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What is the Best Diet for Fat Loss that People will Stick To?
There are lots of theories on fat loss. People on these forums give advice about diet all the time.
Not that we would all ever agree to one universal best diet. It would interesting to hear what everyone thinks is the best diet to lose fat.
What is the best diet to lose fat that people will stick to?
It would be nice to be able to give someone a plan that works that they will not be sick of in 2 weeks.
Anyone want to tackle this one?
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10-02-2009, 06:39 PM
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Starvation.
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10-02-2009, 06:40 PM
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In my mind it's a plan that enables you to eat close to normal. Meaning a plan that you'd also follow to maintain weight or gain muscle simply by increasing portions. For me that's a 40/30/30 plan. If you're able to eat a wide variety of foods the diet shouldn't be boring. You may experience hunger for awhile when at a deficit, but that's normal.
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10-02-2009, 06:59 PM
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The best plan is a plan that works.
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10-02-2009, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
It would be nice to be able to give someone a plan that works that they will not be sick of in 2 weeks.
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It's not the matter of getting sick of....
It's how bad you want it.
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10-02-2009, 07:13 PM
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I have to agree with Freebird. The biggest mistake people make is cutting out foods they think they can no longer have...and this makes dieting very boring...
Figure out your calories needed, eat a variety of foods and stick with it if you want results.
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10-02-2009, 07:31 PM
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The best diet is one that gets rid of fat slowly, so you don't end up doing the whole biggest loser thing and dumping 100 pounds and then gaining it all back and then some.
1-2 pounds a week for weight loss. Now as far as fat loss goes, well besides diet it also has to do with body type. Short of a concentration camp diet, losing fat will be different for different people. Some people are sensitive to caffeine and it stimulates a fight or flight response even if they don't feel it and they end up holding on to fat even if they don't feel the sensation. Others can drink all the coffee they want.
Some people eat 6 smaller meals a day, keep their blood sugar more level during the day and lose weight. Others this might not work for.
As far as food goes, throw out processed foods, everything with high fructose corn syrup, and cut out fast foods. Do nothing else but this and some people are quite surprised at their weight loss. No one diet works best for everyone...other than what has already been said...starvation.
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10-02-2009, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ntrllftr
It's how bad you want it.
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The best diet you can stick to is the one that you start when you are prepared to stick with it. It's not about the diet, it's about the dieter.
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10-02-2009, 10:29 PM
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fresh veggies, fresh fruits, and meats right off a wood burning grill is a diet that can never get old!
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10-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ntrllftr
It's not the matter of getting sick of....
It's how bad you want it.
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^^^ This applies to any diet you choose!
As for me the diet I am most likely to stick to is the one that gives me the most consistent results. And in my case that has been Keto. Nothing more frustrating then dieting all week and not getting results, and that has never happened to me on keto. Like most things in life, success breeds more success!
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10-02-2009, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by grillin77
fresh veggies, fresh fruits, and meats right off a wood burning grill is a diet that can never get old!
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Bad thing is...Most people dont like eating just that. If my supper doesnt include potatoes or some kind of noodles or a mix of both...its just not gonna work for us. Wife and kids want things...I eat whats there or I would starve.
If it were just me...I would do ...veggies, meat, potato, salad/vinegar,oil dressing....I would only switch out my meat of choice every night....WOW..that sounded gah..
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10-03-2009, 12:13 AM
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Liposuction would be nice for me..
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10-03-2009, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
Not that we would all ever agree to one universal best diet. It would interesting to hear what everyone thinks is the best diet to lose fat.
Anyone want to tackle this one?
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I can only go with the experience from my last couple of weeks. I started 28th of august 2009 at 220 lbs. I am only 5ft 7 so that was a lot.
At that point I changed my diet to include everything but potatoes, rice, pasta, sugar, bread, soft drinks, preprosessed juice of any kind - basically high carb stuff.
I've since eaten poultry, fish, pork, red meat (in small quantities), vegetables, fruit, nuts, some cheese, sour cream, whole milk, and a lot! of water, and I am not feeling hungry but very energized. I can't imagine I will ever grow tired of this kind of diet - it tastes too good.
Since then I've lost almost 16 lbs, and I am still going. My first goal is 198 lbs. My workout schedule have been very modest. Outdoor work, such as garden work, logging, a little bicycling and then situps, pushups, lunges and squats.
I feel great! Better than in many years. I've never smoked and I am a very moderate drinker, bascially a couple of times each year.
A good advice would be to make a diary of what you eat and count calories. In the beginning I did a mistake and had a chocolate thinking it couldn't harm much. That one chocolate had over 1/3 of my daily calorie need...
Good luck!
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10-03-2009, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
There are lots of theories on fat loss. People on these forums give advice about diet all the time.
Not that we would all ever agree to one universal best diet. It would interesting to hear what everyone thinks is the best diet to lose fat.
What is the best diet to lose fat that people will stick to?
It would be nice to be able to give someone a plan that works that they will not be sick of in 2 weeks.
Anyone want to tackle this one?
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Yeah, eating 1/2 of what they normally eat on a day to day basis until they get used to smaller portions, then lowering down carbs and starches. A steak and salad as Dorian yates used to say.
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10-03-2009, 08:38 AM
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For me cutting and sticking to it but most of all being able to retain the most muscle has been the CKD.
I have tried different diets and lost quicker but I also lost muscle, on CKD I have added muscle while SLOWLY loosing fat and I'm able to eat things that keep me satisfied that I would never dream of eating before.
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10-03-2009, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
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What is the best diet to lose fat that people will stick to?....
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"People" first need to be willing to change eating habits because no fad diet is going to stick.
"People" that grew up drinking soda and eating processed foods are never going to be successful until they break their dependency on sugar.
"People" that think they need bread, potatoes, and sweet corn, layered in butter and gravy, just to survive...ie...sit on the couch and watch TV... are never going to be successful.
The "best diet" is going to have to start and end between the ears, not in the mouth.
What is the best diet? When people learn that the only food worth eating is natural, non-processed food prepared fresh without ANY ADDED SWEETENERS, then they will be successful long term.
FRESH FRUIT, DARK GREEN VEGETABLES & MEAT it is as simple as that.
Most "people" have no idea what good food is because they have been eating crap for so long. It has taken me 30 years to break away. Thank God I have a wife that has shown me the way out of that hell hole.
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10-03-2009, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejthomp
"People" first need to be willing to change eating habits because no fad diet is going to stick.
"People" that grew up drinking soda and eating processed foods are never going to be successful until they break their dependency on sugar.
"People" that think they need bread, potatoes, and sweet corn, layered in butter and gravy, just to survive...ie...sit on the couch and watch TV... are never going to be successful.
The "best diet" is going to have to start and end between the ears, not in the mouth.
What is the best diet? When people learn that the only food worth eating is natural, non-processed food prepared fresh without ANY ADDED SWEETENERS, then they will be successful long term.
FRESH FRUIT, DARK GREEN VEGETABLES & MEAT it is as simple as that.
Most "people" have no idea what good food is because they have been eating crap for so long. It has taken me 30 years to break away. Thank God I have a wife that has shown me the way out of that hell hole.
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Spot on.
Took me many years to have this finally sink in.
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10-03-2009, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ejthomp
"People" first need to be willing to change eating habits because no fad diet is going to stick.
"People" that grew up drinking soda and eating processed foods are never going to be successful until they break their dependency on sugar.
"People" that think they need bread, potatoes, and sweet corn, layered in butter and gravy, just to survive...ie...sit on the couch and watch TV... are never going to be successful.
The "best diet" is going to have to start and end between the ears, not in the mouth.
What is the best diet? When people learn that the only food worth eating is natural, non-processed food prepared fresh without ANY ADDED SWEETENERS, then they will be successful long term.
FRESH FRUIT, DARK GREEN VEGETABLES & MEAT it is as simple as that.
Most "people" have no idea what good food is because they have been eating crap for so long. It has taken me 30 years to break away. Thank God I have a wife that has shown me the way out of that hell hole.
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I pretty much agree...BUT...potatoes are not a bad food. Lots of vitamins and proteins. There is much worse out there to worry about.
Corn is great as well..Maybe not smothered in butter, but its not bad for you...
And most people don want to just eat a meat, some veggies and fruit and call it a night. People like to eat other things. Pizza,spaghetti, lasagna, macNcheese  , sandwiches,cake, icecream,pie, ect..
Me and my 2 boys could "and do" eat LOTS of sandwiches. Maybe not great for us, but its a main part of our food intake. Will I ever get ripped and shredded?..nah, but I will eat within reason and be somewhat happy..
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10-03-2009, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
It would be nice to be able to give someone a plan that works that they will not be sick of in 2 weeks.
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It's already been said in this thread, but I'll reiterate....it's not about getting sick of how you're eating....it starts (and ends) with motivation: How badly do you want to succeed?
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10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mikieson
I pretty much agree...BUT...potatoes are not a bad food. Lots of vitamins and proteins. There is much worse out there to worry about.
Corn is great as well..Maybe not smothered in butter, but its not bad for you...
And most people don want to just eat a meat, some veggies and fruit and call it a night. People like to eat other things. Pizza,spaghetti, lasagna, macNcheese  , sandwiches,cake, icecream,pie, ect..
Me and my 2 boys could "and do" eat LOTS of sandwiches. Maybe not great for us, but its a main part of our food intake. Will I ever get ripped and shredded?..nah, but I will eat within reason and be somewhat happy.. 
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I don't think you get it yet..... Happiness shouldn't come from pizza, lasagna, mac&cheese, cake, ice cream, pie, etc... And I'm not saying you can never have a little of that stuff, but it all is JUNK FOOD and should be the rare exception, not the rule.
If you are eating baked potatoes, plain.... well you are probably the only one. Potatoes to most people are french fries with ketchup or potatoes layered in butter, oil, cheese, etc.. As for corn.... it's a great food for fattening livestock....
It sounds like you are missing an opportunity to teach your boys good nutrition that involves things like broccoli, asparagus, spinach, blueberries, grapefruit, bananas, etc and less of the high carb, processed foods that are the reason for the massive obesity problems we have in this country..
So tell me... these sandwiches that you make.... Whole grain bread? Do you include some dark green leaf lettuce and some tomato too? Maybe a banana to go with that sandwich? Milk for the boys, water for you????
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10-03-2009, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kimm4
I have to agree with Freebird. The biggest mistake people make is cutting out foods they think they can no longer have...and this makes dieting very boring...
Figure out your calories needed, eat a variety of foods and stick with it if you want results.
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This is my favorite so far.
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10-03-2009, 07:11 PM
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I don't think you get it yet..... Happiness shouldn't come from pizza, lasagna, mac&cheese, cake, ice cream, pie, etc... And I'm not saying you can never have a little of that stuff, but it all is JUNK FOOD and should be the rare exception, not the rule.
If you are eating baked potatoes, plain.... well you are probably the only one. Potatoes to most people are french fries with ketchup or potatoes layered in butter, oil, cheese, etc.. As for corn.... it's a great food for fattening livestock....
It sounds like you are missing an opportunity to teach your boys good nutrition that involves things like broccoli, asparagus, spinach, blueberries, grapefruit, bananas, etc and less of the high carb, processed foods that are the reason for the massive obesity problems we have in this country..
So tell me... these sandwiches that you make.... Whole grain bread? Do you include some dark green leaf lettuce and some tomato too? Maybe a banana to go with that sandwich? Milk for the boys, water for you????
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I put a little butter on my potatoe with salt/pepper. I have on occassion put sour cream,cheese,bacon bits.ect.
I tell my kids whats healthy. They ask me all the time and I say..NO this isnt the best thing to eat but its what we have.
My kids and wife are NOT going to make a meal out of broccoli, asparagus,spinach..ect..I would be shot if I put that on their plates.If they dont like it they wont eat it.
We all like fruit, but that is considered a special treat because of the prices on it. So we dont get much these days.
Our sandwiches are normal every day sandwiches. 99% of the time we have no green leaf lettuce. Only my oldes son eats tomatos so we dont buy them often at all. We do try and use whole wheat bread. But what good does that do when you put Mayo,Must,Cheese on them.The meats are prepackaged meats as they are cheaper than deli cuts. Price of things is of importance more so then health here.
Things in our house wont change any time soon unfortunately. If I was alone sure..I could eat what I want with no problems.
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10-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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The fact is that what people like and don't like to eat is almost completely learned. If you grow up eating asparagus, you will like it. And by forcing yourself, and your children to eat good food, you will learn to love it. There are a ton of foods that I love now that I could have never imagined even trying while growing up in Wisconsin.
Bottom line is that we have to buck up and choose to eat right and we have to force our children to make good choices too. Otherwise we may as well just give them a sugar IV bag to carry around and call it good.
One last thing that I had to wrestle with and finally accept .... You need to be willing to pay more to eat less!
It isn't about getting the most food... it is all about getting GOOD food.
I will pay whatever I have to pay to buy good food. I'm not starving here and I'd rather eat less and enjoy the benefits than put crap in my body.
Good Luck!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal
There are lots of theories on fat loss. People on these forums give advice about diet all the time.
Not that we would all ever agree to one universal best diet. It would interesting to hear what everyone thinks is the best diet to lose fat.
What is the best diet to lose fat that people will stick to?
It would be nice to be able to give someone a plan that works that they will not be sick of in 2 weeks.
Anyone want to tackle this one?
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I have lost a little over 60 lbs since March. One thing that I have told everyone that asks what "diet" am I on is - eat now for life. Don't get on any diet you can't stay on or at least alter. Lance Armstrong has an incredible website for tracking calories. Once you have lost a substantial amount of weight you'll start to see what you can and can't eat.
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Starvation.
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CKD. better than starvation.
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I would say a diet that includes a gradual lifestyle change.
Somewhere in the back of my mind I have a mental list of the junk that I don't eat. That list started off small and has gradually grown, naturally over time.
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I'm learning that 'Dirty bulk' followed by real effort at cutting is counter productive.
I think part of this is learning to eat big but eat clean during the time you want to put on muscle and from there a cut should either not be necessary or shouldnt represent much of a step change in diet.
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Diet is a bad word. Choose an array of healthful foods that can be enjoyed for the rest of your life. remove processed carbs, refined foods and sugars from the list..basically anything packaged.
Simple plan:
Early spring: lose a few pounds: 3 small meals/3 big snacks
Summer/early fall: Maintenance
Fall/Winter: add muscle..KEEP EATING CONSTANTLY the good foods chosen.In a nutshell:
Eggs
Beef
Chicken (lite and dark meat)
oatmeal
yams
beef
Eggs
oatmeal
lowfat cheese
whey protein
YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!..What are YOU made of??
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Calorie Counting.
It may nnot be the healthiest of the wyriad ways to loose weight, but it is by far the easiest to stick to. With the iPhone/iPod/PDA/Smartphone software out there, nearly everything is listed as to the amount of calories it contains.
Tell the person that wants to loose weight, they have to get the mindset right, and then stick to the amount of calories they need. Yes, they'll loose muscle, and they'll loose fat, but it the easiest way to stick to a diet that will make them thin.
I prefer to lay out my diet plan, each meal and time of day, with the amounts and tape it to the fridge. It takes more planning and less eating out, but I am botaining my goals by doing it this way. Which is a low Bodyfat, with no muscle loss. In other words, I don't calorie count.
But my wife does and her mindset is such that I can't change that decision of hers.
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This is my favorite so far.
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there are some good guide lines out here...but diet is a personal thing....you must experiment and tweek it....constantly
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