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Old 04-01-2009, 11:01 PM   #91
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When people say someone cant be juicing cause they arent 300lbs ripped is just not even right...THere have been stories of golfers that took gear. Skinny track and field athelets have been known to take juice..You dont have to be huge while on gear at all..

My opinion...There are ZERO bbrs on stage that are 100% clean...BUt 100% of them lie about it...
Theres heaps of bodybuilders on stage who are 100% clean. Ur just jealous that you cant achieve that, so you acuse them of juicing.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:43 AM   #92
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Here , ronnie in one of his best shapes

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again, i am not saying that larry is bether or anything, i just say how larry's arms (which are smaller by few inches) appear almost as big as ronnies, because of their development
... L THE **** OL @ that picture.
It's funny how Larrys feet are almost twice the size of Ronnies there when Ronnie has absolutely massive humongous megasized superfeet in reality. Great scaling and choice of pictures!! Just because two pics are adjusted size wise it doesnt mean that they tell the true story. Cameralenses and **** makes all the difference in the world.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:48 AM   #93
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... L THE **** OL @ that picture.
It's funny how Larrys feet are almost twice the size of Ronnies there when Ronnie has absolutely massive humongous megasized superfeet in reality. Great scaling and choice of pictures!! Just because two pics are adjusted size wise it doesnt mean that they tell the true story. Cameralenses and **** makes all the difference in the world.
pretty much ^... those comparisons are always fail!
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pretty much ^... those comparisons are always fail!
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Never ceases to amaze me how a thread about someone claiming to be natty gets to be 4pgs or more. Who gives a shiz if they are or not, in my book a quality physique is just that no matter how it is achieved it still takes hard work and dedication. If someone lies about performance enhancement then its on them im not one to judge the next man.
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problem is that many people start juicing before reaching their "potential"
For a recreational bodybuilder I agree..... But if you think pros waited to reach their "genetic limit" before they hit the sauce your wrong.

Even in the picture you posted, both of those guys juiced in their teens guaranteed. Ruhl I 100 percent sure, Wolf im just pretty confidant, but either way they both juiced way before they hit their genetic max.
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I just saw this...

Clean, to put all this to rest, I am 100% natural and drug free...I have an offer to ALL who wish to take me up on it.

Send out the mobile test unit, any time, any place...now, this has to be at your own cost. Publish the results...as a matter of fact, I will publish them at every site I can possibly do so.

Correct...I have done no pressing movements for almost a decade. Bench press, biomechanically speaking, is about the worst thing you can do to yourself...heavy DB flyes cannot be replaced. I have to keep this short as I don't like to feed such comments as people usually don't take my offer and continue to "hate".

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Pretty impressive. He claims to be a natural and competes in natural comps which I believe for the most part, but reading some of his comments about training/supplementation make me call "BS." Not saying he isn't natural, but I think he is giving out false info on this regiment or is some kind of natural freak.







The fact that he says he does no pressing movements and little compound movements at all makes me suspect. IMO, the best movements to even gain muscle are the compound movements, not the isolation ones.

And how does he not even take creatine or some kind of muscle builder? Food is good, but it can only do so much.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:31 PM   #98
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Yes, PhD strong...just fyi, that video is simply pumping up...nothing heavy and 48 hours from hitting stage, so no heavy movements.

Not sure what you mean by the food statement...simply put, I eat all the solid food I can...I supplement only when I have to.

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lol strong biomechanics knowledge, the anterior delt is the secondary muscle being worked when doing flyes. Not to mention those flyes were ecactly like presses jus w/ a neutral grip.

Thanks for the comment...and try not to "hate" so much. I work my ass off for the physique I have...100% clean and natural. I have an open door for anyone to workout with me. You are welcome too!

also, food is THE muscle builder bro.
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165 to 220 is certainly attainable over 15 years...see teh testing option I have for everyone at the end of this...you are welcome to it too.

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Thanks for the comment, bro! Atr least someone out there is paying attention!!

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You gotta be seriously kidding....

most of the folks I've helped when they train with me, I get them focusin more on isolation movements since they're already familiar with the compounds and they grow. Also, not everyone takes creatine. I usually don't take it cus the effects aren't all that great. It's not a miracle-worker. It's only a slight difference. I guess it's more of a long-run type thing but lots of folks don't bother taking it since they figure the money spent on it could be spent on other things.
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You gotta be seriously kidding....

most of the folks I've helped when they train with me, I get them focusin more on isolation movements since they're already familiar with the compounds and they grow. Also, not everyone takes creatine. I usually don't take it cus the effects aren't all that great. It's not a miracle-worker. It's only a slight difference. I guess it's more of a long-run type thing but lots of folks don't bother taking it since they figure the money spent on it could be spent on other things.
AHAHAHAHHHAHAHA, sorry but this is just soooo ridiculous ......
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Pretty impressive. He claims to be a natural and competes in natural comps which I believe for the most part, but reading some of his comments about training/supplementation make me call "BS." Not saying he isn't natural, but I think he is giving out false info on this regiment or is some kind of natural freak.







The fact that he says he does no pressing movements and little compound movements at all makes me suspect. IMO, the best movements to even gain muscle are the compound movements, not the isolation ones.

And how does he not even take creatine or some kind of muscle builder? Food is good, but it can only do so much.
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Clean, to put all this to rest, I am 100% natural and drug free...I have an offer to ALL who wish to take me up on it.

Send out the mobile test unit, any time, any place...now, this has to be at your own cost. Publish the results...as a matter of fact, I will publish them at every site I can possibly do so.

Correct...I have done no pressing movements for almost a decade. Bench press, biomechanically speaking, is about the worst thing you can do to yourself...heavy DB flyes cannot be replaced. I have to keep this short as I don't like to feed such comments as people usually don't take my offer and continue to "hate".

Thanks for watching though!

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Yea, I don't think barbell bench is the best movement for chest either, dumbbell press and dumbbell incline press are IMO and cannot be replaced. Flyes seem to work for you, but IMO, the majority of people should stick to dumbbell presses in addition to cable and dumbbell flyes just because presses put the most tension on the chest in order to break down the muscle. DB does that without the massive strain on the shoulders like barbell ones do.

And I will take your word for it if you are natural. I'm not really one to jump and call unnatural and I have seen what people can do naturally, including myself. So that's good that you can serve as an example of what is possible naturally.

This pic in particular is amazing and still keeps some doubt in my mind about you being natural, but either way its a badass pic.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/...ppuser=1807971

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Yea, I totally agree with you on NO2 products which I think are garbage and I don't react to either really, but creatine is good for muscle hydration if you don't react to it (in addition to being a muscle builder/strength builder).
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I love the people on here who always cry juice. Do any of you follow Mr. Powell around on a daily basis? Do you watch his every move? Do you have surveillance of him? The answer to all of these questions is no. So please stop with the jealousy and hate. There's always gonna b someone bigger and better than you. Get over it. Get over yourself. Besides in the end if someones lying about it, they know it and will still be losers even if they win.
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I was watching a documentary today on steroids and I started thinking about how much it would suck if I got to a decent size naturally and was accused of steroid use. When you get someone like an ifbb pro saying they're natural obviously it's a lie, but when someone like this guy claims to be natural you have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Either way it's an awesome physique and he has done well if he is natural, I could only hope for something similar for myself in the long run drug-free.
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I dont understand why people think this guy isnt natural...? Great physique nontheless!!!
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I was watching a documentary today on steroids and I started thinking about how much it would suck if I got to a decent size naturally and was accused of steroid use. When you get someone like an ifbb pro saying they're natural obviously it's a lie, but when someone like this guy claims to be natural you have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Either way it's an awesome physique and he has done well if he is natural, I could only hope for something similar for myself in the long run drug-free.
Actually, if you are natural and some accuses you of taking steroids, you really don't get offended by it. You take it as the highest compliment someone can give you. If they feel that you are so big that you have to be taking steroids, you should shake their hand and say, Thanks!
It's when someone looks at you and says, "Yeah, he looks like he's natural", that's an insult!
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Actually, if you are natural and some accuses you of taking steroids, you really don't get offended by it. You take it as the highest compliment someone can give you. If they feel that you are so big that you have to be taking steroids, you should shake their hand and say, Thanks!
It's when someone looks at you and says, "Yeah, he looks like he's natural", that's an insult!
I know this, but I wouldn't want people putting a naturally earned physique down to steroids.
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Actually, if you are natural and some accuses you of taking steroids, you really don't get offended by it. You take it as the highest compliment someone can give you. If they feel that you are so big that you have to be taking steroids, you should shake their hand and say, Thanks!
It's when someone looks at you and says, "Yeah, he looks like he's natural", that's an insult!
that's funny considering it's coming from a user
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that's funny considering it's coming from a user
John has nearly 20 years clean and has been open about his past usage

Your an annoying little kid
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John has nearly 20 years clean and has been open about his past usage

Your an annoying little kid
It's a lot different when people lie about it. Honesty goes along way in any situation in life.
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Lucky you're not a judge then hey...?
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lol

the guy has lied over and over again about his use and often claims to be a lifetime natural

I wouldn't give him **** if he didn't claim to be the "natural Mr. Olympia"
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lol

the guy has lied over and over again about his use and often claims to be a lifetime natural

I wouldn't give him **** if he didn't claim to be the "natural Mr. Olympia"
Perhaps I have been reading a different John Hansen thread where he is open about previous usage
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Perhaps I have been reading a different John Hansen thread where he is open about previous usage
there's more to the story than that

he does guest poses and introduces himself as "Lifetime Natural Mr. Olympia" and other crap

when he competed regularly he was on anabolics, it's about that simple in my mind

hell Arnold has been natty for 20+ years... does he claim to be a natural athlete? hell no
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just go into John Hansen's thread and read it from the man himself - a year after he supposedly stopped using he was on the "natural" stage

notice he was still competing in the NPC

the WNBF and IFPA would not consider him natural

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there's more to the story than that

he does guest poses and introduces himself as "Lifetime Natural Mr. Olympia" and other crap

when he competed regularly he was on anabolics, it's about that simple in my mind

hell Arnold has been natty for 20+ years... does he claim to be a natural athlete? hell no
In short....

I have never seen him call himself Lifetime Natty....if thats the case clearly false

When he won the Natural O titles he was off for the required duration under fed rules

Arnold has not been natty for 20+ years ......sure he ran a few cycles for his movie roles minimum
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