Does prime work??? The final word.

[michael3435]

Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

Push/Pull/Legs Off Push/Pull/Legs Off (Repeat)

Layne Power/Hyper Split... Upper/Lower Power Off Chest/Back,Shoulders/Arms, Lower Hyper

Two programs to consider.

the first one you listed is pretty much what i already do.

the others look good. i was thinking about having power/hyper days

[WIULifter]

Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

Push/Pull/Legs Off Push/Pull/Legs Off (Repeat)

Layne Power/Hyper Split... Upper/Lower Power Off Chest/Back,Shoulders/Arms, Lower Hyper

Two programs to consider.

im doing the phat split right now.......intense

[TNote]

5/3/1

I plan on starting it up pretty soon.

[michael3435]

i got lots of research to do

[leonidas300]

Good log and sorry this product did not work for you. The marketing behind Prime should be included in every marketing class in the country. To be able to sell a product that you can not explain how you chose the ingredients, you don't know how it is supposed to work, and you have zero credible data that the product actually does work at all, and still achieve the sales levels that USP has with this product is a testament to the gullibility of the average consumer and what can be done through creative advertising. Jacob should be awarded an honorary PHD in marketing, the guy is brilliant. I will not take that away from him, he can market a product better than anyone else. If I was ever to release a product I would pay Jacob to do the advertisements. I may go to hell, but I will be rich in the meantime.

Thanks for logging the product. Also though, regardless of Primes efficacy, you should have acheived better results through training and diet. I agree that maybe you need to look into full body training and increasing the frequency you are hitting bodyparts.

[michael3435]

Originally Posted by leonidas300

Good log and sorry this product did not work for you. The marketing behind Prime should be included in every marketing class in the country. To be able to sell a product that you can not explain how you chose the ingredients, you don't know how it is supposed to work, and you have zero credible data that the product actually does work at all, and still achieve the sales levels that USP has with this product is a testament to the gullibility of the average consumer and what can be done through creative advertising. Jacob should be awarded an honorary PHD in marketing, the guy is brilliant. I will not take that away from him, he can market a product better than anyone else. If I was ever to release a product I would pay Jacob to do the advertisements. I may go to hell, but I will be rich in the meantime.

Thanks for logging the product. Also though, regardless of Primes efficacy, you should have acheived better results through training and diet. I agree that maybe you need to look into full body training and increasing the frequency you are hitting bodyparts.

agreed on all accounts!

if anything, jacob should be praised...you're right. i know for a fact i couldnt have done it.

now if only i can choose one of these routines. lol

[TheUnderdog]

LB's suggestions are good...he told me to try triphase and I liked it....you could do Layne's program and include an FST7 set for each BG....

good log...i believe this was an honest log and furthers the confusion on the product...Yourname is seeing positive results and I know he is pretty honest with his logs....this is a 50/50 product in my estimation...to those who respond and those who don't. Keep training hard.

[michael3435]

Originally Posted by TheUnderdog

LB's suggestions are good...he told me to try triphase and I liked it....you could do Layne's program and include an FST7 set for each BG....

good log...i believe this was an honest log and furthers the confusion on the product...Yourname is seeing positive results and I know he is pretty honest with his logs....this is a 50/50 product in my estimation...to those who respond and those who don't. Keep training hard.

yeah, unfortunately, a supp thats 50/50 shouldnt be the first thing to try on anyone's list...especially at the price IMO.

im looking into dc training right now.

then im gonna look into mentzer

then triphase

then fst-7

got a long night lol

[longhorns_p]

GJ on the final review man, you might be right on the 50/50 thing...I'd rather save my money for stuff I know works. GL with finding the right split

[michael3435]

thanks man

reps to everyone who contributed positively to this thread (positive even through criticism) btw.

[dilbert]

Wanted to say good job on the log. It may not have been the most thorough for some of the meats out there, but it was enough for the "average Joe" to make a good enough assessment on the product.

I know I said I would have added my two cents here and there, but I dropped off the Prime band wagon not too long after I got on.

It was ripping my stomach to shreds by dinner time just about every monday *the weekends I skipped pre-workout Prime dosing* so I figured it was time to move on.

I will continue to love AP, Powerfull, RC and Jacked. I'll just have to give Prime a flier.

I still have two co-workers running it now, so I'll let you know if any drastic results occur. But none on this end..

Take care.

[GeneGnomeX]

Originally Posted by leonidas300

Good log and sorry this product did not work for you. The marketing behind Prime should be included in every marketing class in the country. To be able to sell a product that you can not explain how you chose the ingredients, you don't know how it is supposed to work, and you have zero credible data that the product actually does work at all, and still achieve the sales levels that USP has with this product is a testament to the gullibility of the average consumer and what can be done through creative advertising. Jacob should be awarded an honorary PHD in marketing, the guy is brilliant. I will not take that away from him, he can market a product better than anyone else. If I was ever to release a product I would pay Jacob to do the advertisements. I may go to hell, but I will be rich in the meantime.

There is a thin line between good marketing and lying, and he is far over that line. Their website has all the signs of classic scam techniques. No credible association would ever give him an honorary PhD nor should he be praised for marketing ability, in a regulated industry he would be done before he started.

[FranktheTank37]

If you feel like you need to hit each body part more often, then Prime may be working after all. For me, Prime drastically increased my recovery time and I felt like I didn't need to rest more than a day for any body part. Maybe you could provide us with some post cycle analysis? I know prime was working well for me at least, and it shouldn't be written off as just a bunch of hype so quickly.

[bloodsimple1234]

just talked to someone at a vitamin shoppe over weekend and said prime did not work for them either.Guess everyone is diff,bottom line is this log was 100% honest and non biased.


with that being said I have always had an eye on POWERfull.

[michael3435]

Originally Posted by bloodsimple1234

just talked to someone at a vitamin shoppe over weekend and said prime did not work for them either.Guess everyone is diff,bottom line is this log was 100% honest and non biased.


with that being said I have always had an eye on POWERfull.

crapshoot...i wish we knew how it worked (if its not placebo)

[shckr]

Originally Posted by michael3435

crapshoot...i wish we knew how it worked (if its not placebo)

Good log, man. I think you may have saved me some money. I have been researching the Asteroid Stack for the past couple of weeks, and I was very close to buying it tonight - when I came across your log. I read thru the full 10 pages and here were my notes. Some of these have already been made by other posters. I included them for completeness, but my intention is not to "pile on."

1. I 100% agree with you regarding MOA for Prime. This is one of the main reasons that I have not bought the product. I am hesitant to take something that is not understood - or at least claims to be understood......

2. If Prime was noted to be a test increaser, then I could see where you might not be the best subject since you are young and not going thru the phase of your life yet where you test starts to degrade significantly......I on the other hand am in my early 30's and according to studies, I am supposedly on my way to becoming a woman...... However, I have not seen in any marketing that Prime is not really useful for younger athletes, so I am not sure that this provides any good reason for why it didn't work for you. I would have expected the reps or the marketing to state that this is not a supplement if you are in your early 20's if it is just a test increaser. If it is just a test increaser, it doesn't seem like Prime would be a good choice for you, but might not be bad for me or other that are starting to see their test drop with age. (this point is complete conjecture and really just a rambling of thoughts and frustrations with the lack of an MOA.....see point 1.)

3. I was surprised that you didn't see much increase in your bench over the past month. At the beginning of your cycle, you had mentioned that you had not worked your chest for some time and that you were going to restart for this log. I have not lifted near as long as you, so I really can not say what I would expect after I had as long a track record as you, so take this comment for what it is worth (ie. almost nothing....)

4. Lastly, this log is great and I was happy to see the number of posts from your supporters. I am interested in reading any other logs that people can post for me highlighting good and honest reviews. I really just take Protein, Creatine, and a Multi, but if I saw some really good, intelligent feedback on a supp that worked, I could be coaxed into trying some other things.

Great job, Mike and thank you for your honesty. I wish it would have worked for you.

Shckr

[justdoit08]

Originally Posted by michael3435

did legs today. my back was bugging me a little bit when i woke up and is a little tense right now. im gonna step up my ice and heat game...pump wasnt great today, mood was ooook. nothing special, here are the lifts:

reverse hack squats: 100x10, 180x10, 200x10, 220x12, 180x15
leg press: 500x10, 500x10, 500x12
calve raises

i was going to do tris but i wasnt really into it today. dunno why...

i injured my back in may, done legs on sunday, back on tuesday and while doing shrugs on wednesday my back clicked and had to take off atleast amonth , while i was on PRIME....

[ptc22030]

Just wanted to add my two cents here. I've been impressed with USPLabs' ReCreate, and have given PRIME a try; working on my third bottle now. I can't claim any reaction to it, positive or negative. In fact, I stumbled onto this forum thread hoping to get some credibility for it. AFter reading through however, I'd have to say I'm going to stop it. Again, no negative reactions, but nothing I can trace to it either.

[UWBodybuilding]

Didn't change any lifts or weight in a month? lol, it's not the supplements fault, brah.