why jay shouldnt have won...

[agvares]

*It should have been* — indeed there's a crucial necessity to ban that kind of guys

[Yonkersguy]

Originally Posted by Hardknock

What people are you referring to? If you are referring to minorities then that's pretty thick of you.

Racism exist due to it being injected into people that cannot think for themselves, youth. It exist because adults cannot shake those imbedded roots and see past color for one moment to learn the person instead of listening to the stereo....types.
There are other reasons but these are the main ones.

You're asking who I'm referring to when I say "you people"? if you read my post, I was referring to the people who scream "racism" every time something doesn't go their way. So, if that means minorities...so be it.

and, by calling me thick....you just proved that you're either a bitter minority...or a bleeding heart liberal.

[BuffGuy123]

ALl the Culter haters got OWNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD!! U guys got poooned noobs!

[jethro9191]

It is racist to say someone was picked the winner because of their skin color.

[Yonkersguy]

Originally Posted by jethro9191

It is racist to say someone was picked the winner because of their skin color.

and this is exactly what the op did in this forum....

[ChampKind]

jay deserved the win and cake is awesome

[Luke_G]

LOL at racism call.

Why did Coleman beat Cutler so many times?

Must have been pro black judges back then

[youngbuck88]

was never a fan of jay..till this year..holy ****!

[bransthaman]

Originally Posted by NextBlGThing

I don't have a problem with jay winning because he was conditioned and jacked but his wide waist and weird abs ruin his entire physique for me. Branch may be the hardest working current ifbb pro but his physique is downright ugly and not proportional.

We all have our own opinion and in mine kai was the best on stage with all around beastly look with aesthetics

Dude why dont you just put on your high heals and lip stick theres no way that that physique jay and branch brought last night was ugly? am i smelling a little hate or does the hater blockers need to be activated?

Dex? to soft but looked good had him 2nd even tho hes cocky as fuk
Branch? how can you get any better? dude had it flowing
Phil? To dam bad he got sick sat.. i had him over dex
Kia? If the improvements keep going like they are is gonna be crazy 2010 not as sharp
Victor? Have to admit he was much more improved than the 09 arn
Ronney Rockle>Wolf I am not a wolf hater all i am saying is once your 16 its gonna take a while to redem yourself Wish he could have came in those 20 lbs less? prolly would have been 6th or 7th

[BreakingPoint8]

What happened to Dennis Wolfe? 16th place? Wow

[JpRus]

Jay deserved it. When he came out during the finals I knew he won.

[AlphaMaleLilJay]

Originally Posted by sammcl

He won because he fixed his symmetry problems, brought in his waist and generally looked awesome.

Nahhh... it couldn't be all of that! It has to be some other assortment of collected assumed conspiracy garbage. Jay Cutler could have been competing in a Mr. Podunk Hillbillyville against a pre-teen novice class, and there would be a contingent of droids to bash on Jay between their sets of 135 bench presses 7 days a week.

Originally Posted by Fran_McCarthy

i don't think he fixed his symmetry problems... I think they worsened slightly (in the back, between the arms), but he made up for it with the biggest, most striated fuking thighs he ever had, with ridiculously full delts and chest, and amazing, amazing conditioning

He just looked his widest, fullest, and most ripped ever

Fran... I knew you'd come around. Fran leads me to believe you're a girl, so I'll go by the assumption that you've fallen victim to those deep blue eyes and bed-head hair... irresistable!

Originally Posted by SluggoSteel

thank you. im not sayin thats the sole reason he won. im sayin he won not because he literally is the number one best bodybuilder in the world just because he came in more conditioned than his previous showings, but for a combination of other bull **** reasons

Huh... you lost me at thank you.

Originally Posted by Yonkersguy

Guess it was a matter of time before some of you idiots scream "racism"! I mean really...what the hell is wrong with you? Can't you just accept it for what it is? I mean, the better guy won last night..plain and simple! but no...you can't be gracious and lose gracefully....you have to automatically scream "racism"! Is that your only defense? People that do this are the reason there is racism in the first place...and you should all be banned from the boards so your poisonous opinions don't have to be entertained here.

Get a life...and learn a lesson.

Come on... don't you know this is the standard fallback in the playbook of identity politics and evidently now even athletics? No No No... in stead of coping with the fact the best bodybuilder won (gasp!) and was judged with a perfect score - IT MUST BE because of the pigmentation of his skin! Hello 1800's southern colonies mentality... meet 2009; there are still a few morons hanging around, but for the most part you'll realize there is a majority of human beings able to compute the fact the most conditioned, fullest, hardest and complete athlete won.

Originally Posted by Grinners

Lol, he won because he was placed first in EVERY round by EVERY judge!

AKA PERFECT SCORE




this scorecard should truly silence those who claim he didn't deserve the win... it wasn't even close!

"Should".... being the operative word. See... for those people that don't believe man landed on the moon, and get tucked in at night by their mom with their foil hat firmly placed on their head, no amount of irrefutable face-smacking objective factual information will change their minds.

Originally Posted by Renden

He has 1 arm 6 inches bigger than the other..................

Interesting... what were you and Jay talking about as you slipped a measuring tape around his arm and recorded his stats? Oh... what? Wait a minute... you were never alone with Jay, measuring his arms, and making certain of your unfounded claims? Hmm... thanks so much for your invaluable offering of wisdom in this succession of mind stimulating posts; I find myself wiser in light of your staggering collective of facts. Your awareness of Jay's most detailed and intimate measurements are shocking.

Originally Posted by BuffGuy123

ALl the Culter haters got OWNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD!! U guys got poooned noobs!

LOL... that's why their so mad! I LOVE IT MAN!

Originally Posted by ChampKind

jay deserved the win and cake is awesome

Actually, he didn't have any cake... just a little food at the Victory Gala VIP Buffet, and he had some sushi brought into his after party at Planet Hollywood, lol.

Originally Posted by youngbuck88

was never a fan of jay..till this year..holy ****!

Yeah... perfection tends to have that type of result on people.




One of the top take aways from this entire week's exeperience in my opinion, was the fact Jay did not bring many people's prophecies to fruition with a retirement accouncement after earning his third Sandow. This is both confusing and inspiring, in light of his long proclaimed eventual ambition of accruing three victories and his early on projected retirement age of approximitely 33 years old. The inspiring part however, was the fact without missing a beat when asked by Bob about his future plans after being announced Mr. Olympia, and then again at the Victory Gala, followed by a third mention and similar response at this morning's Superstar Seminar - that "You have to get 3, before you can get 4," quote from Jay (accompanied by more overt mentioning of his desire to continue competing) opened the door and shed some light on Jay's vigor and unmatched passion for his chosen career.

[stealth_swimmer]

Jay didn't win cus he improved. He won cus he looked the best.

[Clay Gutler]

Jay's physique sort of reminds me of this villain from batman....

[jayvee]

While sluggo doesnt seem to have the best tact, I can see what he's saying in regards to jay basically only improving on his not so great showings of more recent comps. while I feel he had improved, and was very good from the front, I still feel he needed improvement from the back. The scorecards dont mean a heck of alot to me to be honest, as they have been notorious for being inconsistent across the board - which may happen in a subjective sport, but for instance, when branch is beating dexter in a posing round, its pretty average justification.

My main problem with jay winning, is that apart for some thicker size here and there, I dont think he beats Dex in many comparison poses at all. which is essentially what should be getting judged. and certainly he should not be winning with straight 5's. Its nothing personal - in fact, Iv met them both, and Jay to me came across as a far nicer and more graceful guy - but in comparisons, i still have a hard time seeing where Jay won, and how by such a margin. But at the end of the day, its only my opinion in a subjective sport, and good luck to him. I still think Branch got a huge gift, and I wouldve had ronnie rockel up in the top 5 - he looked amazing..

[SluggoSteel]

Originally Posted by jayvee

While sluggo doesnt seem to have the best tact, I can see what he's saying in regards to jay basically only improving on his not so great showings of more recent comps. while I feel he had improved, and was very good from the front, I still feel he needed improvement from the back. The scorecards dont mean a heck of alot to me to be honest, as they have been notorious for being inconsistent across the board - which may happen in a subjective sport, but for instance, when branch is beating dexter in a posing round, its pretty average justification.

My main problem with jay winning, is that apart for some thicker size here and there, I dont think he beats Dex in many comparison poses at all. which is essentially what should be getting judged. and certainly he should not be winning with straight 5's. Its nothing personal - in fact, Iv met them both, and Jay to me came across as a far nicer and more graceful guy - but in comparisons, i still have a hard time seeing where Jay won, and how by such a margin. But at the end of the day, its only my opinion in a subjective sport, and good luck to him. I still think Branch got a huge gift, and I wouldve had ronnie rockel up in the top 5 - he looked amazing..

thank you again. people who are posting the scorecards are sooo stupid. this sport doesnt use physical activity in a game to score points. THE JUDGES WHOM IVE BEEN CALLING BIASED ARE THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE OUT THE POINTS! IF THEY WANT JAY TO WIN OF COURSE HE WILL GET THE BEST SCORE......

[SluggoSteel]

im not racist either. im tellin the truth. and look, branch placed second too. despite kai and victor beating him at the arnold, they get 4th and 6th and branch gets second. pfffff

[Penile_Dementia]

Originally Posted by SluggoSteel

im not racist either. im tellin the truth. and look, branch placed second too. despite kai and victor beating him at the arnold, they get 4th and 6th and branch gets second. pfffff

Except Kai and Vic were on at the Arnold, and a bit off at the O, and branch was considerably better...

[notinheritable]

Finally, 2 white guys in the top 3. LOL... There's no racism in pro bodybuilding, I should know, I'm a South African. Homosexuality is a different story though.....

[tropo]

Originally Posted by NioRaman

Because he is white? Are you ****ing retarded? There have been 2!!!! 8 Time BLACK Mr O's. And since a black guy didn't win? It's racist?

This is exactly why there is racism in the world....

Yeah, 17 out of the last 25 years have yielded black Mr Olympias. The OP is seriously retarded.

[tropo]

Originally Posted by pedro0100

did you really accuse the judges of racism? What an a** hole

No V-taper? Really??

What is going on with his left delt? There seems to be some sort of strange seperation there which is new. I noticed this while watching him pose but no one mentioned it.

[tropo]

Originally Posted by o_rly?????

Hey Sluggo

Has anyone ever won any Olympia with a 15 point total before??? Ever?

The stupidity of your post is highlighted by the dominance of the win.

Previously 20 was the lowest score. 4 rounds x 5 = 20.

Ronnie achieved this in '99, '00 and '03

[tropo]

Originally Posted by mikecart1

Makes me even more happy I got to witness perfection (wasn't into bodybuilding during the Flex years or early Ronnie years if he got a perfect score, know Flex did before).

Flex has never won the Olympia so I can say with certainty that he never achieved a perfect score.

[tropo]

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleLilJay

One of the top take aways from this entire week's exeperience in my opinion, was the fact Jay did not bring many people's prophecies to fruition with a retirement accouncement after earning his third Sandow. This is both confusing and inspiring, in light of his long proclaimed eventual ambition of accruing three victories and his early on projected retirement age of approximitely 33 years old. The inspiring part however, was the fact without missing a beat when asked by Bob about his future plans after being announced Mr. Olympia, and then again at the Victory Gala, followed by a third mention and similar response at this morning's Superstar Seminar - that "You have to get 3, before you can get 4," quote from Jay (accompanied by more overt mentioning of his desire to continue competing) opened the door and shed some light on Jay's vigor and unmatched passion for his chosen career.

Has anyone ever had to work so hard to get respect? Does he now have to win a 4th Sandow to prove the first 3 were not flukes?

He's won the tightest Olympia contest ever in convincing fashion, yet he still doesn't get the respect he deserves.

[blulew77]

Originally Posted by Clay Gutler

Jay's physique sort of reminds me of this villain from batman....

Ha ha! Classic! I love it.

[RickRoss]

Originally Posted by NioRaman

This is exactly why there is racism in the world....

Stfu. Black ppl were chilling in africa minding there own goddamn business till racist fukks came along, forced them on ship to the land of the free to be called ******s, lynched, tarred and feathered, hosed down, bombed, etc all because they were black.

The reason there is racism in the world is because certain ppl are intolerant towards and ignorant of other races which aren't their own.

[B-Neva]

what?

[Audemars]

Originally Posted by NextBlGThing

I don't have a problem with jay winning because he was conditioned and jacked but his wide waist and weird abs ruin his entire physique for me. Branch may be the hardest working current ifbb pro but his physique is downright ugly and not proportional.

We all have our own opinion and in mine kai was the best on stage with all around beastly look with aesthetics

Kai certainly deserved the ASC and I was personally suprised at how well he showed. And while he looked good here, he didn't look as good at the O (in my opinion) as he did at the ASC. Based on the pics I've seen, I do feel Jay deserved to win. And while I am a fan of Jay's and feel he was a good Mr. O, I am not necessarily a fan of his physique. His back did look off for some reason especially in the rear lat spread. And his waistline, while improved, still is unappealing - especially in the abs & theighs pose. But he looked better in basically all the other poses.

[jugglingfreak]

Hello, my name is SluggoSteel...

[BuffGuy123]

Jay won!!!!!!!!! U got owned...... GTFO...