The EC (ephedrine/caffeine) FAQ Thread

[Hasshman]

I cycle EC once a week and get off it for a few weeks. Once a day - 200G C and 24g E.

One thing I noticed when I get of it, the first few days I feel my chest congested like I am about to have an Asthma attack.
Is this normal?

[Justin23454]

Originally Posted by Hasshman

I cycle EC once a week and get off it for a few weeks. Once a day - 200G C and 24g E.

One thing I noticed when I get of it, the first few days I feel my chest congested like I am about to have an Asthma attack.
Is this normal?

Never happened to me.

[PJBOY]

Originally Posted by hasshman

i cycle ec once a week and get off it for a few weeks. Once a day - 200g c and 24g e.

One thing i noticed when i get of it, the first few days i feel my chest congested like i am about to have an asthma attack.
Is this normal?

do u have asthma?

[Culebra]

I have never taken an EC stack before but I just bought 250 8mg tabs... and want to start using it as soon as it comes in.

Right now for meals, I am currently just taking one shake for breakfast and one before my workout, then for dinner it's one regular meal... but in all honesty I can't keep this up much longer. I'm so incredibly hungry all the time it seems.

What would be the best way to take an EC stack (or would ECA be better, or what stack in general out of all the E C A Y ~ whatever's out there would be best)

-What are the effects from the E and the C and them together etc.
-Can I take the two separately?
-What are the benefits from taking them together and apart?
-Can I take the E without taking C? What effect would that have?

Should I buy the caffeine then too?

[Dudun]

Can someone please mention how many of the NOW Omega's to take? HotnFit says 2-3g, so how many pills is that?

Waiting on an answer before I start this stack.

[LIGHTNINGBLITZ]

Originally Posted by Culebra

I have never taken an EC stack before but I just bought 250 8mg tabs... and want to start using it as soon as it comes in.

Right now for meals, I am currently just taking one shake for breakfast and one before my workout, then for dinner it's one regular meal... but in all honesty I can't keep this up much longer. I'm so incredibly hungry all the time it seems.

What would be the best way to take an EC stack (or would ECA be better, or what stack in general out of all the E C A Y ~ whatever's out there would be best)

-What are the effects from the E and the C and them together etc.
-Can I take the two separately?
-What are the benefits from taking them together and apart?
-Can I take the E without taking C? What effect would that have?

Should I buy the caffeine then too?

ECY should be better, but start with EC and see how that goes.

I dont have the article, cant find it, but, I read the true reports.

The two work best TOGETHER. One report put it like this, "Caffeine 'losens' up the fat and helps burn it off on its own. Ephedra uses neurons to have your body burn more calories. If caffeine makes fat cals usable over muscle, it will be burned first."

So the ECA/ECY stack helps you keep muscle and torch fat, assuming you have a deficit.

You can take the two seperately, but the magic are the two. The reposts only show a .3 lb loss of fat long term in the stack, but its of fat. Additionally together you lose hunger and increase heart rate, which burns more calories which off-sets motabolism decrease from cutting, so its all math which is how they figured the .3. If they cut 3500 per week, they should lose 1 lb, but lost 1.3 of fat.

E tells your body to burn more, in a simplistic way. Its in the brain. Caffeine makes your body use fat for energy when out of food cals. Combine both aspects and you have something that works, better than either alone.

[obriench]

Originally Posted by Hasshman

I cycle EC once a week and get off it for a few weeks. Once a day - 200G C and 24g E.

One thing I noticed when I get of it, the first few days I feel my chest congested like I am about to have an Asthma attack.
Is this normal?

First, I'm not sure of your reasoning for cycling that way because its not an effective way to use the EC stack to burn fat.

And you may feel congested in your chest after going off because of the guaifenesin that's mixed in with the ephedrine (which acts to clear out your lungs of mucuos). Yes, it's "normal" because I've read/heard of other people experiencing this. You would cut down on experiencing this if you just stayed on the EC stack properly rather than your current schedule. At least stay on for 6-8 weeks continuously before going off--if not, then what's the point of you taking it anyway?

[terracotta]

Originally Posted by obriench

First, I'm not sure of your reasoning for cycling that way because its not an effective way to use the EC stack to burn fat.

And you may feel congested in your chest after going off because of the guaifenesin that's mixed in with the ephedrine (which acts to clear out your lungs of mucuos). Yes, it's "normal" because I've read/heard of other people experiencing this. You would cut down on experiencing this if you just stayed on the EC stack properly rather than your current schedule. At least stay on for 6-8 weeks continuously before going off--if not, then what's the point of you taking it anyway?

I agree.. no point taking it 1 week per month. You might as well just stop taking it, it would be better for you. The biggest risks are at the beginning when you start taking it. By yoyoing on and off, you are not allowing your body to acclimatize. Acclimatization is actually good because effects on blood pressure, heart rate etc diminish.

[terracotta]

Originally Posted by Dudun

Can someone please mention how many of the NOW Omega's to take? HotnFit says 2-3g, so how many pills is that?

Waiting on an answer before I start this stack.

Each pill is 1g. If they are NOW ultra omega, take 2-3 pills per day. If they are the regular NOW omega 3/fish oils take 4-6 pills per day.

[SebastianG]

I just went from EC stack (which really didnt do much to me to be honest) to straight up ephedra extract again with willow bark and other stuff in there.

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by terracotta

Each pill is 1g. If they are NOW ultra omega, take 2-3 pills per day. If they are the regular NOW omega 3/fish oils take 4-6 pills per day.

flaxseed oil just as good as fish oil?

[Nutshell20]

Any issues with alchohol and EC?

[Pichketina]

Originally Posted by Pichketina

What online drug store/shop/etc. ships internationaly? E bay doesn't have bronkaid for months O.o

bump

[aluu]

do you still take this stack on (off) days?

[Hasshman]

Originally Posted by obriench

First, I'm not sure of your reasoning for cycling that way because its not an effective way to use the EC stack to burn fat.

And you may feel congested in your chest after going off because of the guaifenesin that's mixed in with the ephedrine (which acts to clear out your lungs of mucuos). Yes, it's "normal" because I've read/heard of other people experiencing this. You would cut down on experiencing this if you just stayed on the EC stack properly rather than your current schedule. At least stay on for 6-8 weeks continuously before going off--if not, then what's the point of you taking it anyway?

Thanks for the advice. I used to have childhood Asthma and into my early 20s. I used to use a puffer inhaler but haven't in about 6-7 years because I never got an attack.
As mentioned in my previous post ever since I started to cycle with EC, I feel chest congested the first few days after stopping taking EC then it gets better.
I'll try a longer cycle this time (4 weeks) and see what happens.

Thanks again.

[obriench]

Originally Posted by Hasshman

Thanks for the advice. I used to have childhood Asthma and into my early 20s. I used to use a puffer inhaler but haven't in about 6-7 years because I never got an attack.
As mentioned in my previous post ever since I started to cycle with EC, I feel chest congested the first few days after stopping taking EC then it gets better.
I'll try a longer cycle this time (4 weeks) and see what happens.

Thanks again.

I also had asthma and sinus/allergy problem growing up and into my early 20s like you--but most of the asthma was due to being overweight (I also used a puff inhaler). While I no longer need an inhaler for the most part because I'm no longer obese, I do find that the EC stack helps with my normal sinus/allergy problems. Since you've had problems with asthma in the past that probably explains while your lungs feels so congested after stopping the EC stack--especially if you also have any problems with sinuses/allergies.

When you stop taking the stack, it might be helpful to buy some OTC guaifenesin and pseudoephedrine (sudafed) and take a low dose of both whenever you feel especially congested. Also, Afrin No Drip Nasal Spray or similar generic store brand can also help clear any nasal congestion.

The doctors have always advised me not to use Afrin/similar generic nasal spray for more than 3 days in a row because your nasal passages will get "addicted" to it. So just use sparingly.

[obriench]

Originally Posted by alainlovesserina

do you still take this stack on (off) days?

I do and generally that's how the stack works. Doing the stack means doing it everyday until whatever date you choose to end the stack.

[BigBoyAdd]

I've just finished running 4weeks of an EC stack:
Q: How long should I stay off it now ? Im looking to maybe run 1 more cycle ???

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by BigBoyAdd

I've just finished running 4weeks of an EC stack:
Q: How long should I stay off it now ? Im looking to maybe run 1 more cycle ???

how were your results?

I just got a box of bronkaid and i'm going to run 6 weeks with the CHA diet

[KennyK]

so i've been checking my BP over the past few days and it's been coming out around 125/75.

is that too high to continue?

[The Coon]

I been reading up on EC more, and honestly it scared the crap out of me... A lot of the articles mention how it increases chances of heart attack and stroke.

Should I get a heart rate monitor before I start this stack?

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by The Coon

I been reading up on EC more, and honestly it scared the crap out of me... A lot of the articles mention how it increases chances of heart attack and stroke.

Should I get a heart rate monitor before I start this stack?

it's got me freaked out now too because of the blood pressure issue. i've been starting with the half doses stacked with lean extreme

[bperiod]

Why is EGCG recommended with the stack?
And will taking the low dose 81 mg aspirin improve results at all?

[Justin23454]

The reason why people have had heart problems with this is because they are outside in the heat doing Hardcore traing/cardio. Stay away from going outside and/or doing HIIT, and I think you will be fine.

[RedSoxfan1978]

Im on 3 a day. Which is 75mg E and then I take 600mg caffine, and two 81mg aspirins.

That is at 8am, 12pm, and 4pm accordingly.
I have had not one side effect. I do moderate cardio. Im in AC all day and sitting down.
Drink lots of water and be careful thats all. This stuff will elevate your heart rate, of course, so dont go over the top with things and you SHOULD be fine.

Im doing a 6 week cycle. I started Oct. 18. Then I will take 8 weeks off and run another cycle.
So far so good for me.

[Bials14]

Anyone have any trouble "keeping it up" or even getting it up for that matter while running this stack.. Ive read about how it is a vasoconstrictor so there is much less blood flow down there... just want to make sure this is whats causing it

[jordansrt]

Originally Posted by Bials14

Anyone have any trouble "keeping it up" or even getting it up for that matter while running this stack.. Ive read about how it is a vasoconstrictor so there is much less blood flow down there... just want to make sure this is whats causing it

no probs here captain

[Procta]

Originally Posted by KennyK

it's got me freaked out now too because of the blood pressure issue. i've been starting with the half doses stacked with lean extreme

hows that going?

[Tiffany_P]

Originally Posted by KennyK

flaxseed oil just as good as fish oil?

No, not even close. Flaxseed oil has mainly ALA. Fish oil has EPA and DHA.

[Bials14]

Also, what was the average time for everyone when they started to see visible results.