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Old 09-18-2009, 04:14 AM   #1021
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:14 PM   #1022
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hey ive been following your log, very impressive.

i have a question about cardio. i remember you saying you did your cardio a few hrs after your lift. i have a few questions concerning this though, if you dont mind.

1. with work, im unable to go to gym and then cardio a few hrs later. cardio is either going to be after i lift, or before work in the morning. which would you suggest, AND if in morning, eat anything before the cardio?

2. what type of cardio do you use? obviously youve been able to maintain a lot of muscle while leaning out.

thanks and good luck with your training with Jim.
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hey ive been following your log, very impressive.

i have a question about cardio. i remember you saying you did your cardio a few hrs after your lift. i have a few questions concerning this though, if you dont mind.

1. with work, im unable to go to gym and then cardio a few hrs later. cardio is either going to be after i lift, or before work in the morning. which would you suggest, AND if in morning, eat anything before the cardio?

2. what type of cardio do you use? obviously youve been able to maintain a lot of muscle while leaning out.

thanks and good luck with your training with Jim.
Thanks!

In your situation, I would do it after you workout. I would have a whey shake between the weight training and cardio then eat when I got home. I used to do HIIT 3 times a week and very low intensity cardio 3 other days of the week, never on an empty stomach. Cordova now has me doing high intensity cardio (not necessarily HIIT) 3 times a week for 20-30 minutes a session and that's all. It's a bit harder, but it's only 3 times a week so I like it! He also prefers it if I do my cardio between my 5th in 6th meal (I'm eating 6 meals a day now).
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In your situation, I would do it after you workout. I would have a whey shake between the weight training and cardio then eat when I got home. I used to do HIIT 3 times a week and very low intensity cardio 3 other days of the week, never on an empty stomach. Cordova now has me doing high intensity cardio (not necessarily HIIT) 3 times a week for 20-30 minutes a session and that's all. It's a bit harder, but it's only 3 times a week so I like it! He also prefers it if I do my cardio between my 5th in 6th meal (I'm eating 6 meals a day now).
cool, sounds good.

now with this knowledge, im a shoo-in to take Top 5 at the Olympia
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:46 AM   #1025
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Thanks!

In your situation, I would do it after you workout. I would have a whey shake between the weight training and cardio then eat when I got home. I used to do HIIT 3 times a week and very low intensity cardio 3 other days of the week, never on an empty stomach. Cordova now has me doing high intensity cardio (not necessarily HIIT) 3 times a week for 20-30 minutes a session and that's all. It's a bit harder, but it's only 3 times a week so I like it! He also prefers it if I do my cardio between my 5th in 6th meal (I'm eating 6 meals a day now).
What would be the difference of when you do the cardio I wonder? Like what would make it better between 5-6 and not 3-4 lol.. I'm sure he has a great reason..
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:34 PM   #1027
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wow man how do you handle such high volumes. you are doing 15-20 sets for almost every muscle... twice in 10 days(you say you do 4 days on,1 off..and then start over)

wtf am i not pushing myself hard enough in the gym?
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cool, sounds good.

now with this knowledge, im a shoo-in to take Top 5 at the Olympia
Ha, I never said it's the best way but that's what I would do if I had the two options.

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Pretty sure it has to do with how the carbs/fats are set up in my diet and to also boost my metabolism a bit overnight...that would be my guess.

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wow man how do you handle such high volumes. you are doing 15-20 sets for almost every muscle... twice in 10 days(you say you do 4 days on,1 off..and then start over)

wtf am i not pushing myself hard enough in the gym?
Yeah...even so, I didn't push myself hard enough during those workouts. I was never sore (besides my shoulders). Ever since I started training with Jim it has hurt getting out of bed, lol. My split is totally different now but everything still gets training twice every 10 days.

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hey at risk of sounding like a homo, u are my goal dude, for real.

Ive never done 1 bodypart a day but im definitely going to soon.

and i read the beginning of your log and then jumped to the end are u still restricting cals?
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hey at risk of sounding like a homo, u are my goal dude, for real.

Ive never done 1 bodypart a day but im definitely going to soon.

and i read the beginning of your log and then jumped to the end are u still restricting cals?
Thanks!

Yeah I'm still cutting down, there is work to do!
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Hey man great news that your pushin even harder, Got a few questions for ya

1) I have started following your training program and was wondering if training shoulders by themselves is a good idea if i have been only been lifting for 7 months. maybe train abs on the same day?

2) My arms are lacking, anything i should do to bring them up?

3) My quads are really big compared to the rest of my body, i am abit hesitant on training them on their own day, i will look silly. Would you advise skipping leg day until the rest of my body catches up? Or just continue training them?

4) At my gym we dont have a hammer strength press, anything else i can do to get that "pectorials to tie into the shoulder" (Well similiar to what you said)? Would a really wide grip on a normal bench press give a similar effect?

5) why not take carbs after a workout? I have always been told have some sugar in them to replace your glycogen stores? I usually have a banana, tbls honey and 24g of protein, Not the optimal shake?

6) any reason you dont use gold standard whey isolate?

7) Thanks for the pancake recipe it kicks ass!

Thanks man, you are a legend. srs
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Hey man great news that your pushin even harder, Got a few questions for ya

1) I have started following your training program and was wondering if training shoulders by themselves is a good idea if i have been only been lifting for 7 months. maybe train abs on the same day?

You could do abs after if you have some energy left over, but you do not have to. Abs don't need a whole lot of attention (Once a week is perfectly fine and doing them on a day such as shoulders would probably be best! Mainly because you shouldn't have too much energy left over from any other day ). Shoulders having their own day, I now realize, is not necessary. I know that is what I did for the longest time (and I have great shoulders) but with my new split that Jim has me doing, I have shoulders and arms on the same day and they are both receiving PLENTY of work, with less volume!

2) My arms are lacking, anything i should do to bring them up?

Without going into detail about how Jim is doing my training, you may be over training them. Yeah I know, I said before that I didn't really believe in it but what Jim has told me so far has made sense in that I over trained my shoulders and arms A LOT before. Now that I'm not, they are expected to grow! I'd suggest fairly low volume (around 6 sets for each your biceps and your triceps, 12 sets total) but at a very high intensity! And just be careful as far as how close you train them to your chest and back days.

3) My quads are really big compared to the rest of my body, i am abit hesitant on training them on their own day, i will look silly. Would you advise skipping leg day until the rest of my body catches up? Or just continue training them?

Train legs on their own day and still train them as hard as you possibly can. Most people have lagging legs, having big legs is a very good thing in bodybuilding! Over time your upper body will catch up, your legs can only grow so much so fast! You may want to train at a higher volume and do some high intensity cardio (sprinting) to burn them out from time to time.

4) At my gym we dont have a hammer strength press, anything else i can do to get that "pectorials to tie into the shoulder" (Well similiar to what you said)? Would a really wide grip on a normal bench press give a similar effect?

Yes the wide grip will provide the same results just be careful when lifting heavy!

5) why not take carbs after a workout? I have always been told have some sugar in them to replace your glycogen stores? I usually have a banana, tbls honey and 24g of protein, Not the optimal shake?

I never said not to take carbs directly after a workout, I just don't. I have carbs with my post workout meal which I usually eat about an hour after I workout. Anything from oats, rice, or potatoes for me.

6) any reason you dont use gold standard whey isolate?

Protein = Protein. It all comes down to taste for me! (Like carbs, I will find myself skipping that post workout shake as well. So some days I won't even take any whey!)

7) Thanks for the pancake recipe it kicks ass!

No problem man, I miss them! lol

Thanks man, you are a legend. srs

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Hey man, I have a quick question. I'm on my first cut and my macros for right now are as follows:
2440 cals
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I'm doing cardio twice a week, some running for 20-30 minutes on Monday and the HIIT on Saturday.

My question is this: I noticed that on your bodyspace you went from 194 lbs to 182lbs quite quickly (16 days)...Now I've heard all over the place that if you're losing 2 lbs a week then it's too much. Is this just water weight or something? I myself have dropped about 2-3 pounds the past few days. Also, how necessary are re-feed days? I'm planning on having two (one Wednesday and one Sunday since those are the days I do 0 activity). Are they just for energy or are they to make sure you aren't dropping weight too fast? Because I don't mind not having energy in the gym, I still get done everything I need to regardless of my energy level.

On a side note, rockin' body! I hope I get to your level one day.You'll always remain one of my top inspirations.
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Hey Josh, I saw that you listed Slim Xtreme as one of the supplements you take. Not sure if you're still taking it, but I just wanted to give you a heads up on some stuff I saw in the supplement section... it looks like SX might contain an unlisted designer stimulant.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119112401
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119287771

Anyway, keep up the hard work man!
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Hey man, I have a quick question. I'm on my first cut and my macros for right now are as follows:
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I'm doing cardio twice a week, some running for 20-30 minutes on Monday and the HIIT on Saturday.

My question is this: I noticed that on your bodyspace you went from 194 lbs to 182lbs quite quickly (16 days)...Now I've heard all over the place that if you're losing 2 lbs a week then it's too much. Is this just water weight or something? I myself have dropped about 2-3 pounds the past few days. Also, how necessary are re-feed days? I'm planning on having two (one Wednesday and one Sunday since those are the days I do 0 activity). Are they just for energy or are they to make sure you aren't dropping weight too fast? Because I don't mind not having energy in the gym, I still get done everything I need to regardless of my energy level.

On a side note, rockin' body! I hope I get to your level one day.You'll always remain one of my top inspirations.
Yeah, I had an awesome rebound I suppose. The first couple weeks, when starting a diet, you will usually lose more than the 1-2lbs but I lost quite a bit. It's mostly bloat. Like I said, when I eat, I eat a lot! Lots of sodium and carbs. Not that I cut carbs or sodium on my new diet, but it did get cleaned up dramatically. That combined with Jim's training has me dropping fast but I'm finally starting to adjust to it. Plus, I'm not cutting for the hell of it and I do have a deadline to meet, as far as getting completely shredded!

As far as re-feeds, I used them back in June and I thought they got me through plateaus. But Jim doesn't have me re-feeding. From what I understand, re-feeds are just there to boost leptin levels back up a bit, nothing more. Sure you will have an awesome workout the day after as well!

But about your diet, I would lower your fats/protein and put in more carbs, personally. 100g carbs is nothing and it's no wonder you have no energy.
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Thanks!

In your situation, I would do it after you workout. I would have a whey shake between the weight training and cardio then eat when I got home. I used to do HIIT 3 times a week and very low intensity cardio 3 other days of the week, never on an empty stomach. Cordova now has me doing high intensity cardio (not necessarily HIIT) 3 times a week for 20-30 minutes a session and that's all. It's a bit harder, but it's only 3 times a week so I like it! He also prefers it if I do my cardio between my 5th in 6th meal (I'm eating 6 meals a day now).
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What's the difference from high intensity cardio that you're doing to HIIT?

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What's the difference from high intensity cardio that you're doing to HIIT?

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Nothing really, in the end all that matters is the heart rate. I'm actually doing HIIT again because I find it easier to get up to the heart rate that Jim is recommending me to get to, which I have still yet to get to that heart rate (it's very, very hard).
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Nothing really, in the end all that matters is the heart rate. I'm actually doing HIIT again because I find it easier to get up to the heart rate that Jim is recommending me to get to, which I have still yet to get to that heart rate (it's very, very hard).
What heart rate is that?

220- your age, is around 200 what percentage of 200 do you need to get to?
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What heart rate is that?

220- your age, is around 200 what percentage of 200 do you need to get to?
He wants me to average 80%-90% for 30 minutes straight. So far I've failed 5 out of 5 times, lol. I keep getting around 165bpm (average) for 20 minutes, my lungs just can't take it at the moment!

Then again, we did take the whole week off last week, as far as cardio goes. So I've yet to really get a chance to build up to it. Still dropping weight though, which is what matters most!
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My question to you is, approximately how much water do you drink a day. Also, what is your stance on the anabolic diet (if you have read about it).
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I probably drink about 1.5-2 gallons of water a day. I don't know too much about the anabolic diet but I remember reading that initially you cut out almost all carbs, I would never recommend that.
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r u taking the same supplements from when u first posted?
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do you think you got bigger and conquered some weaknesses (if any haha) from training with Jim



i was also reading you take size-on during your training how much water do you mix with it? i read on the label 24oz but that seems like alot >_<

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