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Old 10-21-2009, 05:38 AM   #1
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Weight training + p90x without overtraining?

so I've been bulking up for the past couple months and I want to start to cut down pretty soon. I'm almost hitting 190lbs and my question is this; I want to do p90x as my cardio training but I still want to do my weight training in they gym. Right now i'm in the gym 4 days a week lifting hard and heavy. Right now I'm not sure if the p90x thing is 90 days straight or whatever but I want to keep my weight training in the gym along with the p90x routine. I figured to cut down my gym time to 3 days a week plus the p90x. Maybe do p90x in the morning then 8 hours later go to the gym 3 days out of the week to lift heavy. The only supps I got are universal eaa, ON creatine and protein. If I decide to do my p90x in the morning do you guys think it'll be ok to just have a piece of fruit and a serving of eaa's during the routine? Will that be enough to keep muscle? On days I don't train at the gym i'll have a pwo shake 50g protein. On days with gym training i'll have it after that. thanks guys!
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:26 AM   #2
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I would just focus on getting enough calories and protein throughout the day. Make sure to get enough sleep and take 1-2 days off every week from both programs.

Are you currently having recovery problems or just trying to be proactive?
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so I've been bulking up for the past couple months and I want to start to cut down pretty soon. I'm almost hitting 190lbs and my question is this; I want to do p90x as my cardio training but I still want to do my weight training in they gym. Right now i'm in the gym 4 days a week lifting hard and heavy. Right now I'm not sure if the p90x thing is 90 days straight or whatever but I want to keep my weight training in the gym along with the p90x routine. I figured to cut down my gym time to 3 days a week plus the p90x. Maybe do p90x in the morning then 8 hours later go to the gym 3 days out of the week to lift heavy. The only supps I got are universal eaa, ON creatine and protein. If I decide to do my p90x in the morning do you guys think it'll be ok to just have a piece of fruit and a serving of eaa's during the routine? Will that be enough to keep muscle? On days I don't train at the gym i'll have a pwo shake 50g protein. On days with gym training i'll have it after that. thanks guys!
I'm big into MMA as well. I use P90X and I still lift, run, heavy and speed bag and use the stationary bike for cool down. I don't know what others will tell you. But I feel the body needs to be conditioned.

The way I look at it is like this.... If you were to join the military tomorrow and ship out to BCT... They would have you run, pushups etc until muscle failure... You'll be sore as hell the next day but that won't stop them from making you do it all over again. And I have never seen a Soldier in rough shape... Except medics... But they get away with it lol

So what I would do is force myself to a workout routine until my body adjusted. Then keep raising the bar.

I use ClenbutRX Hardcore to boost my energy. They say it's for fat burning but I don't believe in any of that. If there was a miracle product to eliminate fat we wouldn't have an obesity problem in the world today. But one thing I believe is that these so called "fat burners" increase your energy and endurance enough so that you have the motivation to do all the work.

But if I were you. I would continue what you are doing. Add P90X to your daily lifting routine. Maybe p90 in the morning and workout in the evening. You'll be sore at first but your body will adjust. Just drink plenty of water and make sure you're eating a decent amount of calories so you don't end up exhausted. Get a good recovery supplement. I like to train as hard as I can and then take a recovery supplement along with a multi-vitamin and take a nap allowing my body to repair itself.

But you mentioned you like MMA. And in our sport we're not looking to become body builders. We're looking to become athletes. So just keep raising the bar.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:18 PM   #4
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I would just focus on getting enough calories and protein throughout the day. Make sure to get enough sleep and take 1-2 days off every week from both programs.

Are you currently having recovery problems or just trying to be proactive?
well since my goal is to lose some poundage, how do you suggest I go about eating? I try to get 4 shakes in a day so thats 100g protein then about another 150g through food. For sure i'll be eating at a deficit cause my goal is weightloss. How does this sound? On days when I train at the gym, should I up my cals a tiny bit to say counter the calories lost while lifting?

Well, right now i'm on mass fx, on my second bottle about halfway done. My recovery is on point right now and i'll give the credit to massfx. I decided to cut my bulk short so I can have some massfx during the start of my cut to give some time for my body to adjust to the p90x + weight training.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:25 PM   #5
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I'm big into MMA as well. I use P90X and I still lift, run, heavy and speed bag and use the stationary bike for cool down. I don't know what others will tell you. But I feel the body needs to be conditioned.

The way I look at it is like this.... If you were to join the military tomorrow and ship out to BCT... They would have you run, pushups etc until muscle failure... You'll be sore as hell the next day but that won't stop them from making you do it all over again. And I have never seen a Soldier in rough shape... Except medics... But they get away with it lol

So what I would do is force myself to a workout routine until my body adjusted. Then keep raising the bar.

I use ClenbutRX Hardcore to boost my energy. They say it's for fat burning but I don't believe in any of that. If there was a miracle product to eliminate fat we wouldn't have an obesity problem in the world today. But one thing I believe is that these so called "fat burners" increase your energy and endurance enough so that you have the motivation to do all the work.

But if I were you. I would continue what you are doing. Add P90X to your daily lifting routine. Maybe p90 in the morning and workout in the evening. You'll be sore at first but your body will adjust. Just drink plenty of water and make sure you're eating a decent amount of calories so you don't end up exhausted. Get a good recovery supplement. I like to train as hard as I can and then take a recovery supplement along with a multi-vitamin and take a nap allowing my body to repair itself.

But you mentioned you like MMA. And in our sport we're not looking to become body builders. We're looking to become athletes. So just keep raising the bar.
right now i'm using universal EAA stack for recovery. I'm using it during training, but when p90x starts i'll use it to keep my muscle from burning. As for energy, i'll probably get some 1,3 dimethylamylamine and caffeine, maybe i'll grab some beta-alanine also. My little ghetto concoction of jack3d.

as for my question again about breakfast, you guys think its alright? upon waking a piece of fruit or two with a serving of eaa's then i'll do p90x? on days that I won't be going to the gym i'll have a pwo shake. and days I do go to the gym, the pwo shake will be after that.

thanks for the responses guys!
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