Australia - why I think its the greatest nation - Page 6

Roger999 · 10-21-2009, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by talonz

so you think people should have guns at school and workplaces? sigh you backward moron..

That's the point.....To have your weapon on you 24/7, you have your weapon on you 24/7 because you don't choose the time to use it.

camdls1 · 10-21-2009, 05:35 AM

Aus is really not that great, bogans are ****ing annoying and little abo looking ****s are ****ing annoying too.

stabbings and robbery's etc are pretty common where im from and this area is pretty decent compared to some.

places like redfern are ****holes, going out clubbing in sydney will most likely end in a fight or stabbing or bashing.

swiz · 10-21-2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonez3858

How many gun stores get robbed...Connect the dots yet?

Listen guy, connect the dots yourself. Your arguing moot points right there.

Would a moral person rob a gun store?
Would a moral person rob?
Would a moral person carry a gun?

I think you get the point. Connected any dots?

Excellentswag · 10-21-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chook Legs

I dont follow a religous belief system. What qualificaions do I make then?

Neither do I. I do however realize religion is a product of function in society and when you've gone through a thousand year dark age inflicted by the ruling class, the middle east's version of religion is no doubt going to be not up to date with today's modern society. However, change is a funny thing and it tends to happen fast. The raging lunatics of today's Australian Moslem protests will be the parents and grandparents of some crazy, "normal" Australian kids, I promise you that much.

-RAZ- · 10-21-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by camdls1

Aus is really not that great, bogans are ****ing annoying and little abo looking ****s are ****ing annoying too.

stabbings and robbery's etc are pretty common where im from and this area is pretty decent compared to some.

places like redfern are ****holes, going out clubbing in sydney will most likely end in a fight or stabbing or bashing.

why do you hate what an Aboriginal by his looks, your a fukwit

talonz · 10-21-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

That's the point.....To have your weapon on you 24/7, you have your weapon on you 24/7 because you don't choose the time to use it.

too many idiots as evidenced by america, 500k guns stolen a year in america, because there are too many guns, either way i'm over this, we are safer in australia which is good enough for me.

Only thing thats good for USA is that if someone invades them there will be one big mutha ****en resistance going on lol.

Smithy_K · 10-21-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakRandy

Ausies who live in the UK are useless. They all love Jurassic 5 and DJ format and do stupid quotes from Will Ferrel movies or Borat. None of them are even moderately culturally educated neither. They remind me of really crap British students.

sir your comments are vague and don't even at all contrast with the Australian way of life

because I don't know how to put this but I'm sort of a big deal. People know me and I'm very important. I also have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.

BlakRandy · 10-21-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy_K

sir your comments are vague and don't even at all contrast with the Australian way of life

because I don't know how to put this but I'm sort of a big deal. People know me and I'm very important. I also have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.

Lol. You are my fave new Ausie. Repped.

RipgutCannibal · 10-21-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

That's the point.....To have your weapon on you 24/7, you have your weapon on you 24/7 because you don't choose the time to use it.

LOLOL. This works really well in Compton.

Youre very ****ing paranoid. You want everyone to be strapped so we all live in as much fear as you do.

camdls1 · 10-21-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Binbeal

why do you hate what an Aboriginal by his looks, your a fukwit

just something about a dirty scrawny stinky bum that i dont like

XsongX · 10-21-2009, 05:46 AM

hey aussies

just thought i'd hop on over to page 6

Roger999 · 10-21-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RipgutCannibal

LOLOL. This works really well in Compton.

Youre very ****ing paranoid. You want everyone to be strapped so we all live in as much fear as you do.

You are responsible for your own protection, what can I do when I am not even legally allowed to defend myself with non lethal weapons? You are given one choice in this country, call 000, wait 10minutes while you bend over and take it in the ass.

Nothing paranoid about being prepared, Darwin favours the prepared.

tbonez3858 · 10-21-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RipgutCannibal

Most massacres arent committed by people with extensive criminal records are they? Massacres are pre-planned and practically unstoppable if anyone ever wanted to undertake one. Having firearms so easily available, such as in your own home, enhances the chances of it occuring though. An agitated, psychologically ill, person is having a bad day they can access them with consummate ease. Also US society promotes living with guns (gun culture) making a massacre with a firearm an even greater possibility. Its accepted that you have guns and yes massacres do happen. Over here that **** just doesnt happen.

You can get a gun pretty much anywhere in the world in just a day or so...If you are hell bent on a massacre nothing is going to stop you. I have lived in the US and in Australia. There are issues in society that cause massacres that are present in the US and not in Australia. Trying to compare the issues between these two societies is simply ridiculous. Its like comparing apples and oranges...

In the end guns dont drive the massacres, crazy ass f**tards drive the massacres. A better question to ask is what caused the guy to make him want to shoot up a school..When you figure that out you can fix that problem. Its been proven over and over again that removing the weapons from law abiding citizen never stops the criminal...

camdls1 · 10-21-2009, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

You are responsible for your own protection, what can I do when I am not even legally allowed to defend myself with non lethal weapons? You are given one choice in this country, call 000, wait 10minutes while you bend over and take it in the ass.

Nothing paranoid about being prepared, Darwin favours the prepared.

10 minutes would be great, i carry 2 knifes in my car and thinking of buying a gun for random junkies who like to start **** over nothing.

RipgutCannibal · 10-21-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

You are responsible for your own protection, what can I do when I am not even legally allowed to defend myself with non lethal weapons? You are given one choice in this country, call 000, wait 10minutes while you bend over and take it in the ass.

Nothing paranoid about being prepared, Darwin favours the prepared.

You can defend yourself. You just have to use reasonable force. You can use lethal weapons too as long as you have a genuine fear that your health is in danger.

RekaW · 10-21-2009, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chook Legs

But I can read translated versions, what islamic scholars say, what muslims write and what those evil apostates say. I worked with an ex muslim bloke who grew up in indonesia. He said all they teach is hate and its a load of crap. I guess someone like him knows nothing. And you will probably saw its only one misinformed person. I suppose growing up in a muslim country, going to islamic schools and in a home under strict muslim beliefs doesnt qualify him to speak on that topic.

If you call yourself say a 'muslim' yet adhere to an opposing belief system then you are a hypocrite. You can not follow opposing belief systems.

My dad has a mate who's cousin knows someone who's brother works as an apprentice mechanic.
That, and I watched a couple of episodes of "American Hotrod".
That makes me a mechanical engineer now according to you.

Some schools DO teach hate, intolerance, and extreme ideals. Kind of like the education you seem to have received.
MOST schools however, teach school curriculum.
There are schools like that for every belief system in existence. Officially recognised, or not.

You're giving me the sh*ts now.
Define the "Australian belief system" for me.

The way I see it, the Australian way of life (or part thereof) is defined by:
Tolerance for ALL people, and if their BELIEFS (not practices) don't interfere with your life directly, then good on 'em.
We are (supposedly) an accepting and open culture, free to believe what we want.

The feces that you're spewing right now, is contradicting everything that I believe Australia is about.
Who's the hypocrite?

Does it really affect you? The fact that there are muslims in Australia?
If you saw me in the street, you wouldn't even think I was a muslim.
You'd be too busy being scared and 'mirin the jacked fibraz.

Nice neg comment by the way.

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Originally Posted by Chook Legs

yeah see how you wish you were australian. **** allah and your child rapist hero mohummed can suck my balls. brainwashed muslim retard.

RipgutCannibal · 10-21-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonez3858

You can get a gun pretty much anywhere in the world in just a day or so...If you are hell bent on a massacre nothing is going to stop you. I have lived in the US and in Australia. There are issues in society that cause massacres that are present in the US and not in Australia. Trying to compare the issues between these two societies is simply ridiculous. Its like comparing apples and oranges...

In the end guns dont drive the massacres, crazy ass f**tards drive the massacres. A better question to ask is what caused the guy to make him want to shoot up a school..When you figure that out you can fix that problem. Its been proven over and over again that removing the weapons from law abiding citizen never stops the criminal...

I agree with all but the last bit. Having guns so easily available, and promoting them, encourages a level of acceptability and inevitability that gun crimes can and will happen. Its hard to compare though and im not prepared to fund a research project so im out for now.

Roger999 · 10-21-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by camdls1

10 minutes would be great, i carry 2 knifes in my car and thinking of buying a gun for random junkies who like to start **** over nothing.

That's the issue we're faced with as well, carrying any blade for self defence is illegal. There is no blade limits or lock limits for the carry of knives.
If I was caught carrying a swiss army knife with no reason and it is my second offence, I could be up for 2 year imprisonment even though a SAK cannot really be used as a lethal weapon as the blade does not lock and will chop off your fingers if you try stab with it.

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Originally Posted by RipgutCannibal

You can defend yourself. You just have to use reasonable force. You can use lethal weapons too as long as you have a genuine fear that your health is in danger.

So how will I access the lethal weapon to defend my life?

RipgutCannibal · 10-21-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

So how will I access the lethal weapon to defend my life?

Ever heard of suitcasing?

tbonez3858 · 10-21-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by swiz

Listen guy, connect the dots yourself. Your arguing moot points right there.

Would a moral person rob a gun store?
Would a moral person rob?
Would a moral person carry a gun?

I think you get the point. Connected any dots?

There is going to be no getting through to you..I will make one last attempt for my own humor...

Moral people do not rob gun stores
Moral people do not rob people
Moral people HAVE to carry guns because:

Criminals rob stores
Criminals rob moral people
Criminals dont give a F*** about the law (its why they are criminals)
Criminals dont give a F***if you are moral or not
Criminals WILL take your life simply to get your sh**

If moral people dont have guns only the criminals will...

That isnt so hard to understand and its pretty indisputable but I bet with everything in me you are going to make a run at it....

-click_here- · 10-21-2009, 06:02 AM

Burglaries per capita

# 1 Australia: 21.7454 per 1,000 people
# 2 Dominica: 18.7892 per 1,000 people
# 3 Denmark: 18.3299 per 1,000 people
# 4 Estonia: 17.4576 per 1,000 people
# 5 Finland: 16.7697 per 1,000 people

Car thefts per capita

# 1 Australia: 6.92354 per 1,000 people
# 2 Denmark: 5.92839 per 1,000 people
# 3 United Kingdom: 5.6054 per 1,000 people
# 4 New Zealand: 5.45031 per 1,000 people
# 5 Norway: 5.08143 per 1,000 people

Rapes per capita

# 1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
# 2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
# 3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
# 4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people

Murder per capita

# 43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
# 44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
# 45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
# 46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people

Total crime victims

# 1 Australia: 30.1%
# 2 New Zealand: 29.4%
# 3 United Kingdom: 26.4%
# 4 Netherlands: 25.2%
# 5 Sweden: 24.7%

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Roger999 · 10-21-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RipgutCannibal

Ever heard of suitcasing?

No.

I am not allowed to own any firearm to use for the protection of my home, so where would I get the legal lethal weapon to use against the person threatening my safety?

metal-head- · 10-21-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

That's the issue we're faced with as well, carrying any blade for self defence is illegal. There is no blade limits or lock limits for the carry of knives.
If I was caught carrying a swiss army knife with no reason and it is my second offence, I could be up for 2 year imprisonment even though a SAK cannot really be used as a lethal weapon as the blade does not lock and will chop off your fingers if you try stab with it.

So how will I access the lethal weapon to defend my life?

I live in WA some I'm not sure for other states but it's legal to carry a blade as long as it isn't over 5 inches (could be 6 I've forgotten). Also for defending your house baseball bat ftw.

tbonez3858 · 10-21-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger999

That's the issue we're faced with as well, carrying any blade for self defence is illegal. There is no blade limits or lock limits for the carry of knives.
If I was caught carrying a swiss army knife with no reason and it is my second offence, I could be up for 2 year imprisonment even though a SAK cannot really be used as a lethal weapon as the blade does not lock and will chop off your fingers if you try stab with it.

So how will I access the lethal weapon to defend my life?

I had no idea there were that many restrictions on weapons in Australia...To be honest Im shocked...I would hate to be a little guy in Australia.

tbonez3858 · 10-21-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by metal-head-

I live in WA some I'm not sure for other states but it's legal to carry a blade as long as it isn't over 5 inches (could be 6 I've forgotten). Also for defending your house baseball bat ftw.

baseball bat vs 9mm/shotgun/38 special/357 - This will not end well.

Excellentswag · 10-21-2009, 06:09 AM

Socioeconomics and economic disparity affects gun violence far more than legislation or who legally has access to guns.

/thread

Timmah6991 · 10-21-2009, 06:10 AM

I'm a Brissie boy born and breed and love it. I'm able to go to any train station and talk to random strangers and have a laugh and a conversation. When I've been to Melbourne and Sydney it's always heads done, avoid eye contact and keep quiet.

Chook Legs · 10-21-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RekaW

My dad has a mate who's cousin knows someone who's brother works as an apprentice mechanic.
That, and I watched a couple of episodes of "American Hotrod".
That makes me a mechanical engineer now according to you.

That is a stupid comparsion. Either you know this or a too retarded to understand what Im saying.

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Some schools DO teach hate, intolerance, and extreme ideals. Kind of like the education you seem to have received.

MOST schools however, teach school curriculum.
There are schools like that for every belief system in existence. Officially recognised, or not.

You're giving me the sh*ts now.
Define the "Australian belief system" for me.

If you were in Australia I would say look around you and notice the difference between it and islamic countries. Whos belief systems are totally different.

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The way I see it, the Australian way of life (or part thereof) is defined by:
Tolerance for ALL people, and if their BELIEFS (not practices) don't interfere with your life directly, then good on 'em.
We are (supposedly) an accepting and open culture, free to believe what we want.

Haha thats a good one. Your not being a very good muslim.

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The feces that you're spewing right now, is contradicting everything that I believe Australia is about.
Who's the hypocrite?

Does it really affect you? The fact that there are muslims in Australia?
If you saw me in the street, you wouldn't even think I was a muslim.
You'd be too busy being scared and 'mirin the jacked fibraz.

You have no comprehension of what Im sayng. You obviously have no understanding of your own religion.

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Nice neg comment by the way.

Thank you. I am pretty confident I described you and your prophet accuratley. I dont care if you muslims neg me. You seem to like freedom of speech unless it is directed at your belief system.

Nice one nutthuggers. I negged him back, not in the first place for being a retard.

swiz · 10-21-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonez3858

There is going to be no getting through to you..I will make one last attempt for my own humor...

Moral people do not rob gun stores
Moral people do not rob people
Moral people HAVE to carry guns because:

Criminals rob stores
Criminals rob moral people
Criminals dont give a F*** about the law (its why they are criminals)
Criminals dont give a F***if you are moral or not
Criminals WILL take your life simply to get your sh**

If moral people dont have guns only the criminals will...

That isnt so hard to understand and its pretty indisputable but I bet with everything in me you are going to make a run at it....

"If moral people don't have guns only the criminals will..."

Well...yeah? If im right in my assumption (correct me if wrong), your saying that if we give the MORAL citizens guns they will be safe amongst the IMMORAL criminals.

Holding a gun is immoral. Anyone who is carrying a weapon and its not part of an organisation that is licensed to carry them is IMMORAL. In the heat of the moment it will lead to poor and that word again: immoral decisions.

We can dance all night like this, but im off to bed mate.

Roger999 · 10-21-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by metal-head-

I live in WA some I'm not sure for other states but it's legal to carry a blade as long as it isn't over 5 inches (could be 6 I've forgotten). Also for defending your house baseball bat ftw.

In Australia, no state(as far as I'm aware of) has blade limits to allow lawful carry of a knife with no excuse, I do believe QLD allows the carry of SAK's and pen knives without excuses though.

http://austlii.law.uts.edu.au/au/leg...999107/s7.html

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WEAPONS ACT 1999 - SECT 7
7 . Controlled weapons

(1) Except as provided in section 10, a person who, without a lawful excuse, carries or possesses a controlled weapon commits an offence.

Penalty: $4 000 or imprisonment for one year.

(2) Except as provided in section 10, a person who has a lawful excuse to carry or possess a controlled weapon commits an offence if the person carries or possesses it in a manner that could reasonably be expected to cause someone —

(a) to be injured or disabled; or

(b) to fear that someone will be injured or disabled.

Penalty: $4 000 or imprisonment for one year.

(3) In this section a lawful excuse to carry or possess a controlled weapon does not include the excuse that the weapon is carried or possessed for defence.

(4) Subsection (3) does not apply to a controlled weapon of a kind prescribed for the purposes of this subsection as long as it is carried or possessed in such circumstances, if any, as the regulations may prescribe.

(5) Regulations under subsection (4) may apply generally or to a particular person or class of persons.

brb taking pictures of everything I cut just incase I need to prove it to the police.