5 myths of weight loss

[everblue]

4. Some large scale studies have found that even diet sodas cause weight gain. The theory is that the sweetness can cause an insulin spike, and/or that separating calorie intake from sweetness can cause your body to distrust its food intake and eat more.

This is bull**** wtf. People gained weight because of insulin is being released when drinking diet sodas? There's no carbohydrates in diet soda! How the **** can insulin transport nothing into fat cells?

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[ilovesarakim]

Agreed. It's fine in moderation bros. Or hell, drink a gallon.

[sxgt]

I lost 15 lbs while drinking diet soda daily. So yeahh...

[mikelog]

Originally Posted by sxgt

I see a lot of people giving skewed advice. Maybe this can clear things up.

1. Eating fat makes you fat.
-truth. calorie surplus will resort in food energy being store as fat wither its Fat Carbs or Protein.

Agree. Eating fat does not make you fat. I used to eat at McDonalds everyday and I was never overweight. I have gained more weight in the past few years from eating too many carbs. I haven't ate a diet high in fat in years, but I am heavier now than when I ate greasy crap all day. Overeating makes you fat.

[mikelog]

Originally Posted by everblue

This is bull**** wtf. People gained weight because of insulin is being released when drinking diet sodas? There's no carbohydrates in diet soda! How the **** can insulin transport nothing into fat cells?

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Because diet soda causes the insulin spike. But people eat food with the diet soda that IS stored as fat if they overeat. Diet soda is just not a good idea if you are trying to lose fat. Anything that slows down the body's ability to release stored fat is like shooting yourself in the foot.

[AFdave]

Originally Posted by mikelog

Because diet soda causes the insulin spike. But people eat food with the diet soda that IS stored as fat if they overeat. Diet soda is just not a good idea if you are trying to lose fat. Anything that slows down the body's ability to release stored fat is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Even more strong broscience!

[everblue]

Originally Posted by mikelog

Because diet soda causes the insulin spike. But people eat food with the diet soda that IS stored as fat if they overeat. Diet soda is just not a good idea if you are trying to lose fat. Anything that slows down the body's ability to release stored fat is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Lmfao! So you're saying that if I fast for 2 days then drink a diet coke, my insulin level will spike? Even though there are 0 carbohydrates, you say that drinking a diet coke will cause my blood glucose level to increase? Where does the glucose come from then? I'm not asking rhetorical questions, I'm hopefully making you feel like a dumbass for saying something so stupid.

Even more strong broscience!

LOL repped

[mikelog]

Originally Posted by everblue

Lmfao! So you're saying that if I fast for 2 days then drink a diet coke, my insulin level will spike? Even though there are 0 carbohydrates, you say that drinking a diet coke will cause my blood glucose level to increase? Where does the glucose come from then? I'm not asking rhetorical questions, I'm hopefully making you feel like a dumbass for saying something so stupid.

No, I don't feel stupid at all. Most people don't fast for two days ordinarily. You wouldn't be able to do much of a workout on that routine. There have been studies done where diet coke causes an insulin spike. Just search the net for one. Many people avoid diet soda if they are trying to lose weight for that very reason. There have never been any studies where water has caused an insulin spike. So, water is always going to be a better option. If I am serious about losing weight, why would I want to impede my progress in any way??

http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singl...asp?newID=1539
http://www.emaxhealth.com/11/586.html

[Shr3dJunki3]

I can probably eat a teaspoon of sugar every day and cause insulin spikes like crazy and still lose fat because of a calorie deficit and weight lifting routine.

[TheManofSteel]

Originally Posted by everblue

This is bull**** wtf. People gained weight because of insulin is being released when drinking diet sodas? There's no carbohydrates in diet soda! How the **** can insulin transport nothing into fat cells?

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Research points to the artificial sweeteners acting too much like a regular sugar CHO, therefore causing the insulin spike. **** like Splenda which is so foreign to the human body , it doesn't know what to do with it. I haven't read the actual articles only a couple of abstracts. Seems plausible but further research needs to be done.

[everblue]

Originally Posted by mikelog

No, I don't feel stupid at all. Most people don't fast for two days ordinarily. You wouldn't be able to do much of a workout on that routine. There have been studies done where diet coke causes an insulin spike. Just search the net for one. Many people avoid diet soda if they are trying to lose weight for that very reason. There have never been any studies where water has caused an insulin spike. So, water is always going to be a better option. If I am serious about losing weight, why would I want to impede my progress in any way??

http://www.uthscsa.edu/hscnews/singl...asp?newID=1539
http://www.emaxhealth.com/11/586.html

#1 emaxhealth.com is not a reliable source lol
#2 did you even read the .edu source? it says NOTHING about elevated insulin levels.

Here is my source:

[gjohnson5]

Originally Posted by sxgt

4. Soda is bad
-Diet soda is zero calorie and the evidence against artificial sweeteners is inconclusive.

To me I would avoid processed foods as much as possible. I would agree that there is not much evidence against things such as sucralose and aspartame. However I would stick with natural sweeteners instead of processed artificial ones any day of the week. infact I would try to stay whole as much as possible

[RealMenDeadLift]

Originally Posted by Eileen

1. Er NO. Eating a high fat keto diet is one of the fastest ways to lose bodyfat.

Keto has no metabolic advantage over other isocaloric diets

[Eileen]

Originally Posted by everblue

This is bull**** wtf. People gained weight because of insulin is being released when drinking diet sodas? There's no carbohydrates in diet soda! How the **** can insulin transport nothing into fat cells?

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And you always drink your diet soda totally on its own, with no other food? Most people drink while eating something that can get stored.

Large scale studies on middle aged Americans found the link, not me. The ones who drank a diet soda tended to be more obese than the ones who didn't.

[Eileen]

Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift

Keto has no metabolic advantage over other isocaloric diets

It does have the advantage of lack of hunger which means less cheating.

[shajadpa]

Don't forget starvation mode bro

[Reman]

Originally Posted by Eileen

It does have the advantage of lack of hunger which means less cheating.

Maybe, maybe not. People with good insulin sensitivity tend to do better with higher carbs.

But in isocaloric conditions, with static protein intake - it doesn't matter. Just get your proetin, EFAs and veggies and where you get your cals after that doesn't matter. As long as they stay under control.

[AFdave]

Originally Posted by everblue

#1 emaxhealth.com is not a reliable source lol
#2 did you even read the .edu source? it says NOTHING about elevated insulin levels.

Here is my source:

Now you know he just posted the first "study" he could google and agree with his broscience

[Eileen]

Originally Posted by Reman

Maybe, maybe not. People with good insulin sensitivity tend to do better with higher carbs.

But in isocaloric conditions, with static protein intake - it doesn't matter. Just get your proetin, EFAs and veggies and where you get your cals after that doesn't matter. As long as they stay under control.

We're obviously looking at different studies then.

[BigBoyAdd]

Originally Posted by Eileen

4. Some large scale studies have found that even diet sodas cause weight gain. The theory is that the sweetness can cause an insulin spike, and/or that separating calorie intake from sweetness can cause your body to distrust its food intake and eat more.

This is total crap, I have never gain weight when on diet soda. In fact I find I drink more of this sh*t the more I diet. As you can see Im losing weight and I knock back 4 a day, bad me...

[TheManofSteel]

The battle of diet soda is becoming one of fasted cardio vs. non-fasted cardio. Listen... is drinking diet soda a million times better than regular soda or regular juice? Yes. NOW, are the effects of long term diet soda use extensively researched? The answer is no. This whole artificial sweetener thing is still brand new to the human body. Is it better than most of the crap most humans put into their bodies ? YES however, Science is out on exactly the repercussions of drinking 5 diet sodas a day. Stop Bickering.

[Reman]

Originally Posted by Eileen

We're obviously looking at different studies then.

For which part? About the satiety effects of low carb diets? Or are you saying that calories don't matter?

[Eileen]

God no, calories very definitely do count. No, studies about the relative effectiveness of different diets with different carb counts.