The EC stack - Does it live up to the hype?

[GrimDisgorgance]

So it seems like pretty much everyone who was using fat burners when they still contained ephedrine tend to say that none of the current fat burners can compare.
Right now I'm doing a cycle of VPX Meltdown, which claims to be 273% more potent than EC. So my question is to anyone who's used the legendary EC stack, does it really live up to all the hype that surrounds it? Is it worth buying asthma medication for the Ephedrine as opposed to buying another fat burner?

[ruds55]

EC is all that and a bottle of pop but look it up in the forums. A lot of people would tell you to stay away till your older

[jcosley]

It's not a miracle pill. It's just as good as the other fat burners out on the market and probably for 1/2 the price as well. It's very cost effective.

As for using, if your diet is crap...no point in taking any kind of fat burner.

[Dirty Diesel]

Originally Posted by GrimDisgorgance

So it seems like pretty much everyone who was using fat burners when they still contained ephedrine tend to say that none of the current fat burners can compare.
Right now I'm doing a cycle of VPX Meltdown, which claims to be 273% more potent than EC. So my question is to anyone who's used the legendary EC stack, does it really live up to all the hype that surrounds it? Is it worth buying asthma medication for the Ephedrine as opposed to buying another fat burner?

The ad states about Meltdown being 273% "more potent" than Ephedrine... not Ephedrine and caffeine stack together.. that is a whole different ball game. Watch the wording next time.

Have a nice day,
D.D.

[smt1]

Meltdown has Synepherine and Phenethylamine. They're not as thermogenic as Ephederine is. If Ephederine was still allowed to be in those fat burner pills, then it would be.

Fortunately for Synepherine, it cannot be easily made into desoxy-ephedrine (aka methamphetamine) like ephedrine can.

[GrimDisgorgance]

Originally Posted by Dirty Diesel

The ad states about Meltdown being 273% "more potent" than Ephedrine... not Ephedrine and caffeine stack together.. that is a whole different ball game. Watch the wording next time.

Have a nice day,
D.D.

No sir, I'm holding the bottle right here in my hand and it says:
"-972% more powerful than Ephedrine!
-273% more potent than Ephedrine/Caffeine!"


Anyways, I'm not really looking for a miracle pill. I'm currently attempting a body recompisition through carb/calorie cycling and I'm just looking for an extra boost.

[GrimDisgorgance]

Originally Posted by smt1

If Ephederine was still allowed to be in those fat burner pills, then it would be.

So this kinda got me thinking...

I've read a lot about how affective stacking Ephedrine/Caffeine/Yohimbine can be. Seeing as VPX Meltdown already contains C/Y, would it be a good idea to try just adding a dose of Ephedrine to my Meltdown, or am I just being straight-up crazy?

[thrashertm]

Originally Posted by GrimDisgorgance

No sir, I'm holding the bottle right here in my hand and it says:
"-972% more powerful than Ephedrine!
-273% more potent than Ephedrine/Caffeine!"


Anyways, I'm not really looking for a miracle pill. I'm currently attempting a body recompisition through carb/calorie cycling and I'm just looking for an extra boost.

I'm in the same boat, about to start using Lipo6 when it arrives in the mail. Have you any feedback with Meltdown yet?

[Dennisgsu]

I have lost 5 pounds in the first 12 days on an EC stack this will slow down but i can feel it working. I have used other fat burners and they do not raise body temp like EC has.

[Turbodynamics]

Didn't work for me, was gonna try it again on a super strict diet, but the more i read the more i want to stay away from all that stuff, using any of that for any length of time will more than likely give u a problem or 2 in later life. Before people start negging me, i know alot about the subject so dont hate...

[dust1984]

I'm on the EC stack right now. I like it a lot, they are right when they say it's a cost effective fat burner. It def. heat's me up pretty good, pretty fast and the appetite suppressing is probably one of my favorite affects.

What I do now is, 1 broncaid in the AM with 200mg C. 1 broncaid b4 workout with my PWO that is already loaded with C. Maybe one more dose in the afternoon but not usually unless it's a Friday or Saturday night b/c I don't want to lose sleep.

Lipo6, I can't speak for but I went a few weeks of Lipo6x. I got a good boost out of it, nice little rush. My problem is I felt like I lost muscle, this could of been from too much cardio with my added energy? I lost weight, but how much? B/c I was hitting the diet hard and working hard....

IMO - An EC stack, it's cheap enough to buy and enjoy the rush, you get the same rush for half price. Also, if you diet and workout good, how will you know if it's the pills or your hard work. The harder I try to drop fat and keep muscle the less I want the pill for assistance. Kinda like taking roids in a way, hard to take credit for hard work. This is my last round of EC.

[dragonaut]

It's good, but if your diet is not in check , don't bother taking any fat burners. ECA will boost your metabolism 2-3%, but the main benefit (at least for me) is that it blunts hunger, and gives you an energy boost taken before lifting.

[Gstay]

I wouldn't take EC with Y... Just my $0.02.

EC by itself is potent enough. And I totally agree with above as far as blunting hunger.
IMO most of the weightloss from taking EC comes from the fact that you will want to eat less.

I didn't really feel the stim effects until I hit my 3x a day. I believe that fat burners in nature are mostly placebo, but on EC you can actually really feel at least doing something.

I'll still continue to take whatever I have left, but as far as I'm concerned, EC is the only "fat burner" I'll ever buy again. For sure worth the $20 and then some.

[Dig]

You might think it isn't having an affect on you until you drop both the E and C cold turkey after a cycle. Prepare for a kick in the balls/ass/vagina/what have you.

[blurped]

Originally Posted by Dig

You might think it isn't having an affect on you until you drop both the E and C cold turkey after a cycle. Prepare for a kick in the balls/ass/vagina/what have you.

hence why you cycle down the caffeine

[Requisite 101]

Originally Posted by Turbodynamics

Didn't work for me, was gonna try it again on a super strict diet, but the more i read the more i want to stay away from all that stuff, using any of that for any length of time will more than likely give u a problem or 2 in later life. Before people start negging me, i know alot about the subject so dont hate...

What did you expect good sir? If your diet wasn't in place, in the first place, then without a doubt, "it wasn't going to work".

Eh, everything will give you a problem or two later in life. Exhibit A: sun exposure . Just pokin' fun at ya , I applaud you for doing your research.

But to the OP, yes, it lives up to the hype.

Can't stress this enough, the stack is a SUPPLEMENT to a solid diet and exercise routine. For many people, they shouldn't even bother with the EC stack until you're closer to your goal weight/body fat % or you're stuck in a rut (in which at this point you should be reassessing your diet and exercise routine anyway). A lot of people are under the assumption that fat burners will magically make up for a crap diet...this is no way true what so ever.

I'd say the EC stack is the most cost effective "fat burner" and gets the bang for the buck sorta speak.

[Nexs]

E/C Stack is God Mode

[U295]

Originally Posted by Nexs

E/C Stack is God Mode

repped.

e/c brings your whole performance to another level.

[Mr.FlipFlops]

Where do you buy it?

[Requisite 101]

Originally Posted by Mr.FlipFlops

Where do you buy it?

Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, etc. Any pharmacy for the most part.

The two main products that contain the E are Bronkaid and Primatene. Either one gets the job done. From what I see, people usually go with Bronkaid over Primatene though (it's usually cheaper).

Make sure you do your research before buying it though. I don't have the link on hand, but there is an official E/C FAQ thread on this forum (Losing Fat), I believe.

[samsont]

started my EC stack today.

noticed great increase in energy at the gym. I'll update after a week or two.

[CurlCurlCurl]

I have done Ephedra, Caffeine + Green Tea in the past, and to be honest I was really disappointed because I didn't have any increased weight loss. I did use Bronkaid instead of Ephedra HCL though. I will say that the combo works very good for appetite suppression, but I already have good willpower, so that wasn't an issue for me. I even doubled the dose suggested and it didn't affect me.

[DrNickd]

Is anyone taking aspirin with EC stack? What is the aspirin for--headaches?

I do my workout in the am..should i take it after my workout since i also do LISS cardio and dont wont my BP going too high.

Do u take between meals or with food?

Thanks

[GrimDisgorgance]

Originally Posted by thrashertm

I'm in the same boat, about to start using Lipo6 when it arrives in the mail. Have you any feedback with Meltdown yet?

Meltdown has been amazing. I did a cycle of Lipo 6x a couple months back and I gotta say Meltdown blows it out of the water. The only reason I'm looking for a change is because I'm looking for something to use for my long recomp as opposed to a quick cutting phase.

To everyone else; thanks for the input, I'm probably gonna be starting an ECY stack here soon.
Also, since my recomp plan has me doing some pretty intense calorie cycling, would it make sense to only use the stack on my deficit days?
I mean as far as thermogenics and appitite supression, it would be extremely helpful on those days, but maybe not so much on my muscle building days. Also perhaps this would prevent me from becoming tolerent and needing to cycle off?

[skyhighguy]

I live in Hawaii and I think it's impossible to get Bronkaid or Primatene tablets here (we have a bad Meth/"Ice" problem here). I called both Walgreen's and Long's and they both sounded a little taken aback when I asked them if they carried the products. Some web sites also say that they "DO NOT SHIP" to several states, including Hawaii.

Can anyone provide a good reputable link where I can order Vasopro, Bronkaid or similar? Many of the sites that I've Google'd look a little shady. Preferably, I'd like to hear from someone who's ordered from the site, personally.

Mahalo.

[GrimDisgorgance]

Originally Posted by GrimDisgorgance

Also, since my recomp plan has me doing some pretty intense calorie cycling, would it make sense to only use the stack on my deficit days?
I mean as far as thermogenics and appitite supression, it would be extremely helpful on those days, but maybe not so much on my muscle building days. Also perhaps this would prevent me from becoming tolerent and needing to cycle off?

Anyone?

[Gstay]

Originally Posted by GrimDisgorgance

Anyone?

Well it doesn't make you NOT EAT. haha. You can eat whenever you want. Usually in my experience you just don't even really think about it until you remind yourself.

Awhile ago I read about a guy that took it M-F and cycled off on weekends and still got good results, so maybe that would work. but I wouldn't cycle it on and off with your cals.
That IMO would be a waste of money and probably wouldn't accomplish that much.

Your body would be all... wtf? and it might start to lose it's potency.

Really, if you're only looking at it just for the App suppressant, you might as well be taking hoodia or something.

I would stick to the 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off suggested cycle, and see how that works for you. (Increasing dosages as recommended of course)

[samsont]

Its not gonna make the fat just immediately melt off. I decided to start using it because i've been in a bit of a mental and physical rut. More than a fat burner i needed a little bit more of a reason to push harder ,,, I'm not gonna spend money and take pills for nothing, so i have re-done my diet and workout program and am on my 4th day of EC/A.

So far i've noticed: its given me more energy to do things, work out etc not jittery. and it has definately allowed me to fight the late night craving and overeating @ dinner. i can also tell it has sped my metabolism up, i can tell these past 4 days i have lost a good bit of fat(havent hit the scale, but my man tits are looking smaller and my waist is looking tighter.. i have been exercising a ton + eca though.)

[Ripnlean]

Originally Posted by thrashertm

I'm in the same boat, about to start using Lipo6 when it arrives in the mail. Have you any feedback with Meltdown yet?

Used Lipo6 and haven't had any extra results with it bro.
Good luck though!, those big name products with all the advertising do reel people in.
I'd recommend animal cuts if you want a good fatburner, compared it in my blog against lipo6. Much better energy for my workouts thru universal animal cuts.

good luck

[Morillo]

EC is a cheap and effective "fat burner."

There's a good article somewhere about how to cycle the dosages during the weeks that you're on it.

Personally, I don't like how I feel on stims...