Prepping for a cycle... M-DROL / H-DROL STACK (PH 1st timer log)

[TPD01883]

Ok well also i forgot to answer this earlier. The reason people do not take anabolic pump or creatine while on cycle is because a lot of steroids cause you to get an insane 'pump'. Which feels awesome, but at times is too much, especially around your quads / lower back. The extra pump from creatine or anabolic pump would just add to this and make it really unbearable. Even on havoc i could bearly sit in my car seat driving home after squat day it hurt so bad lol.

[TPD01883]

Originally Posted by 666_Jinx_999

how would you space those doses throughout the day... btw i am also taking cycle support, along with livercare and extra milk thistle.

I would do like...25mg h-drol on wakeup, 25mg h-drol/10mg m-drol preworkout, 25mg h-drol pre bedtime later on. and when you start taking the mdrol at 20mg, i'd dose it 10mg morning, 10mg preworkout.

Some people like to dose orals like dianabol all at one time, the spike gives you a high blood level at some point or another which has benefits towards effective stimulation of the androgen receptors. Also with androgens that have a short halflife. Dosing in the morning can postpone suppression somewhat. Your body produces most of its test in the early hours of sleep so dosing upon waking would put the spikes of androgen hormones as far from each other as possible

[WantToBeStudly]

I really think he should go with the staggered approach I mentioned. More gains, less sides, happier liver.

[666_Jinx_999]

well the anabolic pump was on sale and i stocked up so i can take it off cycle : )

thanks again.

right now i am leaning on using mdrol for my first cycle and starting monday... i will do three weeks of 20/20/20. i am already loading up on livercare, cycle support, and taurine.

gonna save the hdrol for later when i wanna get leaner.

[WantToBeStudly]

Originally Posted by 666_Jinx_999

well it was on sale and i stocked up so i can take it off cycle : )

thanks again.

right now i am leaning on using mdrol for my first cycle and starting monday... i will do three weeks of 20/20/20. i am already loading up on livercare, cycle support, and taurine.

gonna save the hdrol for later when i wanna get leaner.

^ Better idea!!!

[TPD01883]

Aye much better. 2-3 cycles with 10-12 lb gains that are easily maintained will yeild much more muscle than 1 all out balls to the wall cycle. Also if you're super intent on gaining a lot of mass consider a cycle of test cypionate. 10 weeks, w/ m-drol the first 3 to kick start it.

[666_Jinx_999]

thank you - your advice is appreciated and i look foward to sharing my progress with you.

[kta0008]

Originally Posted by WantToBeStudly

You aint in Cali anymore....where'd you skip off to

Here is an example of a double Superdrol / Phera stack I think might serve you well. I think this is preferable; less sides and longer so you have more time to build. It should also be less harsh on your liver. Remember, you only have one liver for life.....thats it!!! Also I've heard other people suggest that if you go longer like this your body becomes more used to having muscle and won't part with it so easily - of course you must still do a proper PCT. Be sure to run cycle support all through this, preferably starting two weeks early. But if you just want to jump in and start right away be sure to also order the cycle support with it; cycle support has ingredients including hawthorn berry and others which will help keep blood pressure low and stable. And if you still have some extra money lying around pick up some Thermolife liver longer. It's $40 so I don't know if you want to spend that kind of money, but if you have the extra cash just go ahead. Here is the link:

http://www.tfsupplements.com/store/c...t_detail&p=489

Good luck and get big!!!!

What would a good pct cycle be then?

[perfectkingz]

Originally Posted by 666_Jinx_999

ok a little bit about my history:

i am 5'8" and am 197lbs @ 12.5%bf
lifting on and on for 10 years
never done any PH or AAS before

no health problems... resting pulse is 50, bp is 120/60. liver enzymes are spectacular.

i am 32 yrs old... i dont drink or smoke. i dont need to work, i am a full time college student (ex-military using gi bill). i am a trained medical professional and am a biology major two quarters away from my B.S..

i was looking around on these boards and saw this one guy that was completely stacked (huge)... he said he used both h-drol and m-drol togher. this is why i decided to do both... i know there are other products out there that have these thwo PH's in them - some with additional ones.

so i figured what the hell - balls to the walls right!!!

anyway... from my understanding anabolic pump increases nutrient flow into the muscles... if this will fascilitate an abundance of sugar and amino acids during protien synthesis then why not take it??????

to me thats like someone saying why take creatine when you're on steriods.

anyway... as stated before keep the drama for your mama... i am totally interested in solid advice... EXPERIENCE IS APPRECIATED.

thank you!!!

im 5'8 as well currently at 189lbs 20 yrs old lifting for 4 years. never used aas but i use ph. using mdrol and hdrol is + anabolic pump is one of the best stacks you will ever use strenght gain on combining those 3 are insane.im talking about 7-15 lbs in inly 3 weeks.but im not perfect at using ph..but i know enough to preserve my health. honestly man use these products only for 3 weeks on and 6-7 weeks of this stuff screws you up..truth is even with a liver support or pct your body will still not be hundred percent.(internally)..im not saying you get screw just after one cycle..but futher down the raod at least on you 3rd or fourth cycle..just be carefull you kno