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09-17-2009, 11:31 AM
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Increased risk of abcess, infection, post injection pain.
Try not to inject in one muscle more than once a week. It won't kill ya if you do more than that, but it'll bring your risks up a lil.
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09-18-2009, 12:23 PM
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#3332
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deca/susta
hey...its written dont use sustanon in your first cycle...
can i know the reason?...
many people used it and they had got best results out of it...
plz tellme logically why i shouldnot stack it with testa?...
and telmme...
i want to use Deca/susta sack for 6 weeks...
250 mg or sustanon and 100 mg of deca...
one thing more test gives you a bloat look while sustanon doesnot....
plz answer in detail..
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09-18-2009, 12:27 PM
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#3333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zunair84
hey...its written dont use sustanon in your first cycle...
can i know the reason?...
many people used it and they had got best results out of it...
plz tellme logically why i shouldnot stack it with testa?...
and telmme...
i want to use Deca/susta sack for 6 weeks...
250 mg or sustanon and 100 mg of deca...
one thing more test gives you a bloat look while sustanon doesnot....
plz answer in detail..
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sustanon is test, there are 4 test different esters in it. Sust isn't the best for a first cycle because of the amount of injections a person will need to keep blood levels stable.
6 weeks is a bit short for a sust cycle, 8-10 ideally. First cycle should not include deca, one compound so you know how you react. Deca can be very supressive. Bloating can be controlled. pretty much all tests will give you bloat to some degree.
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09-21-2009, 04:36 PM
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do pro's stay on the gear all year round? (excluding hgh) do they not give there body's a break for a few weeks a year.
if so how do the pros manage to remain fertile and have kids if they are on gear all year round? wouldn't there sperm count not be left dismally low/ non existent? or do they just use hcg to keep there balls in the game as if nothing happened.
what happens if you are in the middle of a cycle and you start getting gyno and you are taking your aromasin SERM to fight it but it doesn't go away? do you stop the cycle short and start pct early, or up the dosage?
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09-22-2009, 03:34 AM
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When test levels are suppressed after a 10 week cycle of test, what are the chances of experiencing sex problems, i.e low/loss of libido during PCT?
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09-22-2009, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by allenkster
"How do people who aren't going for a bodybuilding physique" was your question, if your not bulking up, chances are your cutting up and trying to get shredded. by the sounds of your posts and questions, you've been researching this somewhat, which sounds like you are thinking of running a cycle... your in an AAS forum, where people here use compounds and cycles they are asking about.. so sorry I thought you were asking about a cycle for yourself...
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It was a general question because I have been reading about the use of AAS in non-bodybuilding related sports. Just curious to know how different drugs affect the body in different ways. I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was the "official stupid questions about cycles you're planning to run thread". In my eyes there's nothing wrong with wanting to learn about something from experience people, even if i'm not ready to use the advice for myself.
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09-22-2009, 07:24 AM
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hgh or primo
hey, ive reached a peak in my building, and wonder whats best for gaining some qualitymass, that doesnt go away after im done with the cycle.
i hear hgh is expensive, but you get quality gains wich you get to keep even after the cycle, and primo is supposedly good for this as well.
any recommendations ?
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09-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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If I take dbol which has an active life of 6-8 hours, does this mean I should work out 6-8 hours after taking it?
Is Arimidex good for PCT?
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09-22-2009, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by special_j
If I take dbol which has an active life of 6-8 hours, does this mean I should work out 6-8 hours after taking it?
Is Arimidex good for PCT?
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depends, you can take it spread out evenly during the days, or one dose preworkout. depends on how much your taking.
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09-22-2009, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allenkster
depends, you can take it spread out evenly during the days, or one dose preworkout. depends on how much your taking.
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What about when pinning dbol?
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09-23-2009, 12:47 AM
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If someone is prone to gyno what should they take while on cycle to prevent it rather then wait til it gets worse. I have 12 weeks worth of test E 250 and 100 tabs of anabol. i figured i would start low beings this is my first actual cycle. i have taken pro hormones wich i got a little gyno from. i was told to take proviron but that gets mixed reviews.
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09-23-2009, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hambo13
If someone is prone to gyno what should they take while on cycle to prevent it rather then wait til it gets worse. I have 12 weeks worth of test E 250 and 100 tabs of anabol. i figured i would start low beings this is my first actual cycle. i have taken pro hormones wich i got a little gyno from. i was told to take proviron but that gets mixed reviews.
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I have read about people running nolva during a cycle to help deal with gyno if it decides to rear its ugly head. Apparantly this will affect gains though as estrogen is an important hormone when it comes to building muscle.
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09-23-2009, 06:24 AM
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Stupid Question?
I got two, my dealer is planning on feeding his family for a whole year with what he wants to charge me for Clen!!! I looked into research chems for liquid but haven't made up my mind yet. Once you pay, your credit card, address information is there.
Research Chems-having all your information, is that safe?
Is there a way to avoid giving them all my information?
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09-23-2009, 09:04 AM
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im going on a test e and dbol cycle for 10weeks,4 weeks dbol. I was just thinking if i get gyno on the cycle i was planning to take 60mg of novladex on the day, and 20mg everyday rest of my cycle. what you think? for pct im going to stack clomid and novladex.
i cant get my hands on Aromasin
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09-23-2009, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deniall
I have read about people running nolva during a cycle to help deal with gyno if it decides to rear its ugly head. Apparantly this will affect gains though as estrogen is an important hormone when it comes to building muscle.
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Nolva will have zero influence on the level of estrogen in the body, it simply prevents binding to the receptor. What you should be looking at is an AI, to control the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. Yes estrogen is important, but you don't want it out of control, or too low either (which is a concern taking AI's)
Taking Nolva on cycle does work for people, to control the extent or growth of gyno, but I suggest using an AI instead of a SERM.
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Last edited by allenkster; 09-23-2009 at 09:11 PM.
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09-23-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by shockz21
im going on a test e and dbol cycle for 10weeks,4 weeks dbol. I was just thinking if i get gyno on the cycle i was planning to take 60mg of novladex on the day, and 20mg everyday rest of my cycle. what you think? for pct im going to stack clomid and novladex.
i cant get my hands on Aromasin
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Even adex would be a better option IMO.. just don't take it with Nolva.
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09-23-2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by allenkster
Nolva will have zero influence on the level of estrogen in the body, it simply prevents binding to the receptor. What you should be looking at is an AI, to control the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. Yes estrogen is important, but you don't want it out of control, or too low either (which is a concern taking AI's)
Taking Nolva on cycle does work for people, to control the extend or growth of gyno, but I suggest using an AI instead of a SERM.
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Thanks for the clarification. So letro on cycle would be a better option than nolva? What are the disadvantages of using letro? I know it's not my question but i'm interested nonetheless.
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09-23-2009, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deniall
Thanks for the clarification. So letro on cycle would be a better option than nolva? What are the disadvantages of using letro? I know it's not my question but i'm interested nonetheless.
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Use aromasin. No rebound, better on lipids and raises iGF compared to other AI's (Which lower IGF)
Letro is far too harsh for prevention use. It has a negative impact on lipids as well.
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09-23-2009, 04:29 PM
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I researched that having a blood work before and after a cycle is benefical. What does the blood work exactly tell me related to the jucie that im going to be taking.
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09-23-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shockz21
I researched that having a blood work before and after a cycle is benefical. What does the blood work exactly tell me related to the jucie that im going to be taking.
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it shows you what all your baselines are before you cycle, and if you should even consider a cycle.
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09-23-2009, 05:31 PM
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Im preparing for a 10 week cycle of Test-E solo. After the cycle when my natty test levels are suppressed, How bad will this effect libido?? How do you guys combat it? As I dont want my girl to know im juicing.
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09-23-2009, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nombie
Im preparing for a 10 week cycle of Test-E solo. After the cycle when my natty test levels are suppressed, How bad will this effect libido?? How do you guys combat it? As I dont want my girl to know im juicing.
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if you're serious about this girl, you better let her know, You'd be amazed at how accepting she'll be once you educate her properly.
If you're not serious, then hiding it is definitely a good idea.
Most poeple experience a drop in libido, but some don't.
Running a good pct is the best bet to bring back your libido. Some poeple like to run proviron during pct for this, but it's kinda contraversial.
There's always viagra/cialis.
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09-24-2009, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by javin86
if you're serious about this girl, you better let her know, You'd be amazed at how accepting she'll be once you educate her properly.
If you're not serious, then hiding it is definitely a good idea.
Most poeple experience a drop in libido, but some don't.
Running a good pct is the best bet to bring back your libido. Some poeple like to run proviron during pct for this, but it's kinda contraversial.
There's always viagra/cialis.
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1) Would the temp loss of lib happen say a few weeks after my last shot?
2) Is it short in duration like a couple of weeks?
3) Will using a test booster 2 weeks before my last shot help?
4) Are viagras safe to pop every night?
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09-24-2009, 08:52 AM
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Depends on the individual. Nobody can answer that. Usually it only lasts a couple weeks.
Usually starts a week into PCT.
Test booster wont help....that is what the serm is doing.
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09-24-2009, 09:27 AM
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I experience gyno during puberty i.e. sensitive nipples and lumps behind nipples. Does this make me prone to gyno on cycle of Test E only??
I dont have access to AI only nolva/clomid and proviron (dont know much about it). Is serm enough to combat gyno on cycle if it occurs, how would I use it to combat it? Can I use an over the counter AI product during my cycle to help if it occurs?
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