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Ok, anyone out there actually has some legit NFL connections. I have been in the process of helping my friend land a placement into an NFL camp, but so far nothing. We are working with the scouting company that was suppose to get him placed but so far nothing. He?s aWR that played for Western Illinois and just dominates wherever he goes over DB?s or other WR competiting for a spot. So any feedback/info/connections let me knw. PM is the best way to get a hold of me. thanks.

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Old 08-10-2009, 06:06 PM   #2
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:23 PM   #3
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cool. any other feedback/contacts/etc?

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Old 08-10-2009, 06:54 PM   #4
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Yep, he already contacted them, cuz he got drafted for the UNGL a few months ago, but so far that league is still up in the air. The WR coach for the las vegas team has seen him ball out already, but said the league want to take NFL experience first, before selecting outsiders. He lives in Las Vegas, too, and has contacted the league so he can compete for a spot, but nothing yet.

One thing that i have learned is that there are many biases in getting picked up. Even though you might dominate, ballout and make the other players look foolish/stupid sometimes they still wont give you a shot. Checkout this CFL workout he did ran a 4.31 the first time and killed everyone out there, yet, all the coaches could say was that we're intersted in signing you so well get back to you and yet nothing. I have went with him to several CLF/AFL team workouts which i recorded and teh same thing. He's the top WR there and dominates every DB in front of him, but yet nothing. Maybe if he was related to Fitz, Boldin,etc. they would give him a shot.

We have done pretty much all we could on our end: submiting footage, pics, stats, etc, so now were waiting for something to come threw.

I tried to post the youtube link so you can watch his CFL tryout,but youtube is down atm. so wil link it when i get back from the gym.
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Yep, he already contacted them, cuz he got drafted for the UNGL a few months ago, but so far that league is still up in the air. The WR coach for the las vegas team has seen him ball out already, but said the league want to take NFL experience first, before selecting outsiders. He lives in Las Vegas, too, and has contacted the league so he can compete for a spot, but nothing yet.

One thing that i have learned is that there are many biases in getting picked up. Even though you might dominate, ballout and make the other players look foolish/stupid sometimes they still wont give you a shot. Checkout this CFL workout he did ran a 4.31 the first time and killed everyone out there, yet, all the coaches could say was that we're intersted in signing you so well get back to you and yet nothing. I have went with him to several CLF/AFL team workouts which i recorded and teh same thing. He's the top WR there and dominates every DB in front of him, but yet nothing. Maybe if he was related to Fitz, Boldin,etc. they would give him a shot.

We have done pretty much all we could on our end: submiting footage, pics, stats, etc, so now were waiting for something to come threw.

how is his blocking?
what about route running?
can he get off the line when the DB plays press?
does he add anything on special teams?

its nice to say he dominates people in the tryouts but the things i listed actually help more when it comes to getting a teams attention
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i can maybe put in a word wit the cards for him but we got WR's pretty stacked rite now lol.
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Did you watch the highlight vids? His blocking is good, his ability to release off the line pressed is excellent, his routes and hands are some of the best ive seen coming out from the state of california. He was one of the top WR in high school coming out of cali and the team he played for ran a wing-T offense and a first year QB, who was a baseball pitcher. Watch his high school highlights, cuz at that level his routes, hands, releases where already at another level. Yeah he can do punt /kick off return. His former teamate is mike scrifies, punter from the chargers, but hasn't been too helpfull for him when we have asked for some help. To be honest with you guys, Mike doesn't even return our calls when we have hit him up while attending workouts out there for CFL teams. Ill post the links for the tryout so you can see what takes place wherever we go. We got a lot more footage of other workouts, but was on a limited schedule to compile everything.

CFL workout: http://www.youtube.com/user/caliball.../2/8PCPsLHI9pI

JUCO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0RGYlqTfiQ


High school PT 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SUS9a2ev8
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how is his blocking?
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does he add anything on special teams?

its nice to say he dominates people in the tryouts but the things i listed actually help more when it comes to getting a teams attention
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i can maybe put in a word wit the cards for him but we got WR's pretty stacked rite now lol.

If you can bro that would be great. I already told the scouting company that I would be willing to pay for the flight to a camp, just set the day, time, location, and he's on the first plane to the camp.

even though you guys are stacked, im pretty sure he would make the final cut. His friend and former teamate Marco Thomas(Raiders/Giants/sandiego) has told terrence numerous times that he could dominate out there if they just give him a shot. Just let me know. It would be an answer to prayer man. Also UNlimitedGain, you might want to ask Stephen Spach if he remembers the private workouts they used to have with Steve Cabonya(Fresno State coach) that Terrence used to attend with him and other NFL players. He could probably validate what i am saying regarding his playing ability.

I have even told the scouting company to put Terrence against the top WR's to battle for a placement spot, but they keep telling me that it is not needed, based on what other coaches have said about Terrence's ability to play, his highlights, tryout footage, stats, etc. My response is, if that's the case then why hasn't he been placed yet. There usual response has been we're working on getting him placed with such and such team, but nothing has come threw. THats why I decided to see what you guys thought or if you got connections, etc.

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Hes good and all but its probably because he doesnt really do anything after the catch...I watched half the vid and most of the time he was tackled by the first defender and if it wasnt the first it was the second....had some nice catches couple nice moves but YAC isnt looking that great from that vid...(no hate just my opinion) I think if he got more yards after catching the ball it would be a different story.
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Hes good and all but its probably because he doesnt really do anything after the catch...I watched half the vid and most of the time he was tackled by the first defender and if it wasnt the first it was the second....had some nice catches couple nice moves but YAC isnt looking that great from that vid...(no hate just my opinion) I think if he got more yards after catching the ball it would be a different story.
Appreciate your feedback bro, but honestly when we put the vid together we had to go threw hours of stuff to findout what we thought would be the best attributes that a coach/scout/gm/etc. would want to see in a WR and I think YAC is a definite plus, but we were more focused on: WR hands, ability to release off the line, adjusting to the ball, reading the defense to complete the route, feetplacement, catching the ball in bounds,catching it in tight spaces bwt defense, etc. There was tens of hours of footage and not enough time so, we did the best we could. Plus, i think it could be debated, do i want a guy who can succesfuly catch a ball 30plus yards out(all hands/adjusting to the ball/etc), or maybe catch a 15 yd pass then hopefully get 5-10 yards after? And there are some clips of him going 10 yd plus after the catch. Thanks bro.
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No hate, but I'm just wondering if he was one of the top WRs in Cali, how'd he end up at Western Illinois?
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at this guys size you have to be special. Like steve smith(panthers ) I was at cards camp this weekend and we have a 6 ft 185 pound reciever named steve breaston who went to michigan. other than that there is fitz, boldin and jeremy urban who is like 6foot 3 and 220.
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No hate, but I'm just wondering if he was one of the top WRs in Cali, how'd he end up at Western Illinois?
politics of the game my friend. You'll begin to realize how political things are when you move up in play. Besides, just because you might attend a big name school doesn't always equate with talent. There's more to the story, but rather not get into that, just trying to network you know.
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politics of the game my friend. You'll begin to realize how political things are when you move up in play. Besides, just because you might attend a big name school doesn't always equate with talent. There's more to the story, but rather not get into that, just trying to network you know.
Yeah I completely understand, just went through some of that myself.

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Appreciate your feedback bro, but honestly when we put the vid together we had to go threw hours of stuff to findout what we thought would be the best attributes that a coach/scout/gm/etc. would want to see in a WR and I think YAC is a definite plus, but we were more focused on: WR hands, ability to release off the line, adjusting to the ball, reading the defense to complete the route, feetplacement, catching the ball in bounds,catching it in tight spaces bwt defense, etc. There was tens of hours of footage and not enough time so, we did the best we could. Plus, i think it could be debated, do i want a guy who can succesfuly catch a ball 30plus yards out(all hands/adjusting to the ball/etc), or maybe catch a 15 yd pass then hopefully get 5-10 yards after? And there are some clips of him going 10 yd plus after the catch. Thanks bro.
Yeah np, I know what your saying but next time you guys make one I think you should put in some of what hes doing after the catch..I mean if I was a coach and looking for a reciever I would also be looking at that. While it might not be the top priority it's definitely a big plus to have a reciever that can make something happen. TO for example, dude's a tremendous athlete, he breaks tackles and can pick up big yardage..he can turn a small screen into a 50 yard td
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:39 PM   #21
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he tried out for winnipeg blue bombers? good luck(i'm from winnipeg, we suck)


anyway, good luck to him, maybe he should talk to one of his coaches in college
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im good friends with brian westbrook from the phili. ill put a good word in and try my best but no promises man. g/l tho and your a good friend helping him out.
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