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Old 09-21-2009, 03:31 PM   #6691
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I'm reasonably sure I just typed the word priapism for the first time ever.
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would find that famous rotten.com picture...but I just ate.
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Anyone else out there had to deal with lat mind/muscle connection problems? Back day used to be a breeze for me but ever since I dislocated my right & left shoulders back in 07 & 08, respectively, I have a hell of a time actually feeling my lats contract on any back exercise. All I can focus on is the shoulder joint and what my scapulae are doing. It's frustrating >=(
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wide & medium grip pull-downs (don't trust pull-ups anymore, lol), t-bars, bb rows, close-grip cable rows, etc.

Was thinking of trying 1-arm db rows but the full stretch makes me nervous - I don't even press out all the way on bench.
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One thing I've found that has helped me with my back moves, was to start the movement with my shoulder blades. On a pull up, squeeze my shoulder blades down and together (which puffs out my chest) and pull my chest to the bar, not my chin over the bar.

On bent over rows, I squeeze my shoulder blades back (again puffs out the chest) and then do the row. Making sure the first part of the move was only my shoulder blades, helped me target my back much more.

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Was thinking of trying 1-arm db rows but the full stretch makes me nervous - I don't even press out all the way on bench.
I was thinking of 1-arm db rows when I read your last post... I get a really good MMC on pulling those to the hip. Maybe just start light and work on stretching the full ROM?
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One thing I've found that has helped me with my back moves, was to start the movement with my shoulder blades. On a pull up, squeeze my shoulder blades down and together (which puffs out my chest) and pull my chest to the bar, not my chin over the bar.

On bent over rows, I squeeze my shoulder blades back (again puffs out the chest) and then do the row. Making sure the first part of the move was only my shoulder blades, helped me target my back much more.

Also, picture your hands merely as hooks, do not pull with them, pull with your elbow. If you have trouble with that, use lifting hooks/straps.





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Thanks, I use the "hooks" trick already, the shoulder blade thing may be tricky. It just never feels "right" when I pull. It doesn't hurt, and I'm able to move the weight, but for whatever reason it just doesn't feel like I'm activating my lats. I don't really feel it anywhere in particular, matter of fact. Weird.
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I was thinking of 1-arm db rows when I read your last post... I get a really good MMC on pulling those to the hip. Maybe just start light and work on stretching the full ROM?
Yeah, I may need to just go light on back day for a while. I have wide shoulders but my lats have really gone downhill since the dislocations and inevitable layoffs that followed. I have no training partner, but maybe I can convince that cute blonde girl at my gym to touch my lats on each rep till I get that connection back =P
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Thanks, I use the "hooks" trick already, the shoulder blade thing may be tricky. It just never feels "right" when I pull. It doesn't hurt, and I'm able to move the weight, but for whatever reason it just doesn't feel like I'm activating my lats. I don't really feel it anywhere in particular, matter of fact. Weird.
rows is harder to feel it for me. but pull ups, the chest ot bar, was the biggest factor for me.
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Anyone else out there had to deal with lat mind/muscle connection problems?
High reps and keeping my scapula depressed [opposite of a shrug] were money when my MMC sucked. Nowadays I can get my lats sore with 3x5 wide T-bar rows
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On bent over rows, I squeeze my shoulder blades back (again puffs out the chest) and then do the row. Making sure the first part of the move was only my shoulder blades, helped me target my back much more.
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The human body is highly intelligent and remarkably efficient. To protect itself from unwanted injury, the body will naturally sequence the recruitment of muscles to provide optimal load sharing across as many muscles and joints as possible. For example, when performing a bent-over row, the body will select the appropriate motor sequence to divide the load among all the pulling muscles.(1) This allows each working muscle to make its maximum contribution when most favorable with regard to optimal length/force and length/tension relationships.

An example of faulty load sharing can be witnessed in those individuals who have been taught to adduct their scapulae prior to initiating a pull with the lats and other muscles. This faulty motor sequence disrupts load sharing by first recruiting the scapular adductors ? shortening them beyond the range of their optimal length/force and length/tension relationships ? which then leaves the scapulohumeral musculature to perform the remainder of the work. This often leads to strain and trigger point development of the teres major, teres minor and infraspinatus muscles, or otherwise known as pattern overload.(1, 2)

The athlete who regularly performs pulling exercises in the manner described above will likely have a shortening of the scapulohumeral musculature which eventually leads to faulty scapulothoracic rhythm. The result is scapulae that rotate prematurely during all pulling or abduction movements. Over time, this results in stretch weakness of the middle and lower trapezius, and rhomboid musculature. Individuals with this type of dysfunction will present themselves clinically as experiencing pain between the shoulder blades and often demonstrate reduced range of motion in shoulder abduction, internal rotation, and shoulder flexion.

Through careful observation, you'll notice that athletes fitting the movement pattern described above chop their pulling movements into segments. The pull is usually initiated rapidly, favoring use of the now lengthened scapular adductor muscles. The pulling motion is terminated after 60-70% of the normal pulling range because the optimal working range of the short/strong scapulohumeral muscles and now lengthened scapular adductors has been reached; the scapular adductors are not weak, per say, they're just strong at the wrong time.

This pattern of overload, and many others can be seen during many exercises commonly performed in the gym. Although it may take a skilled therapist or corrective exercise specialist to identify many of them, it's safe to assume that your average gym rat or pocket calculator physical therapist with a wild new idea about how to perform an exercise isn't going to improve upon "Mother Nature." It's taken millions of years of natural development in the central nervous system (CNS) and peripheral nervous system to develop recruitment patterns that provide optimal load sharing. To test my theory, I consulted some of the oldest known experts on pulling, climbing and exercise (Figure 1). They told me, "if the body works, don't try to fix it!"
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rows is harder to feel it for me. but pull ups, the chest ot bar, was the biggest factor for me.
I'm the other way around -- I feel it more with rows than I do with pullups. On the flip side, if I do a few higher-rep sets of chinups, I'll feel it in my lats really good the next day.
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wide & medium grip pull-downs (don't trust pull-ups anymore, lol), t-bars, bb rows, close-grip cable rows, etc.

Was thinking of trying 1-arm db rows but the full stretch makes me nervous - I don't even press out all the way on bench.
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Thanks, I use the "hooks" trick already, the shoulder blade thing may be tricky. It just never feels "right" when I pull. It doesn't hurt, and I'm able to move the weight, but for whatever reason it just doesn't feel like I'm activating my lats. I don't really feel it anywhere in particular, matter of fact. Weird.
What about close grip pull-downs? I find good MMC on close grip pulldowns as well as seated cable rows.

Have you tried just hanging from a pullup bar with a thumbless grip? Then just trying to flex your lats like that? Turco does this iirc and I do it sometimes as well. I would suggest doing that some and then once you get the feel of your lats you could try to make that feeling everytime you do a different exercise.
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The vid had n00dz spliced in, Fight Club style.
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High reps and keeping my scapula depressed [opposite of a shrug] were money when my MMC sucked. Nowadays I can get my lats sore with 3x5 wide T-bar rows


Didn't I tell you to stop that? Or am I thinking about someone else? hmmm

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I thought it was telling me to stop leaving my shoulder blades contracted throughout. But yeah, I don't do it anymore.

Also, I just advise that to someone if they are having problems feeling it. It might be bad to do long term, but it can definitely help them out in the short term.
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The vid had n00dz spliced in, Fight Club style.
If your mind could break the hypnotic nature of the game in the background and the blank burger-chomping stare behind the glasses, you could see them pop up from time to time.
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