animalpak products? Which do you prefer

[binkman88]

ok, theres a few of these products that sounds good, which one would benefit a 21yr old, that doesnt want to take something that can show up in drug tests thats my biggest concern.

Im looking to gain mass and size. Which is the best to add this ?

most of them talk about anabolics and hormones, is this correct?

[BringnIt]

Originally Posted by binkman88

ok, theres a few of these products that sounds good, which one would benefit a 21yr old, that doesnt want to take something that can show up in drug tests thats my biggest concern.

Im looking to gain mass and size. Which is the best to add this ?

most of them talk about anabolics and hormones, is this correct?

If Animal is your preference, Animal Pump is the way to go.

[Todd_74]

alot of other better products but if your set on Universal I would go with

2 - cans of Animal Test
2 - cans of Animal Stak
Run it for 42 days then

1 Can of Animal M-stak
Run it for 21 days


Alongside your normal protein, multi ect

[binkman88]

is this stuff anabolic free, or whats the deal hormonal wise? I dont want something illegal

[Todd_74]

Originally Posted by binkman88

is this stuff anabolic free, or whats the deal hormonal wise? I dont want something illegal

lol. yes these are safe/legal and not prohormones. Stak is just a natural test booster and test is just an AA product.

[badinger7]

Originally Posted by Todd_74

lol. yes these are safe/legal and not prohormones. Stak is just a natural test booster and test is just an AA product.

I was under the impression that test was a prohormone or close to it. What is an AA product?

[Todd_74]

Originally Posted by badinger7

I was under the impression that test was a prohormone or close to it. What is an AA product?

nothing universal sales now is a prohormone. AA is arachidonic acid.

[binkman88]

I was under that impression too, well thanks for the 411 !

[206AK]

Pak=vitamin
Stak=natural test booster
Test=test booster with AA
Flex=joint support
Omega=Omega Oils
Nitro=EAA's
Animal Pump=NO+Creatine

[Anthony21]

Want size and strength with Universal Products?

Animal Pump or Shock Therapy/Intra-Aid/Torrent and you should be set.

[RonShipman]

Originally Posted by Anthony21

Want size and strength with Universal Products?

Animal Pump or Shock Therapy/Intra-Aid/Torrent and you should be set.

If you're looking for size and strength. Go with Shock Therapy pre workout, Storm Post workout and take Animal Pak. All you need Brah

[Glaive]

Originally Posted by badinger7

I was under the impression that test was a prohormone or close to it. What is an AA product?

Ok, don't take this the wrong way but the questions you're asking in this thread indicate that you have very little knowledge of nutrition and supplement science, or really even some of the basic biology associated with exercise.

I would suggest holding off on any supplement purchases and spending some time doing research and expanding your knowledge base.

Some things that you said which flagged my interest:

1) Do you actually know what the word "anabolic" means?

2) Do you understand what a hormone is and how many different ones there are with wildly different functions? Do you understand the distinction between a "prohormone" product and the general term "hormone"?

3) You know that "test" is just shorthand for testosterone, right? Do you understand what testosterone is, where it comes from, and what it does?

4) You basically asked "are Universal Nutrition's products illegal"? Think about that for a second. If you want some heroin do you go to illegaldrugsoutlet . com? There are most certainly illegal steroid products out there but you don't get them just by going to the website of a major fitness supplement company. If a product did have an ingredient it wasn't supposed to that fact wouldn't be broadcast all over the internet where we'd all know. If it had been the product would have already been pulled to avoid potential legal action.

Most of all, why are you so set on Universal's products? Since you don't seem to know a lot about the science involved with bodybuilding and bodybuilding supplementation, how exactly did you determine that there products are the way to go? I'm not slamming Universal at all, just questioning your line of reasoning.

If you're arbitrarily deciding to buy their stuff because your friend does or because you saw their ad in some magazine then you're getting way ahead of yourself. You need to have the basics down first, and by that I mean have a solid diet and training program that you are sticking to consistently. Only then will you have a reason to explore supplementation, and even then you want to start out things that support basic health and wellness: vitamins, minerals (these can be in the form of a multivitamin, opinions vary on what is best), and EFA's (essential fatty acids, generally fish oil).

Next would be your "basics" as far as bodybuilding supplements go, namely a good quality protein powder and creatine monohydrate.

If you're not getting results with just diet and training, especially at your age, you're doing something VERY WRONG. If you're not getting results with proper diet, training, and the supplements I just listed above, then you are most certainly doing something very, very wrong.

Don't waste your time and money on supplements before you have the basics down, and as a general rule if you can't explain the science behind something don't buy it.

[HeismanWatch]

Originally Posted by binkman88

is this stuff anabolic free, or whats the deal hormonal wise? I dont want something illegal

Nothing sold on BB.com is illegal! LOL!!!!

[Mr.Pooperton]

op you should probably focus on your nutrition and exercise routine while researching the products before you waste your money on supplements

[carinishead]

Take what Glaive said, read it twice, follow his advice, then come back and ask about supplements in a few months. Good luck

[naturalguy]

Originally Posted by Todd_74

nothing universal sales now is a prohormone.

Correct ^^^^^^

[badinger7]

Originally Posted by Glaive

Ok, don't take this the wrong way but the questions you're asking in this thread indicate that you have very little knowledge of nutrition and supplement science, or really even some of the basic biology associated with exercise.

I would suggest holding off on any supplement purchases and spending some time doing research and expanding your knowledge base.

Some things that you said which flagged my interest:

1) Do you actually know what the word "anabolic" means?

2) Do you understand what a hormone is and how many different ones there are with wildly different functions? Do you understand the distinction between a "prohormone" product and the general term "hormone"?

3) You know that "test" is just shorthand for testosterone, right? Do you understand what testosterone is, where it comes from, and what it does?

4) You basically asked "are Universal Nutrition's products illegal"? Think about that for a second. If you want some heroin do you go to illegaldrugsoutlet . com? There are most certainly illegal steroid products out there but you don't get them just by going to the website of a major fitness supplement company. If a product did have an ingredient it wasn't supposed to that fact wouldn't be broadcast all over the internet where we'd all know. If it had been the product would have already been pulled to avoid potential legal action.

Most of all, why are you so set on Universal's products? Since you don't seem to know a lot about the science involved with bodybuilding and bodybuilding supplementation, how exactly did you determine that there products are the way to go? I'm not slamming Universal at all, just questioning your line of reasoning.

If you're arbitrarily deciding to buy their stuff because your friend does or because you saw their ad in some magazine then you're getting way ahead of yourself. You need to have the basics down first, and by that I mean have a solid diet and training program that you are sticking to consistently. Only then will you have a reason to explore supplementation, and even then you want to start out things that support basic health and wellness: vitamins, minerals (these can be in the form of a multivitamin, opinions vary on what is best), and EFA's (essential fatty acids, generally fish oil).

Next would be your "basics" as far as bodybuilding supplements go, namely a good quality protein powder and creatine monohydrate.

If you're not getting results with just diet and training, especially at your age, you're doing something VERY WRONG. If you're not getting results with proper diet, training, and the supplements I just listed above, then you are most certainly doing something very, very wrong.

Don't waste your time and money on supplements before you have the basics down, and as a general rule if you can't explain the science behind something don't buy it.

Obviously if I am asking I do not know. As for all of the science behind products I do have a very general knowledge of how things work in the human body- I have researched very little about test and was only asking. Is that a crime? Who said I was stuck on Universal Products? Definitely not me. I only asked a question based on what I had heard around and a very general knowledge of the products sold by universal. You seemed to have been waiting to snap at someone and I guess I'm the victim of it. Why would you waste your time typing to tell me about things I haven't said and results I'm not getting?

[thebeast1]

Originally Posted by Glaive

Ok, don't take this the wrong way but the questions you're asking in this thread indicate that you have very little knowledge of nutrition and supplement science, or really even some of the basic biology associated with exercise.

I would suggest holding off on any supplement purchases and spending some time doing research and expanding your knowledge base.

Some things that you said which flagged my interest:

1) Do you actually know what the word "anabolic" means?

2) Do you understand what a hormone is and how many different ones there are with wildly different functions? Do you understand the distinction between a "prohormone" product and the general term "hormone"?

3) You know that "test" is just shorthand for testosterone, right? Do you understand what testosterone is, where it comes from, and what it does?

4) You basically asked "are Universal Nutrition's products illegal"? Think about that for a second. If you want some heroin do you go to illegaldrugsoutlet . com? There are most certainly illegal steroid products out there but you don't get them just by going to the website of a major fitness supplement company. If a product did have an ingredient it wasn't supposed to that fact wouldn't be broadcast all over the internet where we'd all know. If it had been the product would have already been pulled to avoid potential legal action.

Most of all, why are you so set on Universal's products? Since you don't seem to know a lot about the science involved with bodybuilding and bodybuilding supplementation, how exactly did you determine that there products are the way to go? I'm not slamming Universal at all, just questioning your line of reasoning.

If you're arbitrarily deciding to buy their stuff because your friend does or because you saw their ad in some magazine then you're getting way ahead of yourself. You need to have the basics down first, and by that I mean have a solid diet and training program that you are sticking to consistently. Only then will you have a reason to explore supplementation, and even then you want to start out things that support basic health and wellness: vitamins, minerals (these can be in the form of a multivitamin, opinions vary on what is best), and EFA's (essential fatty acids, generally fish oil).

Next would be your "basics" as far as bodybuilding supplements go, namely a good quality protein powder and creatine monohydrate.

If you're not getting results with just diet and training, especially at your age, you're doing something VERY WRONG. If you're not getting results with proper diet, training, and the supplements I just listed above, then you are most certainly doing something very, very wrong.

Don't waste your time and money on supplements before you have the basics down, and as a general rule if you can't explain the science behind something don't buy it.

You sir are retarded. A good informative post, but ****ing retarded. None of that was relevant to what he asked.

[carinishead]

Originally Posted by badinger7

Obviously if I am asking I do not know. As for all of the science behind products I do have a very general knowledge of how things work in the human body- I have researched very little about test and was only asking. Is that a crime? Who said I was stuck on Universal Products? Definitely not me. I only asked a question based on what I had heard around and a very general knowledge of the products sold by universal. You seemed to have been waiting to snap at someone and I guess I'm the victim of it. Why would you waste your time typing to tell me about things I haven't said and results I'm not getting?

The point he was trying to make is that your original post gave two impressions 1) you wanted Universal products 2) you didn't know anything about supplementation. The second point is really the problem area here. If you don't know anything about supplements and have to ask if a large popular company is selling illegal steroids online, there is a good chance you haven't done any research into either supplementation or nutrition. If you haven't, it's bad news. While it may seem to you like you're getting flamed, we're really looking out for your own good. The benefits of solid nutrition research, followed by basic supplement research will pay off exponentially for you, much more so than just buying some random supplements you don't know about. Take our advice because nutrition is the true building block--supplements can be used to maximize gains, but not if you're nutrition isn't solid first.

[206AK]

Originally Posted by thebeast1

You sir are retarded. A good informative post, but ****ing retarded. None of that was relevant to what he asked.

lol

[badinger7]

Originally Posted by carinishead

The point he was trying to make is that your original post gave two impressions 1) you wanted Universal products 2) you didn't know anything about supplementation. The second point is really the problem area here. If you don't know anything about supplements and have to ask if a large popular company is selling illegal steroids online, there is a good chance you haven't done any research into either supplementation or nutrition. If you haven't, it's bad news. While it may seem to you like you're getting flamed, we're really looking out for your own good. The benefits of solid nutrition research, followed by basic supplement research will pay off exponentially for you, much more so than just buying some random supplements you don't know about. Take our advice because nutrition is the true building block--supplements can be used to maximize gains, but not if you're nutrition isn't solid first.

Maybe you are not smart enough to read who started this thread. I obviously am not smart enough to make general statements concerning Animal Test WHEN I AM ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. You question what I do and don't know by me asking what does test do and what is AA- if he would have said test is a natural testosterone booster and aa stands for arachadonic acid I would have understood that and left it alone. I know the basics of supplementation, and I never once said that all I wanted were Universal Products. either. Before you guys feel the need to teach me please read what I wrote.

[Glaive]

Originally Posted by badinger7

Maybe you are not smart enough to read who started this thread. I obviously am not smart enough to make general statements concerning Animal Test WHEN I AM ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. You question what I do and don't know by me asking what does test do and what is AA- if he would have said test is a natural testosterone booster and aa stands for arachadonic acid I would have understood that and left it alone. I know the basics of supplementation, and I never once said that all I wanted were Universal Products. either. Before you guys feel the need to teach me please read what I wrote.

No one attacked you or "snapped" at you, and if your biggest problem is people trying to "teach you" then you're in pretty good shape.

What you need to remember is that you always say more than you think you do. You specifically asked about Universal products. You also made comments and asked questions that suggested you had a limited knowledge base. This automatically causes me to question how it is you became interested in Universal's products. The reaction would have been the same for any brand name.

You are correct that I responded to things you did not say, but that's because you implied them. If I were to ask you which protein powder is best for curing cancer, you could simply reply "neither" and it would be an accurate answer; however, it would not address the fact that I have an obvious misconception about protein and/or cancer that I would benefit from having addressed.

Does that make sense?

Keep in mind that you are not the first person to ever post asking questions. Take a look around and you'll see countless threads made every day, a great many of which are made by complete newbies and some by people who don't seem to be the shiniest dumbbell on the rack. It is common to get longer, more involved answers than you may initially be looking for because many posters are trying to help you avoid future issues or confusion as well as answer your immediate question(s).

Nothing I said was intended to be insulting. We were all beginners once and for every person on this board that knows less than me there's another that dwarfs my knowledge. I have learned a ton from this community and, like many others, make an effort to give back by helping those who are newer to the game.

Exercise physiology and nutritional science are not easy-to-understand fields for most people, particularly since the average person in the U.S. doesn't have the strongest scientific background to begin with. Add to that that the sheer amount of misinformation and "broscience" floating around the internet and it can be really hard for someone genuinely trying to understand how various supplements work to sort through everything.

My post was made not out of a desire to belittle you but out of concern. You gave me reason to think you were missing some of the basics so I took the liberty of verifying that you already had the important stuff down first (the fact that in your last post which I quoted you said that "test is a natural testosterone booster" seems to validate my concerns).

If I am completely wrong and you do indeed have solid understanding of chemistry and biology as it relates to lifting and supplementation then I apologize, but in that case you might consider the possibility that your communication skills are perhaps not as clear as you think they are.

Lastly, I'll simply add that I've found it's always a good idea not too jump to conclusions about the mindset of someone based solely on text. Tone is lost in things like message board posts and IM's, and it's all too easy to jump to the conclusion that someone is being a dick when their intentions were completely friendly.

[carinishead]

Originally Posted by badinger7

Maybe you are not smart enough to read who started this thread. I obviously am not smart enough to make general statements concerning Animal Test WHEN I AM ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. You question what I do and don't know by me asking what does test do and what is AA- if he would have said test is a natural testosterone booster and aa stands for arachadonic acid I would have understood that and left it alone. I know the basics of supplementation, and I never once said that all I wanted were Universal Products. either. Before you guys feel the need to teach me please read what I wrote.

Chill out man... Someone's a little on edge... I was on my way out the door and didn't realize you weren't the one who wrote it. From what was said, I just assumed it was you who started the thread, but honestly didn't even look at the name. If you want to know what test does, that's fine. Don't get all pissy because someone is offering advice.

[_Aggression_]

Originally Posted by binkman88

ok, theres a few of these products that sounds good, which one would benefit a 21yr old, that doesnt want to take something that can show up in drug tests thats my biggest concern.

Im looking to gain mass and size. Which is the best to add this ?

most of them talk about anabolics and hormones, is this correct?

Staple products that ANYONE (18+) can take for overall health:
Animal Pak
Animal Flex
Animal Omega

Products for someone under 21, looking for mass/size:
Animal M-stak
Animal Pump
Animal Nitro

Originally Posted by Todd_74

alot of other better products but if your set on Universal I would go with

2 - cans of Animal Test
2 - cans of Animal Stak
Run it for 42 days then

1 Can of Animal M-stak
Run it for 21 days


Alongside your normal protein, multi ect

Stay away from Stak/Test right now. You may get some benefits from them, but its recommended to wait a few more years for your hormones to naturally start declining. For now, rely on non-hormonal products and a ton of food.

Also, give some good research on all the options you have bro. There are a ton of supplements out there, but they're only intended to 'supplement' a sound training program/diet. Without the latter two in order, the supplements will be of no benefit. We're all on here to learn. No products under Universal Nutrition are illegal.

[Country Mike]

Animal Omega FTW!!!!!!!