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Old 10-29-2009, 06:31 PM   #541
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just like weight, body fat percentage is pointless when it truly comes to getting shredded...the judges don't caliper you, or weigh you...

forget what body fat percentage or weight you think you are or should be...the only weight you need to worry about is the one that you end up being when you have lines in your ass
LOL! Lines in your ass = stage ready lean. Didn't quite get em last time, but I will next time.
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:31 PM   #542
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Jim Cordova natural? My aas is he natural.
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:38 PM   #543
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Jim Cordova natural? My aas is he natural.
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I'm busting in the party rather late, but I believe he's natural. Just looks like a top tier natural pro and I hope to achieve that maturity and conditioning eventually.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:54 AM   #545
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Your still rationalizing as to why YOU THINK. You do not KNOW.
So, what would it take in your books to KNOW that he is indeed natural?

Jim could come out himself and say he's natural or even tell it to your face and you'd still probably say "well, he says he's natural because he's competed in this organization, been tested this many times, etc etc...", but he's still rationalizing as to why he's natural, and we don't really know for sure.

Like come on.

Do you believe this guy to be natural?...

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Old 10-30-2009, 11:02 AM   #546
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I think we would all agree that anyone who has ever taken HGH, prohormones, or AAS is not natural. Whether or not you believe someone when they tell you they are natural is up to you. The person being argued about is the only person who really knows whether or not they are natural. Pictures, drug tests, an organizations rules, etc, etc.. will never tell the truth in full.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:15 PM   #547
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So, what would it take in your books to KNOW that he is indeed natural?

Jim could come out himself and say he's natural or even tell it to your face and you'd still probably say "well, he says he's natural because he's competed in this organization, been tested this many times, etc etc...", but he's still rationalizing as to why he's natural, and we don't really know for sure.

Like come on.
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You can't just go assuming things about people because you rationalize in your head that they're likely true and claim to KNOW. I don't know and neither do you. Jim Cordova knows. That's it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #549
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You can't just go assuming things about people because you rationalize in your head that they're likely true and claim to KNOW. I don't know and neither do you. Jim Cordova knows. That's it.
So, using your really ignorant logic, I guess we should all not assume that IFBB pros are on gear..they could very well be all-natural...right? Only they know for sure, so nobody should rationalize that they use gear, correct? Because really, only they know for sure, right?

There comes a point where it just does not make sense, and common sense needs to be implemented...just a tad.
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