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Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati
"Why isn't the president of VT being questioned?
Why did he speak at a conference in 2005 explaining ways to get greater police power and surveillance on campuses?
Why did he give Cheneyesque stand down orders after the bomb threat?
Why did he also give stand down orders after the first shooting?
Why did he not immediately turn over medical records of the student that the State of Virginia declared a mental danger?
Why was a mental danger student accused of stalking allowed on campus?
Why did the bomb threats allow black ops all over the campus yet no lockdown of the school?
Why were there bodies on the grass and the sidewalk?
How does someone have to change clips at least 10 times with no one rushing him?
How does he chain the doors?
Why does he think of doing this?
The first killing involved nothing like this?
Where were the snipers, who were they targeting?
Who had command and control?
Incompetence is not an excuse for a massacre that looks nothing like a lone gunman and everything like a military black ops detail complete with pre and follow up propohanda.
Where are the hundreds of cellphone vids?
Why did the entire blackberry network masteriously go down around the time of the shootings?
Does this one guy who looks like he reads from a script and poses like he is auditioning, walk into a federal building in between shootings and send evidence that only points to a lone gunman with no official timestamp, just a marker?
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im lost....are you trying to turn this into a conspiracy?
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man they gotta do something about the laws for gun ownership in America. But seriously f*ck the republicans. Bill Clinton admitted that he tried to change the laws for gun ownership after the Columbine massacre ... but back then the republican had the majority votes in the house of rep. so it wasnt passed down. each time there is a republican president there is a war. take george bush for example. so i dont think anything will be changed anytime soon as long as republicans are in power... conservative bastards.
RIP to all the dead people.
Deep sorrow for all their families
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Ask some of the Americans....the solution to this gun problem is MORE guns. Now that's denial 101 with honors! If that type of thinking wasn't so deranged it would be blackly hilarious....
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hell yeah, so when someone is sporting a ****ing fully auto ak-47 with a beta c mag it only takes 7 seconds to kill all of them
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I imagine it cant be too easy to hold onto a gun (no matter what type), when there are 25+ students rushing you from every single direction. OR even 50+ in some university classrooms.
And not just at school either. Think about those mother****ers with only box cutters on 9-11.
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I imagine it cant be too easy to hold onto a gun (no matter what type), when there are 25+ students rushing you from every single direction. OR even 50+ in some university classrooms.
And not just at school either. Think about those mother****ers with only box cutters on 9-11.
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the hijackers on the 9-11 plane probably lied and told the passengers that they were going to be taken as hostages. that's why nobody did anything. all the sudden the plane goes into a nosedive and it's too late to do anything.
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04-22-2007, 09:08 AM
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Anti - I agree this entire series of events needs to be examined so this can be avoided in the future. Unfortunately, you have some questions that make no sense or are ill informed. Hell, it looks like you didn't follow much of any facts to the story and made a lot of stuff up.
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"Why isn't the president of VT being questioned?
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He can't possibly control every little aspect of the university. That's why they hire other people to help him out. He also isn't the expert on events like these, so he'll use these people to get the best opinion
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Why not? I dont' understand the question.
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If VT shut down each time it receiveda bomb threat, nothing would ever be done. During the post 9/11 times, there were lots of threats, and lots of people who discovered bags/boxes and thought they were bombs. You can't shut down an entire campus due to a possibly unfounded threat.
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He did? Even if he did, they had an asian student (with a gun collection and ties to the first shot girl) in custody for questioning. This was before the second round of shootings. My wild guess is they believed they had the guy.
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Why did he not immediately turn over medical records of the student that the State of Virginia declared a mental danger?
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You can't just pass medical records around. There are laws around this. And why is it the college's president's job to do this? Is he supposed to know about each weird kid at a 25k+ school??
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WTF is a mental danger? What rules do you propose for kicking kids out of school for breaking the law? Do they get permanently kicked out for drinking/doing drugs? Or do they have to do something in the range of murder?
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Why did the bomb threats allow black ops all over the campus yet no lockdown of the school?
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Do you mean FBI on campus? WTF do you mean by black ops? SWAT teams werent' there until the shootings. Did you actually follow any of the news or just make stuff up? And again, read my original statement about locking down the school due to bomb threats.
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Do you mean the injured that were taken out of the building or the kids that jumped out of the window? Some kids were shot and got out.
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How does someone have to change clips at least 10 times with no one rushing him?
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Cause people are scared ****less. Let me fire at you a couple times and see what you do, especially when no one expected it.
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Norris is a building with only a handful of classrooms. There isn't a lot of foot traffic. Once classes start, very few kids go through the front door. I've had classes in that building a couple of times, so I know.
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I'm not sure of the time of events, but I'm not sure SWAT/snipers had a chance to get into position before it all ended.
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Bwahahahahahahaha! That's hillarious! They have pretty detailed information about where he was and how he did it. And you have survivors who identified the animal who did all of this.
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Youtube, myspace, facebook
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Why did the entire blackberry network masteriously go down around the time of the shootings?
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Cause it has before. And what would that do? Only a small percentage of Americans use blackberrys compared to other cell services. Text messaging wasn't stopped for everyone.
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04-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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The first shooting starts at 7 am then second starts at 9 am. What the f**k was he doing in that 2 hour gap??? and where the hell is he??
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The first shooting starts at 7 am then second starts at 9 am. What the f**k was he doing in that 2 hour gap??? and where the hell is he??
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Forgot his backup ammo.
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04-22-2007, 12:05 PM
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The first shooting starts at 7 am then second starts at 9 am. What the f**k was he doing in that 2 hour gap??? and where the hell is he??
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He was mailing a package to NBC
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The first shooting starts at 7 am then second starts at 9 am. What the f**k was he doing in that 2 hour gap??? and where the hell is he??
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There preety sure he was making all those sick videos and pics he took. Why does everyone blame gun control he had all the proper paper work to recieve a gun in america. Theirs a lot of crazy people out there. Only a couple of them will go to a school and shoot people. If all guns were banned he would have just obtained those guns illegaly out of the back of a car. Tons of peole have guns. This is a very unfortunnate situation and my heart goes out to all the family friends and everyone at virginia tech but you can't blame the police they believed that it was a isolated incident just like a domestic homicide. They were questioning the girls boyfriend because the homicide investigators are trainined to go to the boyfriend or husband in a situation such as that because most of the time it will turn out to be a domestic homicide. Imo if they would lock it down he woulda just smashed a window or shot out a window and climbed in because of so much rage he was in. Everyone asks why the students didn't charge him. I mean anyone can say right now that they would fith back but really think about it if your were being fired at it's not liek the movies where peolple just jump infront of him and wrestle him the fear those students were in was unimaginable.
KEEP VT IN YOUR HEART.
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I was thinking about this issue for the entire week and have not since gotten it out of my head. My heart and prayers go out not only to the victims' families but also to Cho's family. I can't imagine how much Cho's parents and sister have to go through...Now they have to live with this for the rest of their lives.
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CIA historical facts, H.R. 1022, goodbye Bill of Rights
H.R. 1022
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h110-1022
"Always remember, the Second Amendment doesn?t GRANT the States a right to have a militia. It doesn?t even GRANT an individual right to possess firearms. It merely affirms that the government SHALL NOT INFRINGE upon an inalienable right that you already have.
This isn?t just about guns. When you allow government to take away ONE right, you risk losing ALL rights. What?s next? Free speech? Free press? Peaceable assembly? Freedom of worship?"
http://www.cigarintel.com/agency/?p=1974
"The CIA's program to create mind-controlled assassins that could be triggered by code words, MK ULTRA, is not a conspiracy theory, it's a historical fact documented by declassified government files and Senate hearings . President Bill Clinton himself had to apologize for the program before he left office."
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/...d_assassin.htm
Strange Virginia Tech ?Coincidences?
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/...incidences.htm
This was a provocateured attack by those who want One World Government, other countries do not have the freedoms that we do here, so they must be taken away from us to put us on a level playing field with them to facilitate the literal abolition of borders. This will allow the SPP to move ahead with less resistance.
www.spp.gov
Those of you who balk and strike back vehemently in opposition to the idea that YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT actually has a real motive and be wicked enough to ATTACK YOU AND CAUSE DEATH in order to destroy the United States Constitution that created the very freedom for YOU to PROFESS the things that you say you want, or that you, (or we, as Americans) should have in the United States, need to drop your defensiveness and get real.
It's time to pull your head out and go pick up Bill Cooper's book, "Behold, a Pale Horse", and read the chapter "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars".
Chapter 15
Protocols of the Wise men of Sion
PROTOCOL No. 7
"1. The intensification of armaments, the increase of police forces - are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans. What we have to get at is that there should be in all the States of the world, besides ourselves, only the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to our interests, police and soldiers."
UNIVERSAL WAR
"3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.
4. The principal factor of success in the political is the secrecy of its undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.
5. We must compel the governments of the CATTLE to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS."
PROTOCOL No. 11
"What we want is that from the first moment of its promulgation, while the peoples of the world are still stunned by the accomplished fact of the revolution, still in a condition of terror and uncertainty, they should recognize once for all that we are so strong, so inexpugnable, so super-abundantly filled with power, that in no case shall we take any account of them, and so far from paying any attention to their opinions or wishes, we are ready and able to crush with irresistible power all expression or manifestation thereof at every moment and in every place, that we have seized at once everything we wanted and shall in no case divide our power with them ... Then in fear and trembling they will close their eyes to everything, and be content to await what will be the end of it all."
excerpt from: THE REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN
"The war system makes the stable government of societies possible. It does this essentially by providing an external necessity for a society to accept political rule. In so doing, it establishes the basis for nationhood and the authority of government to control its constituents. What other institution or combination of programs might serve these functions in its place?
We have already pointed out that the end of war means the end of national sovereignty, and thus the end of nationhood as we know it today. But this does not necessarily mean the end of nations in the administrative sense, and internal political power will remain essential to a stable society. The emerging "nations" of the peace epoch must continue to draw political authority from some source.
A number of proposals have been made governing the relations between nations after total disarmament; all are basically juridical in nature. They contemplate institutions more or less like a World Court, or a United Nations, but vested with real authority. They may or may not serve their ostensible postmilitary purpose of settling international disputes, but we need not discuss that here. None would offer effective external pressure on a peace-world nation to organize itself politically.
It might be argued that a well-armed international police force, operating under the authority of such a supranational "court," could well serve the function of external enemy. This, however, would constitute a military operation, like the inspection schemes mentioned, and, like them, would be inconsistent with the premise of an end to the war system. It is possible that a variant of the "Unarmed Forces" idea might be developed in such a way that its "constructive" (i.e., social welfare) activities could be combined with an economic "threat" of sufficient size and credibility to warrant political organization. Would this kind of threat also be contradictory to our central premise? - that is, would it be inevitably military? Not necessarily, in our view, but we are skeptical of its capacity to evoke credibility. Also, the obvious destabilizing effect of any global social welfare surrogate on politically necessary class relationships would create an entirely new set of transition problems at least equal in magnitude."
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/ironmtn.html#sec.2
Many will say that The Report From Iron Mountain is satire. Much of what is stated in that report has already happened, and is still happening today.
Some facts:
YOU have likely consumed a diet of CFR controlled media, news all your life (and yes, the CFR DOES CONTROL ALL MAINSTREAM NEWS). Your seemingly bulletproof confidence and subconscious brainwashing have made it so that you REFUSE to even LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE out of COCKSURE ARROGANCE AND PRIDE.
YOU have been brainwashed into believe almost everything you read on the Internet is false and full of bs. There is more dangerous BS offline (because you actually believe it), if you believe any of the DRUG ADS that you are bombarded with when you watch TV, you are already a slave without realizing it.
YOU fail to realize, that EVEN IF these documents were not real, but only concocted satire, or even fiction like George Orwell's 1984, that they have nonetheless provided a TEMPLATE for reality. Much is now HISTORY.
YOU love to throw around labels to make you feel that your education wasn't a waste, to keep your pride from getting hurt, to reinforce FLAWED FAITH IN HUMANITY THAT IT IS INNATELY GOOD.
F.E.M.A. CAMP isn't far away, Department of Homeland Security affiliated private companies will soon be in charge of all college security in the United States, the BATF will be even more hellbent against gun mfgs. This will help usher in the National ID Card, this will help make a law get passed that will make it FEDERALLY MANDATORY THAT YOU SUBMIT A DNA SAMPLE TO THE US GOVT. IF YOU REFUSE YOU WILL GO TO JAIL (Maybe not jail at 1st, but you won't be able to drive, fly on a passenger jet, et al.) (They will use this as a foundation by stating that they have clearly identified "violence prone" DNA markers, and it will be exploited against you in numerous ways, not the least of which, preventing you from owning a GUN)
Hundreds of millions of Americans of abdicated their responsibilties from giving a damn what their elected officials have been doing in Govt. for the past 60+ years. The Democrat vs. Republican debates took you hook, line and sinker, while the real enemy (the Illuminati) was laughing their ass off.
God Bless this country, and i pray that these evil men who are truly behind this will be found out and brought to justice, their agenda will not prevail ultimately, but it will probably prevail enough in so much as to harshly infringe upon the very fabric of America, if not ruin the lives of everyone reading this before you live out your natural life.
9/11 provided the Illuminati with their holy-grail of generating perpetual fear into all, because terrorism is an enemy that can never be defeated.
After over 5 years, the FEAR had to be "refreshed", therefore Virginia Tech is ultra-secretly orchestrated, again they achieved, AN UNDEFEATABLE ENEMY (unless you give up all your rights--which is a lie).
Don't you people get it? It's a blueprint, it's PSY-OPS on the grandest scale.
God help us all.
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are you saying Cho is a government operative who shot those people and then faked his death?
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are you saying Cho is a government operative who shot those people and then faked his death?
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mo...ladelfia_4.htm
Noone has reported, nor said anything about anyone faking their own death regarding this, so I have nothing to say in that regard. That in and of itself would be irrelevant anyways. The implications of compartmentalized government involvement is as serious as it gets.
The sad thing is, even for people who want to dismiss such information that I have presented, the effects will affect your life anyways. The advantage that the Illuminati has in having you believe the official story, is the following (and this just a small example of the extent to where this will transcend):
1) Attack vulnerable kids at a place that is supposed to be safe, prestigious academic environment.
Psychological/Subconscious effect: Greatly upsets you and plants the seed in your mind that will in the future, soften your defenses, making it easier for you to accept a "compromise" to your otherwise strong belief in your rights in a free nation, especially privacy and the 2nd & 4th Amendment.
2) Illuminati controlled media shoves down your throat a constant barrage of reminders that "there is much work to be done with the mental health system", and that "because people didn't have access to medical records" that it is partly responsible for the worst shooting in US history.
Psychological/Subconscious effect: Furhter smashes your defenses and poisons your mind with the notion that if YOU, and everyone else, consents to divulging their medical records (OR PARTAKES IN A FUTURE MANDATORY FEDERAL OR STATE PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION TO OWN A GUN) to more parties (DMV, SCHOOLS), that have never had access to it before in any time in history, that it will make you, and society "safer". Remember, even most of our Senators and House Reps are not immune to this MINDWAR, in fact the problem is excacerbated for them because most of the American people, like sheep once again, will be crying out for their government to "protect" them.
3) The repetition that the shooter was a stalker
Psychological/Subconscious effect: Because he was a stalker, and that you now subconsciously believe that this was part of the pathology of the killer, you will now have less resistance to extremely invasive and unconstitutional surveillance, not the least of which being: BEHAVORIAL ANALYSIS/MONITORING. LIE DETECTORS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE IN RUSSIA AT AIRPORTS.
4) Thanks to our MKULTRA perfectionists, that operate perhaps from within the secret facility in Blacksburg itself (who knows), they made sure that this guy exhibited no violent public behavior to tip anyone off for many years. Also, one of the students themselves stated that during the shooting, HE HAD NO EMOTION ON HIS FACE, NO ANGRY EXPRESSION, NONE.
Psychological/Subconscious effect: You will now see angry parents, and others who will demand for "the mental health system" and/or the Federal Government, to find a solution to PREDICTING AND PREVENTING THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR BEFORE IT HAPPENS. I 100% GUARANTEE that soon you will see a public medical claim that they have identified a whole host of genetic DNA markers that they will claim "predict" future potential violent and anti-social behavior. YOU WILL BUY INTO IT BECAUSE THE SEEDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLANTED FROM THIS TRAGEDY THAT YOU NEED TO CONSENT TO HAVING YOUR DNA SUBMITTED TO DHS/FBI ETC FOR THE SAFETY OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS.
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Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
Operations Research
Technical Manual
TM-SW7905.1
SECURITY
"It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (SILENT WEAPONS) on a NATIONAL or WORLDWIDE scale without implying extensive OBJECTIVES of SOCIAL CONTROL and DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE, i.e., SLAVERY and GENOCIDE.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be SECURED FROM PUBLIC SCRUTINY. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a TECHNICALLY FORMAL DECLARATION OF DOMESTIC WAR. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and WITHOUT FULL KNOWLEDGE and CONSENT OF THE PUBLIC, USES SUCH KNOWLEDGE and METHODOLOGY FOR ECONOMIC CONQUEST -- it must be understood that A STATE OF DOMESTIC WARFARE EXISTS between said person or group of persons and the public.
The SOLUTION of today's PROBLEMS REQUIRES an approach which is RUTHLESSLY CANDID, with NO AGONIZING OVER RELIGIOUS, MORAL or CULTURAL VALUES
YOU have QUALIFIED for this project BECAUSE of your ABILITY to LOOK at HUMAN SOCIETY with COLD OBJECTIVITY, and yet analyze and DISCUSS your OBSERVATIONS and CONCLUSIONS with OTHERS of similar INTELLECTUAL capacity WITHOUT a LOSS of DISCRETION or HUMILITY. Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them."
Emphasis: Bill Cooper (RIP)
Copy of Top Secret document from: Behold, a Pale Horse, page 36.
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Does anyone have a link to the cell phone video that was taken during the shooting? It used to be widely available, on youtube and elsewhere, and now has been taken off supposedly because of some CNN copyright. I went to CNN and couldnt find it there either. Does anyone know anywhere else this video might be located on the net? Thanks in advance.
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04-23-2007, 03:47 PM
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It's not proper to talk about Asians if you are not one yourself. Why do you generalize and stereotype? Its that kind of ignorance that creates problems.
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04-23-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cml9503
I myself was recently accepted as a transfer student. While this is a tragic event, It doesn't effect my desire to go there. While people will get over this, I am saddened to say this event will be a scar on the school for some time to come.
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yes I agree. I attended Baylor University in Waco, Texas and many of my friends only knew the town for the Branch Davidians which is rediculous because it had nothing to do with the University itself. But like my university, unfortunely VT's reputation will suffer for a period of time.
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04-23-2007, 04:47 PM
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I knew Cho.
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04-23-2007, 05:00 PM
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I knew Cho.
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Seriously? If so, please tell us more...
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04-23-2007, 05:40 PM
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so it's been a long time since i started this thread and i really didnt expect this event to turn into what it did.
it is truly the worst event to ever happen at my school and i feel terrible for all the victims and just everyone related.
it turns out i am freinds with andy, the guy who is now all over the news as being the gunman's roomate in a prior year....he hasnt returned my phone calls or anything and ir eally cant imagine what hes going through now
on another note we started classes today and simply put, the professors are being extremely nice and basically anything we want to turn in we can, and anything we don't want to turn in we dont have to
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04-23-2007, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by quest-x
I wouldn't say that the following is typical behavior experienced by those picked on:
I feel it's safe to assume he suffered that degree of abuse consistently in high school.
My heart broke when I read the above quote. I knew loners and kids that were degraded and picked on in high school, and I was one as well. I, unlike many, and with extreme difficulty, found a way to gradually overcome myself (and though I've seemingly "recovered" on the outside, mentally it's still an issue I'm dealing with.) If the circumstances were even just a bit different, I might not have changed--I might still be in the miserable, hopeless, depressed hole I was in before. What I am saying is that I am unique (as is everyone), that I was able to get myself out of that hole mainly because of who I was.
The killer cannot be compared to everyone else, because everyone is different--He was affected and impacted by his experiences in life differently than everyone else. There are too many factors--Does one have any friends at all? Does one have support from family? How was one raised? When/where/how was one picked on? Did one have ways to find hope and goodness? Did one read certain magazines or see certain movies that had an influence? etc. What you get in the end is a very complex character. What I'm saying is that one often simply cannot make comparisons, because often the answer is never so simple. What is often failed to be realized is that even the little differences between situations can have the biggest significance in the outcome. Yes a lot of other loners/bullied kids out there would never do something like this, but every person is different, and no one will truly know how much the bullying/the teasing/his other adverse past experiences affected him.--Possibly totally changing his views on everything in life and conclusively climaxing in this massacre.
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his favorite movie is a korean movie called Oldboy about a guy who gets wrongfully locked up. when he gets out, he goes on a killing spree to get revenge.
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04-23-2007, 05:52 PM
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his favorite movie is a korean movie called Oldboy about a guy who gets wrongfully locked up. when he gets out, he goes on a killing spree to get revenge.
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Yes, and?
Not sure how this pertains to what I wrote.
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04-23-2007, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quest-x
Did one have ways to find hope and goodness? Did one read certain magazines or see certain movies that had an influence? etc.
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i think Seung thought he could relate to the main character in the movie. he felt he was wrongly made to suffer and he wanted revenge. he also gives a shoutout to the Columbine shooters, who were also killing for revenge. he saw glory in revenge and martyrdom. he even compared himself to Jesus.
this pose was inspired by the movie Oldboy.
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04-23-2007, 06:12 PM
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the main character in Oldboy was wrongly made to suffer, but got his revenge in the end.
several of his poses were inspired by Oldboy, including this one

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I'm pretty sure the point of my post escaped you, but it's ok because I deleted my post. Upon contemplation, I decided I rather not discuss in this thread.
Thanks for responding though--I didn't know that was his inspiration for the massacre. Interesting/horrific.
Edit--And you were right. Your response did pertain to that bit I wrote in my original post.
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04-23-2007, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by quest-x
I'm pretty sure the point of my post escaped you, but it's ok because I deleted my post. Upon contemplation, I decided I rather not discuss in this thread.
Thanks for responding though--I didn't know that was his inspiration for the massacre. Interesting/horrific.
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no, i read your post. i just decided to respond to one specific part of it, regarding some of his media influences.
the backwards adjustable black cap with black gloves he wore is an Eric Harris reference, i think
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04-23-2007, 06:16 PM
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no, i read your post. i just decided to respond to one specific part of it.
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I know. When I realized that, I laughed.
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04-23-2007, 06:51 PM
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I find Cho more troubling than the Columbine kids, who spared some kids, whereas Cho just was out to kill people, he didn't even say a word while he was doing the dirty act it seems.
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04-23-2007, 07:12 PM
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**** son!!!!!! Spielberg oughta be lookin at those scripts he wrote!
not.......... those sucked
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