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10-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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#5191
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Originally Posted by Younglifter16
I'm surprised alot of people here don't believe in natural selection / evolution. It doesnt neccesarily debunk God, some believe in both.
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i agree 100% that one doesn't debunk the other and don't see why the existence of both isn't more commonly accepted. or maybe it is but you just don't hear it cause they aren't the people screaming about their beliefs lol...
in fact when it comes to believing in creation, i think that the combination of the 2 makes God seem greater not less. the idea that he create life and then gave those life forms the ability to grow, evolve and adapt into bigger and better things to me is more impressive then the idea that he just snapped his fingers and everything was created as is...
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10-01-2009, 02:24 PM
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#5192
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Originally Posted by jimbob007
Exactly & if there is a heaven & hell, I would rather go down below than go up to sit with a bunch of pedo priests who say a few hell mary's & all their child abuse is forgiven, all rapists, murderers etc who 'find God' in jail etc.
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Hell is described as eternal torment. Unbelievable pain and suffering, non stop. Heaven is eternal paradise, so how could ya choose hell
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10-01-2009, 02:25 PM
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#5193
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Get Diesel Or Die Trying
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathstroke
Hey young.
Before especially right after I became saved I was a progressive creationist. I never believed the earth was 6,000 years old. Then I got into theistic evolution which is similar with the added belief of evolution. There's 2 different intrepretations of that one IIRC. One is God created the first form of life then let it evolve the other which I had a tendency to lean toward was God created life was active in shaping it on earth throughout it's entire history.
I had influences like people, websites, books and studies for believing that.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr469
i agree 100% that one doesn't debunk the other and don't see why the existence of both isn't more commonly accepted. or maybe it is but you just don't hear it cause they aren't the people screaming about their beliefs lol...
in fact when it comes to believing in creation, i think that the combination of the 2 makes God seem greater not less. the idea that he create life and then gave those life forms the ability to grow, evolve and adapt into bigger and better things to me is more impressive then the idea that he just snapped his fingers and everything was created as is...
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I see both points indeed. The concepts of evolution, survival of the fittest, natural selection, etc are all brilliant. They learn more every year about these topics, I really wish everyone would take an anthropology college-level class in this modern day. Everything pieces together and makes perfect sense.
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10-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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#5194
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Originally Posted by toobigfred
I dont believe everything in the bible as well, and I also dont belive that you can do these really bad things and still go to heaven. You are burning in hell. I think that whatever you did should be done to you in the same manner. Like I said, I have my set of beliefs based on what I have learned over the 30 years on this earth and I have seen enough to truly base my faith on what I saw.
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Lmao, looks like Fred has made his own religion. God sets judgment, and you are gonna say who goes to hell? Lol, you are the type that makes atheists hate christians even more.
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10-01-2009, 02:27 PM
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#5195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathstroke
Hey young.
Before especially right after I became saved I was a progressive creationist. I never believed the earth was 6,000 years old. Then I got into theistic evolution which is similar with the added belief of evolution. There's 2 different intrepretations of that one IIRC. One is God created the first form of life then let it evolve the other which I had a tendency to lean toward was God created life was active in shaping it on earth throughout it's entire history.
I had influences like people, websites, books and studies for believing that.
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Chrtistians don't think the earth is 6000 years old, we know it's millions of years old.
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10-01-2009, 02:53 PM
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#5196
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maaaaaa fuuuuuuuuckers
sup sup
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10-01-2009, 03:37 PM
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#5197
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MEP 4 lyfe
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Hey peeps
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10-01-2009, 03:38 PM
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#5198
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Bringer Of Blood
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Hey hbk. Hope the new diet is going well. Me, I've fallen off track with mine. Diet is a mess I've been making a pig out of myself.
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10-01-2009, 03:46 PM
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#5199
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i just had chinese food
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10-01-2009, 03:52 PM
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#5200
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Brings the beef
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J-WaQ
i just had chinese food
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crab rangoon is the best, what did you have
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10-01-2009, 04:12 PM
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#5201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toobigfred
I logged off jsut to see what you typed Dun, I am sure you are the stupidest son of a b*tch I have ever came across, you are the type of "christian' who thinks he is the only right one, and is the one who will be burning in hell for bieng a judgemental hypocrite. Ignore is the best feature for dumb m*therf*ckers like you. I know some on this board liek you, I did at first too, but now I see what others were telling me about.
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I don't judge anyone Fred, I love people. I never once judged you for being uemployed, or morbidly obese, on the contrary, I pm'd you helpful advice. You are the type to talk tough on the net, but if we were face to face, you'd take that bass out of your voice pretty quick.
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10-01-2009, 04:18 PM
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#5202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toobigfred
I logged off jsut to see what you typed Dun, I am sure you are the stupidest son of a b*tch I have ever came across, you are the type of "christian' who thinks he is the only right one, and is the one who will be burning in hell for bieng a judgemental hypocrite. Ignore is the best feature for dumb m*therf*ckers like you. I know some on this board liek you, I did at first too, but now I see what others were telling me about.
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well dun's a nice guy fred
i like the dude - no homo
one of the original posters here
but i understand you two have your own beef
nowhamsayin
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10-01-2009, 04:19 PM
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#5203
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Indy Pro Wrestler
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Actually Fred, steady on. Telling people they'll burn in hell is what gives christians a bad name, ya know?
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10-01-2009, 04:20 PM
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#5204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dun chavez
I don't judge anyone Fred, I love people. I never once judged you for being uemployed, or morbidly obese, on the contrary, I pm'd you helpful advice. You are the type to talk tough on the net, but if we were face to face, you'd take that bass out of your voice pretty quick.
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No need to hint at violence.
Fact is, many of us don't want your unsolicited advice about employment, or family, or anything else.
Sorry, but it's true, at least it is for me, and I think, Fred and Rob, too.
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10-01-2009, 04:20 PM
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#5205
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Terminator Salvation
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lol
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10-01-2009, 04:22 PM
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#5206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Kennedy
No need to hint at violence.
Fact is, many of us don't want your unsolicited advice about employment, or family, or anything else.
Sorry, but it's true, at least it is for me, and I think, Fred and Rob, too.
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I never hinted at violence, I just suggested he would probably tuck his tail if he saw me on the street. I'd actually take him out for lunch, I like Fred. And the advice thing? Fair enough.
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10-01-2009, 04:23 PM
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#5207
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vincit omnia veritas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Kennedy
Fact is, many of us don't want your unsolicited advice about employment, or family, or anything else.
Sorry, but it's true, at least it is for me, and I think, Fred and Rob, too.
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There's a reason I have him on ignore.
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10-01-2009, 04:25 PM
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#5208
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine
There's a reason I have him on ignore.
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You don't have me on ignore putz. If you did, I wouldn't be able to pm you.
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10-01-2009, 04:27 PM
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#5209
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10-01-2009, 04:32 PM
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#5210
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Hey fellow amigos
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10-01-2009, 04:32 PM
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#5211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manditude
Hey fellow amigos 
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ohhhhhhhhhhhh snap 
it's MANDITUDE
where you been ?
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10-01-2009, 04:36 PM
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#5212
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J-WaQ
ohhhhhhhhhhhh snap 
it's MANDITUDE
where you been ?
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 J-WaQ!
I've been very busy with college and assignments and working in the hospital.. things are a bit hectic at the moment but I'll settle into a routine no doubt.
How've things been?
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10-01-2009, 04:39 PM
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#5213
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Bringer Of Blood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toobigfred
crab rangoon is the best, what did you have
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A Pu Pu platter (not the type I normally munch on) at most chinese fast food joints is always good. It has all my favorite appetizers. Crab rangoon is like an orgy in your mouth.
I think my favorite is the orange beef, hunan duck or lobster cantanese (seasonal).
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10-01-2009, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manditude
 J-WaQ!
I've been very busy with college and assignments and working in the hospital.. things are a bit hectic at the moment but I'll settle into a routine no doubt.
How've things been?
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wooooooo man alot fo work
college
hospital
real busy woman you are
ehh as you could see the sea is a bit chaotic but same like always just we see TOO much of GTS aka GotoSleep.
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10-01-2009, 04:41 PM
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#5215
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That's funny... looks like a couple of posts have been deleted. Hmmm.
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10-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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#5216
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toobigfred
crab rangoon is the best, what did you have
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i had lol rich and chicken 
ehh i know it's just plain but it's cheap,$5
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10-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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#5217
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Kennedy
That's funny... looks like a couple of posts have been deleted. Hmmm.
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Wow, you reported me?
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10-01-2009, 04:44 PM
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#5218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dun chavez
Wow, you reported me?
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Not I.
But if you got reported, well, you certainly deserved it. I hope you got a chance to read my reply before it was deleted, and you take the unsolicited advice I posted within it.
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10-01-2009, 04:48 PM
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#5219
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Bringer Of Blood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manditude
 J-WaQ!
I've been very busy with college and assignments and working in the hospital.. things are a bit hectic at the moment but I'll settle into a routine no doubt.
How've things been?
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Hey Mandy. Nice to sea you in the sea. Hey I got something for ya, when I saw it I immediately thought of you:
Hope ya like it!
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Originally Posted by ...Kennedy
That's funny... looks like a couple of posts have been deleted. Hmmm.
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Hmmmm. Damn, before Fred can read. Well for the best, it'd have royally pissed him off.
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10-01-2009, 04:49 PM
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#5220
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Get Diesel Or Die Trying
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deathstroke eat my own pu pu platter.
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