♂♂♂ HGHup♂ by Applied Nutriceuticals: TECH WRITEUP!! ♂♂♂ - Page 4

rms80 · 10-21-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kincaid82

Need to pick Dirk's brain on this when i see him in the gym next

Sure thing- be in there early AM....

rms80 · 10-21-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Label

I'm still taking notes for when I use this =P

I wish I could talk to Dirk about so many random things. Like today I found out soy inhibits zinc absorption, so couldn't the lack of zinc be related to the idea that soy skews T and E. Don't need an answer really, I just wanted to get it out

you know my e-mail- and zinc is also antagonistic to copper, and calcium is antagonistic to magnesium and to a lesser extent, zinc

rms80 · 10-21-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew

I honestly think it is interesting and worth a shot. Looks pretty innovative imo because of the level of thought and science put into the formula. Most products in the industry def. don't follow a similar level at all and as you say, are simply a bunch of popular ingredients slapped together just hoping for the best. I can appreciate and see the thinking you or whoever has applied to this nutriceutical. You guys are def. more scrutinized on a higher level than many companies here as you can tell by the questions. I don't think that is a bad thing though... most good companies are. Once a company relies on legit science to back their products, I def. begin to see this happen, but I am sure the product will prove itself... I hope so anyways... like I said, it appears worth a shot. I hope to try it out sometime.

Thx man- and I honestly don't mind the questions- it challenges me and holds me accountable to our customer base- if I can't explain why I put something in a formula and/or how it interacts with everything else in said formula, I haven't done my homework. As for interactions with other supplements- I try to account for those as well- but it is a little tougher sometimes.....

Hardknock · 10-21-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rms80

Good question/observation- dose in HGH-Up per 5 capsules is 2 mg (the RDA).... the explanation of this can get a little confusing: B-6 is a co-factor in Dopa Decarboxylase (DDC) synthesis. In this case, this seems counterproductive, because we are trying to lower DDC and prevent the conversion of L-Dopa to dopamine by using a DDCI, at least peripherally, because dopamine has a hard time crossing the blood brain barrier. However, administration of a DDCI with L-Dopa can cause a deficiency in pyroxidine (B-6), and this can significantly lower the effectiveness of the L-Dopa, in that L-Dopa still must be converted to dopamine once it crosses the BBB anyway to exert its effects, and pyroxidine is necessary as a cofactor for this to occur. So the B-6 is included as a co-factor/preventative measure.....

Thanks, actually this was along the lines of what I was talking over with a few chemist today, well, one chemist to be exact. He explained it, no where near as clear or concise, but along the lines of how you just explained it....

Thank you sir.

Vitruvian · 10-22-2009, 05:51 AM

To any loggers....... products left the office yesterday

TheUnlikelyToad · 10-22-2009, 06:10 AM

Is there a MSRP, serving size, and cap count available yet?

RyKane · 10-22-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian

To any loggers....... products left the office yesterday

Woot!

Black_Label · 10-22-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rms80

you know my e-mail- and zinc is also antagonistic to copper, and calcium is antagonistic to magnesium and to a lesser extent, zinc

I bother you enough as it is. If anything the next round of questions would pertain to school degrees and work

Get ready for the hghup guys!

kincaid82 · 10-22-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rms80

Sure thing- be in there early AM....

i left at 6:20 today, i know you get in closer to 6:30, next time

kincaid82 · 10-22-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian

To any loggers....... products left the office yesterday

No they didn't, i hijacked the shipment, now it's alllllllll mine.

Vitruvian · 10-22-2009, 08:39 AM

ONtop888 · 10-22-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian

any news about AN's other supplement?

Vitruvian · 10-22-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ONtop888

any news about AN's other supplement?

Clarify what you're referring to.................

Hardnutcheck · 10-22-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian

Clarify what you're referring to.................

AppNut protein to go along side that sexy shaker bottle.

Vitruvian · 10-22-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardnutcheck

AppNut protein to go along side that sexy shaker bottle.

Still a number of details to work out on that one....... we know theirs some protein hittin the euro market soon

That shaker bottle could be for any number of the other powder products we have coming out too ya know

smssambear19 · 10-23-2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ONtop888

any news about AN's other supplement?

Which one? LOL...

Cheers!

-Sean-

Team APPNUT

The Tanya · 10-23-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ONtop888

any news about AN's other supplement?

We've actually got 4 (aside from HGHup) in the pipeline right now. Lot's of exciting stuff on the way!!

donorrell · 10-23-2009, 11:00 AM

HGHUP will go on sale in one week on APPNUT.com!

BiggJohn · 10-23-2009, 11:49 AM

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119895311

I've received the product, and have start a log here.

Guejsn · 10-23-2009, 04:02 PM

To make it easy to find all the logs being done on HGHup♂ they will be placed in ♂♂♂ Links to the HGHup♂ Logs ♂♂♂

~Rosie
Team APPNUT

MBSowards · 10-23-2009, 07:59 PM

Just realized I haven't seen anything on dosage or dose timing?

EDIT: See timing, dunno about dosing though.

Free Weight Friedel · 10-23-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MBSowards

Just realized I haven't seen anything on dosage or dose timing?

EDIT: See timing, dunno about dosing though.

2-3 2 times per day from what I've read.

Vitruvian · 10-24-2009, 11:57 AM

Everybody dose 6 total/day. 3 and 3.

Further instruction coming if this changes.

jwbeeler · 10-24-2009, 12:13 PM

OK...this is an interesting read. I currently take IGF-2, Neovar and Drive. I would like to know what to change with the new product.

Also, I am going to try a cycle of The One in about 20 days (30 day cycle). With that cycle, I plan to drop Drive - is that a good idea?

Also, would the new product be an enhancement to the stack or a cycle by itself (I read it's non-hormonal). I love your products and can't wait to try HGHup♂ .

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

Black_Label · 10-24-2009, 08:44 PM

Drive can be used after The One if I remember correctly. Have you checked out The One info threads?

I have not thought about the use of HgHup with The One. Thats an interesting idea.

Guejsn · 10-24-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwbeeler

OK...this is an interesting read. I currently take IGF-2, Neovar and Drive. I would like to know what to change with the new product.

Also, I am going to try a cycle of The One in about 20 days (30 day cycle). With that cycle, I plan to drop Drive - is that a good idea?

Also, would the new product be an enhancement to the stack or a cycle by itself (I read it's non-hormonal). I love your products and can't wait to try HGHup♂ .

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

Do NOT use IGF-2 whilst using HGHup♂! Use one or the other, but not both simultaneously.

On-cycle re The ONE, yes you should stop using Drive and any other natural testosterone booster that you are using and save them for PCT. You should start using Drive again 7 days before the end of your cycle, so that it has kicked in by PCT.

HGHup♂ would be well served as either a standalone, stacked with another testosterone booster, or on PCT. You could also use HGHup♂ on-cycle, to enhance the effectiveness of The ONE.

As Chris said, make sure that you have read the IMPORTANT The ONE information threads, especially >>>the Right Way To Gain 10-15lbs In 15 Days With The One!!!<<< before you run it.

~Rosie
Team APPNUT

smssambear19 · 10-25-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Label

Drive can be used after The One if I remember correctly. Have you checked out The One info threads?

I have not thought about the use of HgHup with The One. Thats an interesting idea.

Using HGH up along with The ONE will actually enhance the effectiveness of The ONE because of the ability of L-Carnitine L-Tartrate to increase the density of androgen receptors thus creating an environment where there are more binding interactions with anabolic hormones, which in effect can lead to more muscle potential for lean muscle mass, muscle strength, muscle protein synthesis, and faster recovery due to less muscle damage.

As a side note...if you want to make your cycle of The ONE even better...throwing in some GPLC in addition to HGH up!

Cheers!

-Sean-

Team APPNUT

jwbeeler · 10-25-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smssambear19

Using HGH up along with The ONE will actually enhance the effectiveness of The ONE because of the ability of L-Carnitine L-Tartrate to increase the density of androgen receptors thus creating an environment where there are more binding interactions with anabolic hormones, which in effect can lead to more muscle potential for lean muscle mass, muscle strength, muscle protein synthesis, and faster recovery due to less muscle damage.

As a side note...if you want to make your cycle of The ONE even better...throwing in some GPLC in addition to HGH up!

Cheers!

-Sean-

Team APPNUT

Believe me, I've read the other thread regarding The ONE. Since the new product was not out at the time, obviously it was not reflected in the write up.

I was planning on cycling:

The ONE
IGF-2
Neovar

However, with the information I just learned, I would like to cycle:

The ONE
HGHup♂
Neovar
GPLC (brand recommendations???)

The 7 days prior to end of cycle,

Start DRIVE

End of cycle,

Second Gear

Vitruvian · 10-25-2009, 02:50 PM

Maintaining Neovar and HGHup into and throughout PCT also?

Guejsn · 10-25-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwbeeler

Believe me, I've read the other thread regarding The ONE. Since the new product was not out at the time, obviously it was not reflected in the write up.

I was planning on cycling:

The ONE
IGF-2
Neovar

However, with the information I just learned, I would like to cycle:

The ONE
HGHup♂
Neovar
GPLC (brand recommendations???)

The 7 days prior to end of cycle,

Start DRIVE

End of cycle,

Second Gear

On-cycle:
The ONE
NeoVar Recomped
HGHup♂

7 days before The ONE cycle ends:
Start Drive
The ONE
NeoVar Recomped
HGHup♂

PCT:
2nd GEAR
NeoVar Recomped
HGHup♂
Drive

Make sure that you are also using on-cycle and during PCT:
Multivitamin
Antioxidant
Protein Powder
Good Fats

I would also recommend continuing Drive for another 4-5 weeks after your PCT ends, so that you use it for at least 8 weeks to get the most out of it.

~Rosie
Team APPNUT