts like on flat and incline bench? I've never actually heard what most of his lifts were like I have with Ronnie Coleman. Anyone know? And possibly a video to accompany it?

[Aussie Made]

Not sure mate, ive seen a pic of him barbell rowning abou 300pounds, no wraps.
and off the edge of a bench

[MaximusPlatypus]

450lb flat bench I think

[FaceTheFacts]

[Audemars]

Originally Posted by FaceTheFacts

Great vid! I hadn't seen that one before. Arnold was into powerlifting back in the late 60's but after about '68, when he would've been 21, his focus shifted on developing quality instead of being purely massive or strong. At least that's what I interpret from what I've read about him. I remember seeing a clip where he deadlifted about 700 lbs and benched 440 or something like that and that would've been in roughly '67 or '68. Certainly he could've continued to get stronger if he'd chosen to.

[Litewatenatty]

i read in an older M & F magazine that he benched 500 at one point. not sure how legit it was but they had it in quotations indicating that it was his statement

[Zeneth]

Arnold benched heavy poundages for reps on flat and incline.





And of course, deadlifting with the smaller plates is more difficult.

[KevinSorbo]

1963 Olympic lifting competition. In an interview with Peter McGough (M&F, July 1997, p. 60), Arnold told of competing in a competition at a beer hall in Graz in early 1963. This was apparently Arnold?s first contest. He lifted 165 lbs overhead, beating his previous best of 150 lbs. It is not clear whether this was a jerk or a press.

1964 Styrian Junior weightlifting championships. Albert Busek?s article on Arnold (Kraftsport revue Nr. 30, Jan 1967) states that Arnold was the Steirischer Jugendmeister in the Autumn of 1964. The winning weight is given as 280 kg (616 lbs). However, the English version of Busek?s article (H&S 30th March 1967) claims a total of 705 lbs. Neither article is clear about which lifts were included.

1965 Austrian Olympic lifting championships. Arnold states in ?Education of a Bodybuilder? that before he was 18 he had won the heavyweight division of the Austrian Olympic lifting championships. Busek also wrote (Kraftsport revue Nr. 30; H&S 30th March 1967) that by the summer of 1965, Arnold ?occupied an undisputed first place in the list of Austrian weightlifters?. The impression given in ?Education of a Bodybuilder? was that this was Arnold?s last Olympic lifting competition.

The H&S article reported best lifts of, Press 264 lbs, Snatch 243 lbs and C&J 298 lbs. There was no suggestion that these were the lifts from the 1965 Austrian contest.

1966 International powerlifting championships. Results of the Internationale Meisterschaft Kraftdreikampf appeared in Kraftsport revue (Nr. 30, p. 36-37). Arnold won, Michelik Stanko was 2nd and Leo Pelekies 3rd. Arnold?s lifts were, Deadlift 250 kg, Bench 165 kg and Squat 170 kg. The original contest report gave the total as 585kg, Busek?s H&S article reported 1290 lbs.

1967 German powerlifting championships. Results appeared in Kraftsport revue Nr. 34 (p. 34-35). Arnold came 2nd to Georg Schipper, Klaus Schumann was 3rd. Arnold?s lifts were, Bench 170 kg (374 lbs), Squat 200 kg (440 lbs), Deadlift 280 kg (616 lbs). A photo of Arnold deadlifting at this event was published in FLEX (May 2005) but incorrectly dated as 1966. I have the results for the 1966 competition. Arnold did not compete, although he was one of the guest posers.

1967 Graz Paradise Keller lifting Championships. Wendy Leigh reported that Arnold lost to Helmut Cerncic. Apparently, Kurt Marnul, Karl Kainrath and Adolf Ziegner also competed.

1968 German powerlifting championships. A brief summary of the results was given in Kraftsport revue (Nr. 45, p. 38). These indicated that Arnold deadlifted 310 kg for a total of 725 kg. Full results were promised for issue nr. 46, which I don?t have. However, Thomas Klose has previously told us that the full results were later reprinted as, Squat 215 kg, Bench 200 kg and Deadlift 310 kg.
The impression given in ?Education of a Bodybuilder? was that this was Arnold?s last powerlifting competition.

Though 1968 he was 21 years old, I'm sure he was stronger in his prime, pretty sure he said he had a 500 bench at one time

[first_second]

Don't forget his beastly dumbell kick backs.

[ansatsuken]

before his Universe win:

@ 235

Full squats 430
Bench press 410
Curl 285
Deadlift 605
Three Olympic Lifts total 805
Press 265
Snatch 242
Clean and Jerk 300

[Gorky88]

I got a question. Why do smaller plates affect lifting in a bad way? Does it affect the balance somehow?

[barbarian_ben]

Originally Posted by Gorky88

I got a question. Why do smaller plates affect lifting in a bad way? Does it affect the balance somehow?

it would increase the range of motion

this only applies for deadlift, which was pictured

[Hyatt]

Originally Posted by ansatsuken

before his Universe win:

@ 235

Full squats 430
Bench press 410
Curl 285
Deadlift 605
Three Olympic Lifts total 805
Press 265
Snatch 242
Clean and Jerk 300

Seen Arnold lift more in videos/documentry and in lots photo's and magazines.
And I'm not sure about that curl weight you listed... I know Arnold cheat curled some heavy weight but would have to see him curling that 285lbs to believe it.

[first_second]

Originally Posted by Hyatt

Seen Arnold lift more in videos/documentry and in lots photo's and magazines.
And I'm not sure about that curl weight you listed... I know Arnold cheat curled some heavy weight but would have to see him curling that 285lbs to believe it.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Scroll down, 250lbs right there.

[joen270]

410 bench? I would have thought more. I spotted a dude at my gym who threw up 405. Only once, but still did it none the less.

[ansatsuken]

Originally Posted by Hyatt

Seen Arnold lift more in videos/documentry and in lots photo's and magazines.
And I'm not sure about that curl weight you listed... I know Arnold cheat curled some heavy weight but would have to see him curling that 285lbs to believe it.

BEFORE Universe so I'm assuming lifts would go up
yeah that's a lotta weight to curl...but the oak's arms....ridiculous!

[206AK]

I remember reading an article somewhere where Arnold himself stated that he was not that strong on Bench Pressing due to having long arms(ROM). I recall that he said that he could bench somewhere about 450lbs max. That was at his prime too.

Also in this book
it
never states that Arnold had a strong bench press. It tells of a lot of other guys who were benching 500/600lbs though in that time. From all the pictures, vids, and books, i'd say that he wasnt one of the strongest in bench pressing due to having long arms and never seeing him push that heavy weight on the bench press.

However, who gives a ****. Arnie is still the king.

[IwillBaMonster]

Originally Posted by 206AK

Also in this book
it
never states that Arnold had a strong bench press. It tells of a lot of other guys who were benching 500/600lbs though in that time. From all the pictures, vids, and books, i'd say that he wasnt one of the strongest in bench pressing due to having long arms and never seeing him push that heavy weight on the bench press.

However, who gives a ****. Arnie is still the king.

What's funny - his chest is still one of the greatest of all time..

[Cazzaye]

Woah curling 250lbs thats rediculous!

[Hyatt]

Originally Posted by Cazzaye

Woah curling 250lbs thats rediculous!

Ya, or it could be around 205lbs cause that easily be a 45 and 35 plate on each side maybe?
Thats pretty amazing thou.

[BEEFYCAKY]

Originally Posted by IwillBaMonster

What's funny - his chest is still one of the greatest of all time..

No it isn't. Put some decent legs and other lacking bodyparts on him and see how small his chest looks. It's not even close to todays builders.

[razmatazbaz]

Originally Posted by BEEFYCAKY

No it isn't. Put some decent legs and other lacking bodyparts on him and see how small his chest looks. It's not even close to todays builders.

not sure if serious

[spamy]

Originally Posted by BEEFYCAKY

No it isn't. Put some decent legs and other lacking bodyparts on him and see how small his chest looks. It's not even close to todays builders.

Arnold's chest (57") and right biceps are among the best in history.

[mariopolo]

[King_Breazy321]

Originally Posted by first_second

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Scroll down, 250lbs right there.

wow
that must have hurt his backa lil

still that pretty impressive

[Superfly1]

just spotted bottom right of that article

The biggest arms I have seen at close quarters belonged to Arnold 'S' reaching an incredible 22

[first_second]

Originally Posted by King_Breazy321

wow
that must have hurt his backa lil

still that pretty impressive

BTW I was trolling your thread young man, I know Coleman had bigger arms.

[IwillBaMonster]

Originally Posted by BEEFYCAKY

No it isn't. Put some decent legs and other lacking bodyparts on him and see how small his chest looks. It's not even close to todays builders.

Get off the crack..

[lee4]

aside from the '80, how much did arnold weigh on stage?

[Tyjim]

Originally Posted by spamy

Arnold's chest (57") and right biceps are among the best in history.

[img]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2138481&stc=1&d=125725 3772[img]

[img]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2138491&stc=1&d=125725 3780[img]

annnd his thighs...