Prohormone Review Thread - Page 71

ElHundo · 08-14-2009, 01:10 PM

Bumpity bump

epaka33 · 08-19-2009, 07:35 PM

Alright, so I just completed my 4 week cycle of ACL Tren Xtreme and thought I'd share with everyone my experience.

When I started, I was 5'11", 221lbs, 22%bf

I did a 6-week stack of Tren and another ACL product called AH-89. I began with 2 weeks of Tren, then started taking both Tren and AH-89 and I'll be finished with my AH-89 in exactly 10 days. The first week of Tren I noticed huge gains in strength and definition without much weight fluctuation. I was extremely tired at the end of the day, but slept really well. About 3 days in, I started experiencing anorgasmia. For those who aren't sure what it is... I had no issues with obtaining an erection, but it was near impossible for me to have an orgasm. Not exactly a bad problem to have for a few days, but it gets annoying after 4 weeks.

In my 2nd week of Tren, the gains were still coming, I put on 5lbs of weight and dropped to 19.5%bf. It seemed like everything was getting bigger; my shoulders, my traps, my lats, bi's and tri's. The only thing that wasn't getting bigger was my waist. I was already down 2 notches on my belt. I started having issues staying awake during the day. I was constantly tired and almost needed to take a nap AND sleep for 8 hours a day just to be coherent.

Week number 3 proved to be extremely difficult. I was so drained of energy all day that by the time I got home, all I wanted to do was sleep. Cardio was near impossible; I just didn't have the energy to do it at all and when I did, the lower back pump made it impossible to run and I had to stick to the bike. I ended up taking off every other day, which was a huge change from my working out 6 days a week.

By week 4, I was totally drained. I had no energy to work out at all. I played 2 hockey games 3 days apart, barely lasted through the 2nd period in the first game and didn't even make it out of the first period without huffing and puffing in the next game. Breathing in general was a difficult task while on the Tren. Just walking up the stairs took more effort than it should have and I'd be out of breath at the top.

At the end of the Tren, I was 233lbs, 19%bf and my $1,200 suit didn't fit anymore because my back was too wide. My energy came back after the 2nd day off Tren and I feel great. My lung capacity is way up, I still feel strong and I have a hockey game tonight.

I still have a little over a week to go on the AH-89, which, I've been told, is manufactured to bump the metabolism and shred pounds. We'll see how that goes. When the AH-89 is complete, I'll be starting an OTC PCT of Showdown and Revive.

I'll keep you updated.

epaka33 · 08-20-2009, 02:10 PM

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I'll keep you updated.

Here's an update. Hockey game last night: Tons of energy. Muscle endurance was down quite a bit though. Really strong short bursts, but I'd get tired pretty quickly. Unlike when I was on Tren, taking a 2 minute breather on the bench allowed me to catch my breath. One thing I noticed was that I wasn't soaking wet at the end of the game. With Tren, the sweat seemed to flood down my face to the point where I couldn't see anymore. I'd constantly be wiping sweat away from my eyes. Last night, it was an average sweat night. Not dry, obviously, but definitely not dripping.

So far, so good.

WyldByll · 08-20-2009, 04:45 PM

^^^gains? pct?

Hambo13 · 08-20-2009, 05:15 PM

so i went into the doctor cause i have to get a toe nail removed and she said that my blood pressure was concerning her. I told her that i was on pro hormones and she said that was causing my blood pressure to go up wich i already knew and that i needed to quit taking them. my nipples are a bit puffy but not bad so i had her look at them beings i was already there and she said that it will go away once i stop taking the pro hormones. i'm taking 3 pills a day of x-tren and she told me to taper down taking two for a few days and then one until i'm out. This is where i'm confused. she said tapering down will get my body to start producing my own testosterone again and that she didn't want me taking my pct products which makes no sense to me beings my pct products will help get my test to normal levels. i will be done with my pills by the time i go see her in ten days and then she said she wants to do a testosterone test and whatever else. At this time won't my test still be higher then normal? she then told me she might have to give me something that will make my test normal.
I told her from what i've read that i need an anti-E and that u can't just quit taking them without proper pct or u can get bad gyno. she told me once again not to take my pct stuff. i kinda wonder if she knows what she's talking about. should i just start taking my nolvadex and other pct stuff or should i wait until after my blood test and c what she recommends. I also didn't tell her that this was my 3rd cycle cause she wasn't to thrilled about me taking pro hormones to begin with

WyldByll · 08-20-2009, 05:22 PM

Although she is a Dr and her recommendations should be taken seriously, she is not sprecified in hormones and probally knows next to nothing about ph's and how to run a proper cycle. I'm guessing each cap is 30mg and youre taking 90mg a day. I hope you have a SERM on hand! Clomid (not nolva) at 75/50/50/25 should do the trick. Puffy sensative nipples are very common on cycle. Are you taking any kind of a prolactin suppressor?

Hambo13 · 08-20-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WyldByll

Although she is a Dr and her recommendations should be taken seriously, she is not sprecified in hormones and probally knows next to nothing about ph's and how to run a proper cycle. I'm guessing each cap is 30mg and youre taking 90mg a day. I hope you have a SERM on hand! Clomid (not nolva) at 75/50/50/25 should do the trick. Puffy sensative nipples are very common on cycle. Are you taking any kind of a prolactin suppressor?

yes i'm taking 90mg a day and this is my second cycle of tren. i have nolvadex and revirsitol for pct. that's what i used for pct last time and had no problem. all i'm taking is pct assist and fish oil while on cycle.

Hambo13 · 08-20-2009, 05:49 PM

I also had slight puffy nipples my last tren cycle but they weren't as bad. it was also a different brand of tren. (tren xtreme) now i'm taking x-tren. after nolva and revirsitol my nips went back to normal.

WyldByll · 08-20-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambo13

yes i'm taking 90mg a day and this is my second cycle of tren. i have nolvadex and revirsitol for pct. that's what i used for pct last time and had no problem. all i'm taking is pct assist and fish oil while on cycle.

After doing some research into nolva as pct for tren products (in fact all progestin ph's), I've found nolva to be a bad choice for pct. It can worsen the effects of tren sides.

Hambo13 · 08-21-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WyldByll

After doing some research into nolva as pct for tren products (in fact all progestin ph's), I've found nolva to be a bad choice for pct. It can worsen the effects of tren sides.

so don't take the nolva? should i get something else to go along with my reversitol cause i only have three days left so clomid won't come in time.

HeatFuelOxygen · 08-21-2009, 01:02 AM

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so don't take the nolva? should i get something else to go along with my reversitol cause i only have three days left so clomid won't come in time.

Take your Nolva. It'll be just fine.

gabecamp · 08-21-2009, 06:09 AM

You can try the nolva but, you realy need to have clomid for tren and all other progestins. Nolva can actualy cause sides when taken after a progestin. Some people get away with it but why risk it.

Hambo13 · 08-21-2009, 05:40 PM

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You can try the nolva but, you realy need to have clomid for tren and all other progestins. Nolva can actualy cause sides when taken after a progestin. Some people get away with it but why risk it.

We have a store in town that sells pro hormones should i just go there and get something over the counter to go along with my reversitol then and just save my nolva for a different cycle. I can get clomid but it takes 18 to 21 days to get here and i'm done with my tren in about 5 days. I'm also going to the doctor around that time where they are going to check my testosterone and she said she might have to put me on something to get my levels back to normal.

WyldByll · 09-11-2009, 03:02 AM

Hey guys, check out my log of SD and Tren. Thanks!...

Adrenolin · 09-11-2009, 12:05 PM

Will do...

WyldByll · 09-11-2009, 01:05 PM

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Will do...

Whaaaaaaaat!?!?!?! Wow dude, you're funking huge man. Like scary big. I don't even know what to say, "nice gains" maybe? But it's like you swallowed a semi for breakfast.

beer n brats · 09-12-2009, 06:48 PM

i wanna run an x-tren/m drol cycle, and this is my plan. can someone plz critique/help me adjust it.

cycle is 6 weeks

x tren 90/90/90/90/90/90

m drol 0/0/0/10/20/20

pct: nolvadex 20/20/20/20 (or i was gonna do 40/20/20/20 cuz i have 40 20 mg tabs)
pct assist at recommended dosage for 4 weeks along with the serm.

ive heard some people suggest to run an AI in either week 3-4 or at the end of the serm and taper down to prevent rebound gyno. is this necessary or not? i thought a serm + test booster was always sufficient. would reversitol + serm be a better choice?

BodyMan123 · 09-12-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WyldByll

Whaaaaaaaat!?!?!?! Wow dude, you're funking huge man. Like scary big. I don't even know what to say, "nice gains" maybe? But it's like you swallowed a semi for breakfast.

He did swallow a semi for breakfast...true story..

Adrenolin · 09-12-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beer n brats

i wanna run an x-tren/m drol cycle, and this is my plan. can someone plz critique/help me adjust it.

cycle is 6 weeks

x tren 90/90/90/90/90/90

m drol 0/0/0/10/20/20

pct: nolvadex 20/20/20/20 (or i was gonna do 40/20/20/20 cuz i have 40 20 mg tabs)
pct assist at recommended dosage for 4 weeks along with the serm.

ive heard some people suggest to run an AI in either week 3-4 or at the end of the serm and taper down to prevent rebound gyno. is this necessary or not? i thought a serm + test booster was always sufficient. would reversitol + serm be a better choice?

what is your current cycle history? what do you have lined up as far as supports?

No need for an AI, as neither Superdrol or X Tren aromatase.

Hambo13 · 09-13-2009, 02:57 AM

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what is your current cycle history? what do you have lined up as far as supports?

No need for an AI, as neither Superdrol or X Tren aromatase.

HOLLY **** ADRENOLIN. i was scrolling down this thread a couple days ago and didn't notice that was u. Damn u'r getn big.

Way_2_Skinny! · 09-14-2009, 12:20 PM

Hey guys I wondering about your thoughts on an

H-Drol+Epistane stack?

What brands would you guys use?

Gaspari/CEL and Havoc/Epistane

Both seem relatively cheap, in all honestly its the PCT which makes them a little pricier but still not too bad. Im thinking 4-6 weeks. Im looking for lean mass gains.

Let me know. I got the PCT covered. It would be my second go here, so I'm by no means experienced. However , first go went fine. 4 years lifting. 5'8 165ish, sometimes more , sometimes less.

REPS FOR A GOOD ANSWER.

beer n brats · 09-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenolin

what is your current cycle history? what do you have lined up as far as supports?

No need for an AI, as neither Superdrol or X Tren aromatase.

cycle history: 6 weeks h drol and 3 weeks mdrol (not together). both went pretty well. i havent tried x tren alone yet, but i wanted to start with that 2 weeks stand alone before the m drol to see how i respond, rather than stack the two right away.

supports i preload HB 10 days @ 1100 mgs. then CS at recommended dosage throughout.

mhbaseball · 09-29-2009, 02:29 PM

I will be taking hemobolin 250 and either ripped tabs or more likely sus 500. Which one out of the two will cut more bodyfat and keep my lean muscle. Also what else should i take besides liv 52 before during and after and milk thistle before and during. What post cycle should I take with hemobolin and sus 500??

Hambo13 · 09-30-2009, 01:50 AM

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I will be taking hemobolin 250 and either ripped tabs or more likely sus 500. Which one out of the two will cut more bodyfat and keep my lean muscle. Also what else should i take besides liv 52 before during and after and milk thistle before and during. What post cycle should I take with hemobolin and sus 500??

Hemobolin 250 has about three compounds in it along with terrestis u don't need to be taken anything else with it. trust me i know. i took hemobolin and be ready to be very tired. what u got for pct?

mhbaseball · 09-30-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hambo13

Hemobolin 250 has about three compounds in it along with terrestis u don't need to be taken anything else with it. trust me i know. i took hemobolin and be ready to be very tired. what u got for pct?

Yeah I took hemobolin and a product called androplex by british dragons last time and got some excellent gains. AND YES I WAS VERY TIRED!!!!! I took liv52 last time before/during/after and am going to take it again. I am not sure what PCT to take with hemobolin. I am thinking nolvadex. What do you guys think I need to take during the cycle for support besides liv52? Heard alot about cycle support and cycle assist they look to have alot of the same ingredients and are these usually taken during the cycle?

replay_kendo · 10-04-2009, 06:19 AM

I've been training for about 3 years now. Never used (pro)hormones. In the last 2 months I barely went to the gym (went on vacation, studying, work, etc.) and I lost A LOT of mass (from 71kg to 64kg in less then 2 months). If I wanna grow back to the way I was, it 'ill probably cost me at least another 3 or 4 months. It's really frustrating..

So my question is. What would be a nice stack for someone who has never tried prohormones before. Over the years I have used many supplements (whey, vitamines, mono creatine, animal pump, weight gainers, etc.), but as I said I've never used prohormones.

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Adrenolin · 10-04-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by replay_kendo

I've been training for about 3 years now. Never used (pro)hormones. In the last 2 months I barely went to the gym (went on vacation, studying, work, etc.) and I lost A LOT of mass (from 71kg to 64kg in less then 2 months). If I wanna grow back to the way I was, it 'ill probably cost me at least another 3 or 4 months. It's really frustrating..

So my question is. What would be a nice stack for someone who has never tried prohormones before. Over the years I have used many supplements (whey, vitamines, mono creatine, animal pump, weight gainers, etc.), but as I said I've never used prohormones.

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Research. IMO you shouldn't be using the steroids just because you slacked off in the gym.

Dallas68 · 10-04-2009, 08:39 PM

well with all the PH's being taken off the market there sure as hell ain't going to be such a lively forum in my eyes...hell you can talk about creatine,amino's, protein and ...um...tuna only so much!...****ing hate these idiots who just take away all these things from the common man for no damn good reason...

anyway going to stock up on some Tren,halo,s-drol and the like before the shipments stop arriving here...one site here already has pulled the PH's off ...bums me the **** out...

the least i have really felt from a pro hormone is E-bolon.. Phera-phlex, H-drol and S-drol are something else though i cant quite remember how i have felt on tren...guess we will see soon.

good thread...will die eventually unfortuantely...well until peoples stockpiles are empty! lol

steeladdict · 10-06-2009, 08:24 PM

I am planning on running phera-tren cycle. My last cycle was tren 30 mg for 30 days. I found it was a very low dose for me. What would be best dose for these two.

For PCT should I go with Nolva or Clomid along with Reversitol and T. Booster.

Please help me to plan this cycle.

mhbaseball · 10-07-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by steeladdict

I am planning on running phera-tren cycle. My last cycle was tren 30 mg for 30 days. I found it was a very low dose for me. What would be best dose for these two.

For PCT should I go with Nolva or Clomid along with Reversitol and T. Booster.

Please help me to plan this cycle.

seems like not much works for u steeladdict. maybe you are expecting too much and/or doing something wrong nutrionally and/or weight lifting bc u should see a 10lb gain w alot of PH's.......
I am starting my 6 week epi/fura cycle monday. cant wait