dont like rippetoes?

[Slovakian_Pride]

"...bodybuilding is men on a stage in their underwear wearing brown paint showing other men their muscles. It is training for appearance only, and at the contest level requires a degree of vanity, narcissism, and self-absorption that I find distasteful and odd" (mark rippetoe)

yep his training gona make u the next mr.olympia

[shabbz]

lol i'm on rippetoes and i like it.

[IdoSquats]

You haven't even tried it. Give it like 2 weeks and then come back. Rippetoe's is mainly for strength gain. I'm doing it cos I'm a ****ing weakass but I can tell you that the program is working.

[Quarter Nelson]

Originally Posted by Jaxxed_Fibraz_

Don't listen to ANYONE on this site because they will all tell you the same "do rippetoes" "do 5x5" etc, if you take a look at the people who say it you'll realise 98% of them are small/weak, your best bet is to do a simple 3/4 day split which you can just add in what exercises you want on certain days, just google it if you don't know what that is.

HAHAHA

you're a funny guy



OP get a good routine with compound lifts.

[KRILLEN91]

Originally Posted by IdoSquats

You haven't even tried it. Give it like 2 weeks and then come back. Rippetoe's is mainly for strength gain. I'm doing it cos I'm a ****ing weakass but I can tell you that the program is working.

well if it works for you than stick with it but personally i think there's ways to get stronger and put on size a lot quicker than rippetoes.
Does the program work- yes
Is it the most efficient- probably not
but if your making progress why fix what's not broken

[7399martyn]

OP, we have similar stats. this is what you can achieve on rippetoes and 5x5 routines.

[IdoSquats]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

i started on rippetoe's workout last week and its definitely a great workout
though it may seem like its nothing, its actually a really good workout routine for strength
and im bumping up the weights a lot faster than doing splits
ALSO its good anyways, build up your strength for 9 weeks, then start doing splits where you can lift heavier than what you started with by body splits

This.

[AuroraPsycho28]

I didn't do Rippetoes and I'm doing pretty good.

[N4th4n]

Is it a good routine? Yes.
Why? It adds numbers to all your lifts and if you eat alot you will grow from it too.
In doing so it establishes a good base for you, and more weight + proper form means more growth.
Its a great routine, for any beginner in weight lifting and i'd recommend it to anyone who's starting out over any other routine.

[Achilles-]

Originally Posted by Jaxxed_Fibraz_

Don't listen to ANYONE on this site because they will all tell you the same "do rippetoes" "do 5x5" etc, if you take a look at the people who say it you'll realise 98% of them are small/weak, your best bet is to do a simple 3/4 day split which you can just add in what exercises you want on certain days, just google it if you don't know what that is.

age: 12
height:5'10"
weight: 1 pound

do rippletoes, that one guy got big on it in 4 months, russian guy ne one know who i'm talking about?

how can you get stronger on another program if rippletoes has you squatting 3x a week and adding 5-10 pounds a workout?

[EYS]

It's definitely not needed. If you don't want to do it, then do something else...

[dimasso69]

Originally Posted by Jaxxed_Fibraz_

People are acting like it's a big f*cking deal to add 5lbs onto your first movement each week?

It's not, just log what you did last week, and add more weight the following week, rippetoes doesn't magically allow that to happen, you can do that on ANY routine.

And teench, my problem with rippetoes that it's a sh*tty routine and everyone who does it is either

A. Weak
B. Doesn't look like they work out.

You can't possibly take your muscles to proper failure with sets of 3x5.

Do you feel that doing ripptoes for just 3 months out of a year is a bad thing? I like to do high volume every other time of the year but i hit a plateau so im doing ripptoes and it's helping, then after i go back to higher volume. Ripptoes is not a ****ty routine, but i wouldn't say it's the only routine you should do, or everyone will have sucess with it.

Originally Posted by Achilles-

age: 12
height:5'10"
weight: 1 pound

do rippletoes, that one guy got big on it in 4 months, russian guy ne one know who i'm talking about?

how can you get stronger on another program if rippletoes has you squatting 3x a week and adding 5-10 pounds a workout?

lol, you think those are his real stats? like srs?
And you can get stronger on other workout plans also, just me personally i found ripptoes to be the fastest for gaining strength, though i only have a year and a half under my belt.

Originally Posted by EYS

It's definitely not needed. If you don't want to do it, then do something else...

Thisss. But it can be done also, and it's not terrible..but not a necessity

[Staliyo_Lycan]

i'd recommend it, that's how i got my stats up to now from rippetoes

[PumpinPaddy]

Originally Posted by Jaxxed_Fibraz_

People are acting like it's a big f*cking deal to add 5lbs onto your first movement each week?

It's not, just log what you did last week, and add more weight the following week, rippetoes doesn't magically allow that to happen, you can do that on ANY routine.

And teench, my problem with rippetoes that it's a sh*tty routine and everyone who does it is either

A. Weak
B. Doesn't look like they work out.

you add 5+lbs per workout - many would argue that only doing a movement once per week, like on a split routine is a waste of time for a beginner because they can force an adaption and recover within 48-72 hours, so something like rippetoes allows you to progress quicker

im not saying its the only good programme out there, but for a beginner it is probably the best way to increase your squat, deadlift, press, bench and clean, and given the right diet you will gain good size

your arguement about people who do it being small and weak isnt really valid, b/c its a beginner routine, and i dont know of many 250lbs w/10% bf beginners

[Vise09]

I <3 Rippetoes.

Shame I busted my knee so I cant squat, dl powerclean or bbrow.

lol.

[burningNun]

Jaxxed's problem with Rippetoe's is caused by kids who hear about this amazing routine and think the routine is so amazing they don't have to work hard at it so every time the lifts slow down they deload or puss out and stall. Then of course someone in the teen section is telling them to bulk slowly or not bulk at all so they eat 3000 calories a day (but hey, they're eating "clean!"). Of course these kids never get big but they still feel like giving advice.

The guys on 70sbig.com who actually train in Rippetoe's gym, do the program like he says and eat like he says are all pretty big and strong. Not massive maybe but you couldn't say they look like they don't work out.

[adc123]

Rippetoes is very overrated. Its not amazing to add 5-10 lbs a workout to your squats, deadlifts or whatever when you first start out. You could do that on a split easily.

Also, who the **** wants to do rippetoes anyway. Looks like a boring no fun routine to me. Noone wants to squat 3 times a week and do zero isolation work. Thats crap.

Beginners should do a routine thats fun and figure out what works best for them. Improvise and just work hard untill you figure out what works best.

Rippetoes routine is not a great way to start bodybuilding. I seriously doubt any successful bodybuilders started on a proper squat based routine like that. They just go in the gym, lift heavy, do high volume and work out regularly. Simple formula really.

[NorwegianGuy92]

Originally Posted by adc123

Rippetoes is very overrated. Its not amazing to add 5-10 lbs a workout to your squats, deadlifts or whatever when you first start out. You could do that on a split easily.

Also, who the **** wants to do rippetoes anyway. Looks like a boring no fun routine to me. Noone wants to squat 3 times a week and do zero isolation work. Thats crap.

Beginners should do a routine thats fun and figure out what works best for them. Improvise and just work hard untill you figure out what works best.

Rippetoes routine is not a great way to start bodybuilding. I seriously doubt any successful bodybuilders started on a proper squat based routine like that. They just go in the gym, lift heavy, do high volume and work out regularly. Simple formula really.

Yeah, it's so retarded to actually get strong on the big compound movements before doing 20 sets for tris and bis.
No one said it's a magic routine, it just builds a great foundation, it can get you strong. No one is saying that it's the way to becoming the next Mr. Olympia.
Of course, you can get strong on a different routine as well. But tell me, who has more experience in weight lifting, and in training beginners? You, or Mark Rippetoe? Is Jim Wendler a stupid **** as well? Cause he said SS is a great book. So I think I'll keep doing SS...

[adc123]

Originally Posted by NorwegianGuy92

Yeah, it's so retarded to actually get strong on the big compound movements before doing 20 sets for tris and bis.
No one said it's a magic routine, it just builds a great foundation, it can get you strong. No one is saying that it's the way to becoming the next Mr. Olympia.
Of course, you can get strong on a different routine as well. But tell me, who has more experience in weight lifting, and in training beginners? You, or Mark Rippetoe? Is Jim Wendler a stupid **** as well? Cause he said SS is a great book. So I think I'll keep doing SS...

Never said that I would be doing 20 sets for tris and bis. I said that you can get strong on compound movements whilst adding in isolation to make the workouts more fun and you will gain a better physique from doing it.

Well, alot of the teens on this site that do all these beginner routines treat them like its a magic routine. Whenever someone asks for a routine they simply reply with "do rippetoes or starting strength".

And Mark Rippetoe, as experienced as he is was a powerlifter and strength coach!!!! (key point) He knows how to get strong but knows nothing when it comes to building an aesthetic bodybuilding physique.

[7399martyn]

Rippetoes has you squatting three times a week. the frequency of squatting increases strength more than squatting once a week, and stronger = bigger. Im pretty sure mark knows to get bigger, to need to become stronger.

[burningNun]

Originally Posted by 7399martyn

Rippetoes has you squatting three times a week. the frequency of squatting increases strength more than squatting once a week

It's incredible that people don't understand this.

[adc123]

Originally Posted by 7399martyn

Rippetoes has you squatting three times a week. the frequency of squatting increases strength more than squatting once a week, and stronger = bigger. Im pretty sure mark knows to get bigger, to need to become stronger.

I do know that. I work out bodyparts 2-3 times a week. I however do more volume a session than just one exercise per bodypart. That is my point. Theres no need to be squatting 3 times a week and having that as your only leg exercise. Sure, working out your legs 3 times a week is great but doing one exercise? Thats boring and unnecessary unless your a powerlifter.

What my point is, is that beginners looking to get into bodybuilding should have fun along the way and figure out things for themselves. Following a strict programme from the start is not fun and encourages people to become mindless idiots when it comes to weightlifting. Too many people follow their programmes down to the smallest detail. You need to learn to improvise and do what feels natural to you. I know alot of people on this site won't understand this concept but I hope some of you may. Mabye jaxxed? I dunno.

[NorwegianGuy92]

Originally Posted by adc123

Never said that I would be doing 20 sets for tris and bis. I said that you can get strong on compound movements whilst adding in isolation to make the workouts more fun and you will gain a better physique from doing it.

Well, alot of the teens on this site that do all these beginner routines treat them like its a magic routine. Whenever someone asks for a routine they simply reply with "do rippetoes or starting strength".

And Mark Rippetoe, as experienced as he is was a powerlifter and strength coach!!!! (key point) He knows how to get strong but knows nothing when it comes to building an aesthetic bodybuilding physique.

I guess they do so because it IS a good place to start from. You're never gonna get big if you're not strong, and SS is probably the quickest way to get strong.

Yes, SS might not be ideal for bodybuilding physique's, but it sure is way better than doing the splits that are in magazines. If you can lift a lot of weight on the big exercises, and you eat enough, I don't see how you can avoid gaining muscle as well (?)

[7399martyn]

Originally Posted by adc123

I do know that. I work out bodyparts 2-3 times a week. I however do more volume a session than just one exercise per bodypart. That is my point. Theres no need to be squatting 3 times a week and having that as your only leg exercise. Sure, working out your legs 3 times a week is great but doing one exercise? Thats boring and unnecessary unless your a powerlifter.

why would you do leg extensions and leg curls when you can only squat 225? you aint recruiting enough fibres to stimulate good growth.

[adc123]

Originally Posted by NorwegianGuy92

I guess they do so because it IS a good place to start from. You're never gonna get big if you're not strong, and SS is probably the quickest way to get strong.

Yes, SS might not be ideal for bodybuilding physique's, but it sure is way better than doing the splits that are in magazines. If you can lift a lot of weight on the big exercises, and you eat enough, I don't see how you can avoid gaining muscle as well (?)

But they don't know that. They are 150 lbs, with a **** load of bodyfat and weak. These are the majority of people that preach the benefits of starting strength or whatever.
I know there are some guys here with impressive physiques and strong that do these programmes so this is not meant to disrespect them. They are just rare.

Yer I agree with you there but i never said do the splits you see in magazines. They are ****.
There are a few concepts I agree with on these basic programmes and one is frequency. High frequency training is great but I think these basic programmes are too cautious when it comes to volume and exercise selection.

[adc123]

Originally Posted by 7399martyn

why would you do leg extensions and leg curls when you can only squat 225? you aint recruiting enough fibres to stimulate good growth.

When did I say anything about leg extensions and leg curls?

[NorwegianGuy92]

Originally Posted by adc123

But they don't know that. They are 150 lbs, with a **** load of bodyfat and weak. These are the majority of people that preach the benefits of starting strength or whatever.
I know there are some guys here with impressive physiques and strong that do these programmes so this is not meant to disrespect them. They are just rare.

Yer I agree with you there but i never said do the splits you see in magazines. They are ****.
There are a few concepts I agree with on these basic programmes and one is frequency. High frequency training is great but I think these basic programmes are too cautious when it comes to volume and exercise selection.

You can also add chins and dips after some weeks, to be done at the end of your workouts. So what exactly is it that you would do differently? More volume? More exercises? And why?

[White_Widow]

make sure u drink 1 gallon of whole milk a day or ur not doing it right.

[adc123]

Originally Posted by NorwegianGuy92

You can also add chins and dips after some weeks, to be done at the end of your workouts. So what exactly is it that you would do differently? More volume? More exercises? And why?

What I got best results from was doing each bodypart 2-3 times a week, splitting the bodyparts up according to how I feel on the day. If I feel I want to work legs and arms, il do it, if I want to work back and chest i'l do it. I however always work my weakest bodyparts first and do them 3 times a a week. I think this is just common sense. Want to improve a bodypart, do it more times a week with more volume, working weak points first. These are all things Arnold did come to think of it, and they worked.

And yer more exercises to mix things up and make it abit more fun to keep motivation high. I personaly have never followed a routine and I have tried. I will try one session and will end up doing somthing totally different. More volume and isolations to get a nice pump. I know a pump doesn't indicate growth but I work out for fun and I dont know anyone that doesn't enjoy getting a pump.

[cha0sblader]

Originally Posted by 7399martyn

OP, we have similar stats. this is what you can achieve on rippetoes and 5x5 routines.

Thats pretty legit right there.