New Gay Thread (Part 3)

[blind2limits]

Hey... if I ran a beginning training log... would you guys follow it? You know - support the gays and such. (lol)

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by Trempid

I guess that proves it eh?!

What's even worse... I read the story, watched the video, but then I went to the comments broad. A minimum of 0% of the posters, maybe more, generally felt that the sociopath who attached the little girl was "wrong," but resent the hell out of the laws passed by "those liberals" preventing them from slapping around their own kids as they wish. MOST of the parents write that beating the crap outa their kids will "put them in their place."

Does anyone wonder why the United States has not only the highest prison population EVER, but far more than any other country in the world?

And they say gays makes "unfit" parents....

[MiamiSpartan]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

What's even worse... I read the story, watched the video, but then I went to the comments broad. A minimum of 0% of the posters, maybe more, generally felt that the sociopath who attached the little girl was "wrong," but resent the hell out of the laws passed by "those liberals" preventing them from slapping around their own kids as they wish. MOST of the parents write that beating the crap outa their kids will "put them in their place."

Does anyone wonder why the United States has not only the highest prison population EVER, but far more than any other country in the world?

And they say gays makes "unfit" parents....

Same ones that elected W twice....(sort of...)

[rnye]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

What's even worse... I read the story, watched the video, but then I went to the comments broad. A minimum of 0% of the posters, maybe more, generally felt that the sociopath who attached the little girl was "wrong," but resent the hell out of the laws passed by "those liberals" preventing them from slapping around their own kids as they wish. MOST of the parents write that beating the crap outa their kids will "put them in their place."

Does anyone wonder why the United States has not only the highest prison population EVER, but far more than any other country in the world?

And they say gays makes "unfit" parents....

...Ever seen children get disciplined in other countries? LOL... yea...

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by Trempid

Most of the time I'm the one pushing the fitness talk and then everyone else tells me I'm boring :P

Well, I don't think you're boring, and I'd like us gay men to talk more about fitness, lifting, routines...the whole bit, in addition to everything else. Just my opinion.

I'm not getting any younger, but I plan to compete on a stage in an NPC competition, just once...for the experience, and win my class, not just do it. And I gotta do it before I'm 90 <g>. LONG journey ahead of me.... hope I'm not the only one with interests like these on the forum (?)

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by wouldlikemuscle

That sounds like a convo for Recon!

There are a lot of flavors out there, you know .... wouldn't it be boring if we only had vanilla? Recon can be, uh, fun......

(Really)

[darryl27]

Originally Posted by atticus_a

I used to be obsessed with this topic actually. I had a boss that basically only slept with 'straight' men. It was extremely interesting to me that these people didn't modify their sexual orientations despite sexual behavior that wasn't necessarily congruent with their sexual identification.

Here a little bit on it. I am less comfortable with the straightguise website because I get the overwhelming sense they are project trauma or abuse as a pillar of the etiology of this group of behaviors.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...-sex-other-men

Interesting article. It reminds me of a saying I heard somewhere..."women need a reason to have sex, men only need a place to have sex."

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

What's even worse... I read the story, watched the video, but then I went to the comments broad. A minimum of 0% of the posters, maybe more, generally felt that the sociopath who attached the little girl was "wrong," but resent the hell out of the laws passed by "those liberals" preventing them from slapping around their own kids as they wish. MOST of the parents write that beating the crap outa their kids will "put them in their place."

Does anyone wonder why the United States has not only the highest prison population EVER, but far more than any other country in the world?

And they say gays makes "unfit" parents....

This is definitely an issue of class and education, IMHO. Most of us realize that reasoning with a child gets much better results than physical discipline. Most people who've read my posts know that I'm from a working class background. I had plenty of spankings in my youth, but I can honestly say that I never remember getting one over screaming in a department store. I had to do something extreme. I grew up (during my spanking days, lol) on a suburban street where every ranch was the same, 1/4 acre lots, everybody knew each other. The absolute worst part of getting spanked was that my mom always made me go to the back yard to pick my on switch (hickory, they were called). If you were unfortunate enough to be seen by the other kids in the neighborhood they would all gather around the window and listen. The ragging you'd receive from them was exponentially worse than any spanking could be.

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Well, I don't think you're boring, and I'd like us gay men to talk more about fitness, lifting, routines...the whole bit, in addition to everything else. Just my opinion.

I'm not getting any younger, but I plan to compete on a stage in an NPC competition, just once...for the experience, and win my class, not just do it. And I gotta do it before I'm 90 <g>. LONG journey ahead of me.... hope I'm not the only one with interests like these on the forum (?)

Bhujerban is currently training for his first show.

[darryl27]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

There are a lot of flavors out there, you know .... wouldn't it be boring if we only had vanilla? Recon can be, uh, fun......

(Really)

Oh, WLM knows how fun Recon can be.

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by Trempid

No, I agree as well. I think they need what they were missing in their homes, love, and not violence. The problem is, how do you do this, how do you get through to them.

Go go Mr. A., work hard so you can get everything done as soon as possible and then relax a bit.

I agree with both of you. Kids who comes from dysfunctional homes, or worse, need UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE, STABILITY, NURTURING, DISCIPLINE (non-violent type), STRUCTURE, GOAL-SETTING, and enduring PATIENCE when the invariably test, and test again.

By locking them away, or throwing them in the "system," we're certain to breed a new generation of criminals and emotionally stable, damaged human beings that will be unable to contribute to society... or enjoy it.

The Supreme Court in the State of Arkansas recently ruled that gays, single or coupled, were "not fit" to be foster parents. That state has an enormous "inventory" of kids in institutions, because they're aren't enough "suitable" foster families to take them in.

What a wonderful country we live in.

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by darryl27

Oh, WLM knows how fun Recon can be.

Really? I kinda wondered how & why he knew what it was LOL. He and I have to explore that further (are you reading this, WLM???). And you shouldn't be embarrassed by anything you're into. I definitely have my, uh interests.... they're just different --with a common thread

[Muscle Bear]

Originally Posted by blind2limits

Hey... if I ran a beginning training log... would you guys follow it? You know - support the gays and such. (lol)

Absolutely.... I would!

[MiamiSpartan]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Well, I don't think you're boring, and I'd like us gay men to talk more about fitness, lifting, routines...the whole bit, in addition to everything else. Just my opinion.

I'm not getting any younger, but I plan to compete on a stage in an NPC competition, just once...for the experience, and win my class, not just do it. And I gotta do it before I'm 90 <g>. LONG journey ahead of me.... hope I'm not the only one with interests like these on the forum (?)

Don't forget to post pics!

[boon9484]

Originally Posted by rnye

Bartenders are RARELY hired on "ability" or track record - its all how you come off when you talk to the owner/manager/etc, which is why, if theres somewhere you're genuinely interested in working, get to know the staff and let them get to know you.

I'd like to take a moment to thank EVERYONE who has offered advice... One of my gay friends (who is like 35 and is also my hair guy) says he might be able to hook me up with a low level job somewhere, like barback or something. (seems like you this industry really is only enter able by connection!).. I'm up to 12 applications.
I've started using craigslist, who knew so many businesses posted jobs on there.

And ryne, thats a really useful tip too, I always appear very confident to the manager, but i guess i should be more talkative to the host, or anyone else I see that is working there as well... Well actually I was really talkative to this girl who was working at one place, she was totally flirting with me and made it REALLY easy to be confident and outgoing during that interview.

BTW ryne, you are really hot

[MiamiSpartan]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Really? I kinda wondered how & why he knew what it was LOL. He and I have to explore that further (are you reading this, WLM???). And you shouldn't be embarrassed by anything you're into. I definitely have my, uh interests.... they're just different --with a common thread

ok...i'm pretty sheltered...someone tell me what recon is....
sorry...

[Trempid]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

And they say gays makes "unfit" parents....

I know I want to be a parent one day, regardless of my partner's gender. I want a full family even if not in the stereotypical kind of way (yeah, you know it, I hate stereotypes... maybe that's why I'm here in the first place :P)

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Well, I don't think you're boring, and I'd like us gay men to talk more about fitness, lifting, routines...the whole bit, in addition to everything else. Just my opinion.

Thank you lol, not everyone agrees with you though, especially the big boss, yes your royal highness, the one and only, princess Travlr :P (Wow I love that intro, I should use it for him more often... I hope he reads it, it really does him justice).

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Really? I kinda wondered how & why he knew what it was LOL. He and I have to explore that further (are you reading this, WLM???). And you shouldn't be embarrassed by anything you're into. I definitely have my, uh interests.... they're just different --with a common thread

Oh God, I thought it was another member's screen name... so what is it then... wait, do I even want to know. Kink is good but not when it turns into pain and torture
(oh god... I hear the sighs of boredom coming my way already)

[Trempid]

Ok, good night everyone! I'll see you all tomorrow!

[Mr. Nitro]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nitro

So theres this personal trainer at my gym. he has dark hair. dark brown eyes. wavyish hair. has a scruff going on. has a few tattoos. fit body obviously. anyway, ive been crushing on him for months. i know he knows im attracted to him. i cant help but glance at him any chance i have (i really try not to :/ ). and he likes to stare too. idk if its because he notices i look or if its something else. but we always look at each other. and he sometimes searches for me (like he'll look up upstairs to see when i pass by jogging). anyway, yesterday he was talking to some guy i was helping work out. he was just chillin with us for about half an hour. my legs were shaking!! i felt like i was in high school all over again. throught the whole time he never said wassup or didnt try to talk to me. but why? aren't guys comfortable talking to other guys when theyre 2ft away. did he want me to initiate conversation? idk but if he did try to talk to me id probably stumble my words hahaha. i feel like such a dork!

remember i told you about that personal trainer ive been crushing on?^^

well today my gym buddy just broke me the news that the PT is GAY or bi. gym bud knew for a while but he didnt want to tell me because he knew i like the PT and my gym buddy is crushing on me. So the PT is dating a guy that works out at that gym. ive never seen him before. anyway supposedly the PT is on the down low. i still cant believe it. i am in shock. he has a lil 3yr old boy so i lost hope he was anything gay.

i am crushed. i felt a knot in my throat and nervous tension in my heart. ouch. im very sad you guys

i dont feel like going to that gym anymore :/

[wouldlikemuscle]

Originally Posted by Muscle Bear

Really? I kinda wondered how & why he knew what it was LOL. He and I have to explore that further (are you reading this, WLM???). And you shouldn't be embarrassed by anything you're into. I definitely have my, uh interests.... they're just different --with a common thread

I signed up for the muscle section.. naturally Some very interesting profiles on there tho!!

[atticus_a]

Originally Posted by darryl27

This is definitely an issue of class and education, IMHO. Most of us realize that reasoning with a child gets much better results than physical discipline. Most people who've read my posts know that I'm from a working class background. I had plenty of spankings in my youth, but I can honestly say that I never remember getting one over screaming in a department store. I had to do something extreme. I grew up (during my spanking days, lol) on a suburban street where every ranch was the same, 1/4 acre lots, everybody knew each other. The absolute worst part of getting spanked was that my mom always made me go to the back yard to pick my on switch (hickory, they were called). If you were unfortunate enough to be seen by the other kids in the neighborhood they would all gather around the window and listen. The ragging you'd receive from them was exponentially worse than any spanking could be.

I debate myself with physical punishment a lot. I think that it could be used effectively in child rearing as long as it is used appropriately and never excessively. Would I be comfortable using it, probably not. But it is something that I wonder a lot about. Like the conditions when it is appropriate and when it is not.

Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan

ok...i'm pretty sheltered...someone tell me what recon is....
sorry...

My understanding is it fetish website....But others may know more.

Originally Posted by Trempid

I know I want to be a parent one day, regardless of my partner's gender. I want a full family even if not in the stereotypical kind of way (yeah, you know it, I hate stereotypes... maybe that's why I'm here in the first place :P) .

I have no desire for children. I hope to never have to make good on being the god parent that I am to two people's children.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nitro

remember i told you about that personal trainer ive been crushing on?^^

well today my gym buddy just broke me the news that the PT is GAY or bi. gym bud knew for a while but he didnt want to tell me because he knew i like the PT and my gym buddy is crushing on me. So the PT is dating a guy that works out at that gym. ive never seen him before. anyway supposedly the PT is on the down low. i still cant believe it. i am in shock. he has a lil 3yr old boy so i lost hope he was anything gay.

i am crushed. i felt a knot in my throat and nervous tension in my heart. ouch. im very sad you guys

i dont feel like going to that gym anymore :/

I don't understand. I got your friend being that way. I understand. Immature but I understand.

I don't understand why you are crushed. Is it because you liked him and he is with someone else?

One of my best friends has a kid and he is gay. It happens.

[Trempid]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nitro

remember i told you about that personal trainer ive been crushing on?^^

well today my gym buddy just broke me the news that the PT is GAY or bi. gym bud knew for a while but he didnt want to tell me because he knew i like the PT and my gym buddy is crushing on me. So the PT is dating a guy that works out at that gym. ive never seen him before. anyway supposedly the PT is on the down low. i still cant believe it. i am in shock. he has a lil 3yr old boy so i lost hope he was anything gay.

i am crushed. i felt a knot in my throat and nervous tension in my heart. ouch. im very sad you guys

i dont feel like going to that gym anymore :/

...
It's not over yet! (emailed you)

[boon9484]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nitro

i am crushed. i felt a knot in my throat and nervous tension in my heart. ouch. im very sad you guys

i dont feel like going to that gym anymore :/

I know exactly how you feel... I had a huge crush on this guy. It was love at first sight. I loved the way he looked, his personality, the stuff he was into... He was like the perfect guy. When i found out he had a BF I was crushed and lost hope. My stomach knotted up, i was depressed for days, and never ended up engaging him.
6 months later he started talking to me out of the blue (we had mutual friends). He was telling me his relationship was at an end point and we became friends... Eventually after just talking for a few weeks we had our first date.

On september 21st of this year we will celebrate our 2 year anniversary

(and yes things are going much better than they were. It seems like we were literally suffocating the relationship by being together, literally almost 24/7. We've been spending a lot more time apart and it has really helped give more life to our relationship... I've also completely changed the way I approach things, and in general I no longer "put up" with stuff.. just in general a lot has been matured and things are going good)

[LoL Rick]

Originally Posted by darryl27

Corrections officer...one of my biggest fantasies!

ARREST ME OFFICER!

You know that's what pseudohero does as well.

Originally Posted by darryl27

*embarrassed*

Wow, that's a first. I'm marking my calendar.

Originally Posted by WTSS

Yeah I know... Um I went to a gay bar and that was enough exploring for me... it kinda scared me when a big black guy came rubbed my crotch and said I bet you have a big coc... I just said sorry dude I am straight and my coc is for me and the ladies

Originally Posted by darryl27

ROFL. If you're in a gay bar then you shouldn't be surprised that someone comes up and flirts with you.

Oh, come on. That's waaay over the top even for a gay bar and certainly doesn't fall under the category of "flirting." If somebody came up and just started rubbing your crotch it would scare almost anyone off. Well, except you and me of couse.

Originally Posted by atticus_a

...Just respect his privacy as Darrly suggested.

ROFLMAO!!! Is that a Freudian slip? I think Darrly might have to be his new nickname.

Originally Posted by darryl27

Most people who've read my posts know that I'm from a working class background. I had plenty of spankings in my youth, but I can honestly say that I never remember getting one over screaming in a department store. I had to do something extreme.

So what do you have to do to get a spanking now?

Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan

ok...i'm pretty sheltered...someone tell me what recon is....
sorry...

Fetish website. recon dot com

It's where you go to get a spanking.

[boon9484]

[LoL Rick]

Originally Posted by boon9484

(and yes things are going much better than they were. It seems like we were literally suffocating the relationship by being together, literally almost 24/7.

Yay boon! That's great to hear.

Chin up, Nitro. Like Trempid said - it ain't over yet.

[boon9484]

on the topic of parents who spank / hit their kids... My father used to hit or kick whenever i did something, that to him, was unacceptable, and i didn't stop hating him for it for years and years (i'd literally think about how great it would be if he died and it was just my mom and the family)... At this point hes a completely different person than he was back then so we've gotten a little bit closer, but i always have this deep down contempt for him and the way he treated me. Today his opinion of anything or insight is of little value to me, and i take most of what he has to say with a grain of salt. Its too bad because if not for those events, i know we would probably be much closer... But it was scarring, it effected me in a huge way, and its not something i can really get over.

[Trempid]

Originally Posted by boon9484

(and yes things are going much better than they were. It seems like we were literally suffocating the relationship by being together, literally almost 24/7. We've been spending a lot more time apart and it has really helped give more life to our relationship... I've also completely changed the way I approach things, and in general I no longer "put up" with stuff.. just in general a lot has been matured and things are going good)

Yay finally some news that I was dying to hear! Good, I'm so happy for you and your bf boon!

See Shaki, as I said, it's not over yet (boon you give me hope too!)

Originally Posted by boon9484

on the topic of parents who spank / hit their kids... My father used to hit or kick whenever i did something, that to him, was unacceptable, and i didn't stop hating him for it for years and years (i'd literally think about how great it would be if he died and it was just my mom and the family)... At this point hes a completely different person than he was back then so we've gotten a little bit closer, but i always have this deep down contempt for him and the way he treated me. Today his opinion of anything or insight is of little value to me, and i take most of what he has to say with a grain of salt. Its too bad because if not for those events, i know we would probably be much closer... But it was scarring, it effected me in a huge way, and its not something i can really get over.

Interesting. For me it's the opposite. My mother used to hit me when I didn't behave (never in public btw), but to be honest that doesn't bother me as much as the emotional abuse I suffered from her. While she still is my mother, I don't like her and I try to keep my distances from her. My dad was always so busy while I was growing up so we didn't really have a strong relationship. However, as the years go by, our relationship is strengthening.

[darryl27]

[QUOTE=atticus_a;381684011]I debate myself with physical punishment a lot. I think that it could be used effectively in child rearing as long as it is used appropriately and never excessively. Would I be comfortable using it, probably not. But it is something that I wonder a lot about. Like the conditions when it is appropriate and when it is not.

Even though I was hit/spanked as a child and don't think I'm any worse off for it, I still don't believe it's an effective way to discipline children. The same neighborhood kids that would witness my spankings and I would conspire about doing things that we knew would get us spanked. We'd rationalize it...spankings only lasted a couple of minutes and weren't that bad...what the hell let's do it!! The point is that it isn't effective.

Originally Posted by LoL Rick

You know that's what pseudohero does as well.

Wow, that's a first. I'm marking my calendar.


Oh, come on. That's waaay over the top even for a gay bar and certainly doesn't fall under the category of "flirting." If somebody came up and just started rubbing your crotch it would scare almost anyone off. Well, except you and me of couse.

ROFLMAO!!! Is that a Freudian slip? I think Darrly might have to be his new nickname.


So what do you have to do to get a spanking now?


Fetish website. recon dot com

It's where you go to get a spanking.

WTF Bitch!!! Don't make me come down there.

Gotta run guys...meeting the lesbians!

[Trempid]

Originally Posted by darryl27

Gotta run guys...meeting the lesbians!

Have fun D, talk to you when you get back!

[darryl27]

Originally Posted by Trempid

Have fun D, talk to you when you get back!

Glad to see SOMEBODY'S being nice to me today!

[LoL Rick]

Originally Posted by darryl27

WTF Bitch!!! Don't make me come down there.

I dare ya.

There's a Walmart down the street - maybe we could go slap some kids around.