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Old 09-22-2009, 10:55 AM   #6541
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LOL Rick: lol well I'm kinda in 'dating' mode so hooking up isn't that appealing at the moment...but grindr is good for killing time lol
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:52 AM   #6542
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its great to see other gay men that have actual long term relationships.. you dont see that in the open anymore, and the ones that are, tend to be in an open relationship
I've been in LTR's basically since I was 22: 3 years, 8 years, and going on 6 years. Some folks are more monogomous. I actaully wanted to be single and slut around a bit, but I've been very lucky in love and can honestly say I've had relationships with three uber quality dudes. As a matter of fact, I'm still quite close with my former partners. I just think of it as if I'm on my third [and hopefully final] marriage.

I do, however, know lots and lots of guys who seemingly have sucessful open relationships. But it's not for me. Open relationships, in my humble opinion, devolve into roommate situations who stay together for real estate and financial convenience.

That being said, we very playful on the dancefloor and although we don't ever have sex or even kiss other dudes, we're not above copping a quick feel for entertainment. Circuit parties are so sexually charged that if this is forbidden, you really should just go home.
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It is precious time and you could very easily be right.
I would just hate to see a situation where years later you realized what a terrible choice you made and then resent your wife for it. The limbo you're in sounds damn miserable.

My choices were so clear. After I was born, I turned around and saw where I just came out of, and said "No M'am!"!
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I would just hate to see a situation where years later you realized what a terrible choice you made and then resent your wife for it. The limbo you're in sounds damn miserable.

My choices were so clear. After I was born, I turned around and saw where I just came out of, and said "No M'am!"!

I can see where he's coming from trvlr70 and it is hard to make that leap! Does he need to for his wife's well being?? Absolutely! It's a hard thing that HE is going to have to face eventually. When I was dealing with it the last thing I wanted to do was to hurt her or my two daughters. In the long run I realized I was hurting them anyway, because I was miserable. I decided I had to stop living to make everyone else happy and finally live for myself. It sounds selfish, but I am SOOOOOOO much happier. I've found that those that truly love you will stick by you no matter your sexuality. Hell my-ex wife still talks to me and has moved on and married a guy that can give her thing I WILL NEVER be able to provide. Im happy for her and we get along great now....We're not best friends or anything but we get along great for the girls sake. He'll figure it all out!
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I can see where he's coming from trvlr70 and it is hard to make that leap! Does he need to for his wife's well being?? Absolutely! It's a hard thing that HE is going to have to face eventually. When I was dealing with it the last thing I wanted to do was to hurt her or my two daughters. In the long run I realized I was hurting them anyway, because I was miserable. I decided I had to stop living to make everyone else happy and finally live for myself. It sounds selfish, but I am SOOOOOOO much happier. I've found that those that truly love you will stick by you no matter your sexuality. Hell my-ex wife still talks to me and has moved on and married a guy that can give her thing I WILL NEVER be able to provide. Im happy for her and we get along great now....We're not best friends or anything but we get along great for the girls sake. He'll figure it all out!
This is a classic case.

The most important element I see is that by leaving your wife, you actually set her free to. It must be so hard to be married to a "gay" guy. The whole time you're thinking you're the problem or you're undesirable. Now your ex-wife also gets a fresh start and a chance for real passion.

You made the right choice. And I bet you're a better father now that you're happy.
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This is a classic case.

The most important element I see is that by leaving your wife, you actually set her free to. It must be so hard to be married to a "gay" guy. The whole time you're thinking you're the problem or you're undesirable. Now your ex-wife also gets a fresh start and a chance for real passion.

You made the right choice. And I bet you're a better father now that you're happy.
I like to think so....My girls adore me!
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SWEET BUD... great job on your back.. yesterday i did legs... my quads are really starting to show.. i dont know if its cuz i'm either loseing weight or i' really toneing them up... all i know... i like it! LOL never been one to concentrate on my lower torso since i naturally have the big legs... and from what i've read and heard... apparently a lot of guys like that
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This is a classic case.

The most important element I see is that by leaving your wife, you actually set her free to. It must be so hard to be married to a "gay" guy. The whole time you're thinking you're the problem or you're undesirable. Now your ex-wife also gets a fresh start and a chance for real passion.

You made the right choice. And I bet you're a better father now that you're happy.
I agree with you, it's best to move forward to benefit both parties.
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Years after my ex-wife and I broke up and our son's became adults, I asked the boys what they thought of me as a parent (sort of a parental performance review) and they told me that while there had been some challenges along the way, they were better and stronger for it and wouldn't have wanted me to be anything but happy. And they always knew/know that mom and dad love them, no matter how life changed.

They've both grown up to be happy, healthy, successful men in their own right, and their mom and I are still very close friends. I couldn't ask for more.

Well, ok, maybe less fat and more muscle and younger..........................you get the point.

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I can see where he's coming from trvlr70 and it is hard to make that leap! Does he need to for his wife's well being?? Absolutely! It's a hard thing that HE is going to have to face eventually. When I was dealing with it the last thing I wanted to do was to hurt her or my two daughters. In the long run I realized I was hurting them anyway, because I was miserable. I decided I had to stop living to make everyone else happy and finally live for myself. It sounds selfish, but I am SOOOOOOO much happier. I've found that those that truly love you will stick by you no matter your sexuality. Hell my-ex wife still talks to me and has moved on and married a guy that can give her thing I WILL NEVER be able to provide. Im happy for her and we get along great now....We're not best friends or anything but we get along great for the girls sake. He'll figure it all out!
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Honey, that was Ecstacy I or II....they were all pink. I'm on model V at the moment. I think poor E-II committed suicide when she jumped [or was thrown] off a balcony into the crowd below at EuroPride in Madrid.
i thought she looked different. how's the leatherware for ecstacy working out for you?
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its great to see other gay men that have actual long term relationships.. you dont see that in the open anymore, and the ones that are, tend to be in an open relationship
I cant imagine NOT being in a long term relationship... There was one summer where I was trying to find the right guy, ended up seeing a new guy every 2 weeks or so... yea we'd fool around, but its nothing compared to being cuddled and "made love to" by someone you know loves you with all their heart.

I have much more sexual satisfaction with my BF than I would doing some random guy. The concept of an open relationship is mind boggling to me.
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Well I must say whatever you're doing for your back is working nicely!!
Thank you my friend, I still have a ways to go.

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No thank you my friend... (btw i guess i was so tired that i couldn't even spell).

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SWEET BUD... great job on your back.. yesterday i did legs... my quads are really starting to show.. i dont know if its cuz i'm either loseing weight or i' really toneing them up... all i know... i like it! LOL never been one to concentrate on my lower torso since i naturally have the big legs... and from what i've read and heard... apparently a lot of guys like that
Hey sorry to have to do this but I need to make a little correction. Torso is the area including your rib cage, throacic/lumbar/sacral spinal cord, and pelvis (using bones as a reference). I think you meant your lower limbs (including thigh and leg).

Anyway, yeah, I'm a leg guy. I can't resist big legs. :P
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Good Morning

Hey guys, noticed the thread was about to crash down to page 2 so I decided to bump us up

Anyway, time for my leg workout... humm this will hurt, especially considering that I job to the buss stop and walk to the university after getting to Toronto. No pain no gain (and since switching up my routine I do see the results)!

Since I forgot to last week, tomorrow and friday I will post my shoulder and arms workouts respectively for those who are interested (obviously not T since he finds me quite boring :P).

T once you replace EV we need a new AV from you. Please get a good looking pig this time... (*facepalm*)
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I'm currently sans a circuit pig. I may try to find one while were all up in San Francisco. It would be fun to petsit at the street fair on Sunday. Of course, if you find one in LA prior to this weekend, let me know. I prefer the pink variety. I could, however, bring Ecstacy's pet pig, Pinky.

I was thinking that between the two of us, we could actually draw with a black Sharpie a mask on her face or some other S&M accessories.

PS: I'm so excited to see you on Saturday.[LR3 and I are staying in the same hotel]
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I have much more sexual satisfaction with my BF than I would doing some random guy. The concept of an open relationship is mind boggling to me.
I hope you still feel the same way once you've been in a relationship for several years. It's not for me, but I can intellectually understand how it happens.

I have a very vivacious and flirty personality, but when it comes down to the real thing, I'm uber traditional. A certain group of friends used to call me Mena Suvari. She's the actress in "American Beauty" who appeared to be a total slut, but when she was about to have sex with Kevin Spacey, she confesses that she's actually a virgin.
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I hope you still feel the same way once you've been in a relationship for several years. It's not for me, but I can intellectually understand how it happens.

I have a very vivacious and flirty personality, but when it comes down to the real thing, I'm uber traditional. A certain group of friends used to call me Mena Suvari. She the actress in "American Beauty" who appeared to be a total slut, but when she was about to have sex with Kevin Spacey, she confesses that she's actually a virgin.


I'm against it too! I think that once you've gotten to that point to open it up you've really lost the true meaning of the relationship and you might as well be glorified roomates. Relationships ALL take work to keep them alive and I think that communication is the key to keeping it alive. I DON'T share my man with ANYONE! LOL
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I'm against it too! I think that once you've gotten to that point to open it up you've really lost the true meaning of the relationship and you might as well be glorified roomates. Relationships ALL take work to keep them alive and I think that communication is the key to keeping it alive. I DON'T share my man with ANYONE! LOL
I think it's important to keep the passion going. For some reason, my partner thinks that I'm perfect. Obviously, that's not true. But I do make attemps to keep our intimacy levels high. I also never do some things around him that could erode my hotness factor....even after 6 years. For example, he doesn't even know that I go "big potty". LOL He is also unaware of some of my beauty secrets.
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I think it's important to keep the passion going. For some reason, my partner thinks that I'm perfect. Obviously, that's not true. But I do make attemps to keep our intimacy levels high. I also never do some things around him that could erode my hotness factor....even after 6 years. For example, he doesn't even know that I go "big potty". LOL He is also unaware of some of my beauty secrets.
OMG....you're so weird! You're supposed to invite him to smell it when it's particularly rank. You're just a big 'ole girl aren't you?
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Yes! And who else could you show off a particularly large bowl-baby to? Sometimes you just need to share those moments!
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ROFL...or leave it for him to plunge.
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OMG....you're so weird! You're supposed to invite him to smell it when it's particularly rank. You're just a big 'ole girl aren't you?


LOL so true...you know you're comfertable with someone when you can fart or use the bathroom with them in the same room.. Now I can go number #1 while my BF is in the bathroom with me but don't think I could do the other one...
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OMG....you're so weird! You're supposed to invite him to smell it when it's particularly rank. You're just a big 'ole girl aren't you?
Not at all, Darryl!

It's a HUGE mistake in a relationship to, in a sense, get that "comfortable" with one another. The minute it happens, that's when the romance and passion start to wind down. Personally, I don't want to see my partner sitting on the toilet. That's not sexy to me. And once you go down that road, there's no turning back. I truly believe that that your sex life is a barometer for the health of a relationship. In comparison to what I hear from my friends in relationships out there, we have a very hot sexlife and I don't want to alter that. And if that I means I have to take a few tiny, considerate steps to shield my partner from banal things such as my toilet behavior, well, I have no problem with that.

Mark my words, young gays. Nobody wants to see their hot lover sitting on the toilet. EW!
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LOL so true...you know you're comfertable with someone when you can fart or use the bathroom with them in the same room.. Now I can go number #1 while my BF is in the bathroom with me but don't think I could do the other one...
Farting is funny! Taking a dump in front of your BF would be sexual suicide. I concur.
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Not at all, Darryl!

It's a HUGE mistake in a relationship to, in a sense, get that "comfortable" with one another. The minute it happens, that's when the romance and passion start to wind down. Personally, I don't want to see my partner sitting on the toilet. That's not sexy to me. And once you go down that road, there's no turning back. I truly believe that that your sex life is a barometer for the health of a relationship. In comparison to what I hear from my friends in relationships out there, we have a very hot sexlife and I don't want to alter that. And if that I means I have to take a few tiny, considerate steps to shield my partner from banal things such as my toilet behavior, well, I have no problem with that.

Mark my words, young gays. Nobody wants to see their hot lover sitting on the toilet. EW!

Well I've seen mine with his head in the toilet puking from drinking to much...I think I'd find it more sexy to see him sitting on it...LOL
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ROFL...or leave it for him to plunge.
You must not have sex, that is, with your boyfriend.
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Not at all, Darryl!

It's a HUGE mistake in a relationship to, in a sense, get that "comfortable" with one another. The minute it happens, that's when the romance and passion start to wind down. Personally, I don't want to see my partner sitting on the toilet. That's not sexy to me. And once you go down that road, there's no turning back. I truly believe that that your sex life is a barometer for the health of a relationship. In comparison to what I hear from my friends in relationships out there, we have a very hot sexlife and I don't want to alter that. And if that I means I have to take a few tiny, considerate steps to shield my partner from banal things such as my toilet behavior, well, I have no problem with that.

Mark my words, young gays. Nobody wants to see their hot lover sitting on the toilet. EW!
Oh lawd...let's face it...you're uptown, and I'm downtown.
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LOL...Gross!
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