Anyone else not use supplements?

[GDA]

tons of pasta and lots of beer = strong.

[LittleCharlie]

Originally Posted by larsen540

I cant believe that there are people that dont use supps. Even if you are to cheap to buy them at the bare min you need to be taking a multi vitamin and Protien I really doubt your eating anywhere near what your body needs.

It depends how big you are really though, isn't it. I go by the rule of thumb 1g to 1.5g of protein per lb of body weight. I'm 110lbs so I can easily eat that much AND stay under my diet deficit. I only ever take a little extra protein if I do cardio as well as weight lifting because it just gives me that extra muscle repair, and then because of my size it's only ever half a scoop. Good thing about being a small female I guess, keeps the price of supplements down!

[Blindead]

Anything over 1g/lb of bw is unneeded unless you're on anabolics. Even then the increase in protein requirements isn't as large as you'd think.

[skinnycalves]

Originally Posted by Daman123

seems like the weak ****ers in here use all of the supplements, whereas the ones who actually have a but if strength use none to very little.

Think about it OP

[samsuperjew]

Originally Posted by Blindead

Anything over 1g/lb of bw is unneeded unless you're on anabolics. Even then the increase in protein requirements isn't as large as you'd think.

HAHAHAHAHAHA (ha)

[skinnycalves]

I would say anything over 1.5g per pound of bodyweight, since the body is not 100% efficient.

[larsen540]

Originally Posted by LittleCharlie

It depends how big you are really though, isn't it. I go by the rule of thumb 1g to 1.5g of protein per lb of body weight. I'm 110lbs so I can easily eat that much AND stay under my diet deficit. I only ever take a little extra protein if I do cardio as well as weight lifting because it just gives me that extra muscle repair, and then because of my size it's only ever half a scoop. Good thing about being a small female I guess, keeps the price of supplements down!

Yea I suppose that if you were 100lbs (Lucky You) then consuming that much protien in a day is very doable. Whey protien also helps your body produce amino acids, and will help rebuild your body after an important workout. If you are going to stick with only taking protein once a day then I would strongly suggest you take it within an hour after your workout. I dont know why you would only take a half of a scoop. I suggest if this is what you are going to do is take just under two scoops post workout. No matter how intense it is. Your body needs it. And this will help with recovery. However I suggest that you in take about 80grms per day just by protien powder (shakes) per day. Along with your meals I think that you would notice a huge change. If you dont believe me call any supplement store around where you live and aske them.

[larsen540]

Originally Posted by Blindead

Anything over 1g/lb of bw is unneeded unless you're on anabolics. Even then the increase in protein requirements isn't as large as you'd think.

This is not true. It depends how you space it out through the day. I would recomend anyone following a bodybuilder routine, powerlifting should digest about no less then one gram to 1.5 grams of protien per bodyweight pound. It has nothing to do with anabolics at all.

[Halfway]

all natural brah, no supplements here. I EARN my muscle the old fashioned way.

I average 2 cups of TP whey mix, 4-8 tblspoons of my lovely lemon flavored fish oil, 4 x cissus's, 4 x source naturals vits, 15g's creatine EE, couple scoops of the TP No2 blend

[skinnycalves]

Originally Posted by Halfway

all natural brah, no supplements here. I EARN my muscle the old fashioned way.

Do you attribute your high test levels to bison liver?

[muscleman420]

Originally Posted by Purostaff

whey, multi, fish oil = staple

trying b-alanine atm.. can't really see any difference, but it's pretty cheap

i love it. try a 4g dose preworkout and a 2-3g does on off days. its frequently under dosed. i actaully didn't miss a single PR attempt for like 4-5 months after i started taking it preworkout.

i take:
beta alanine
creatine - just started
caffeine
protein
BCAAs
multi

i need to get fish oil again, i forget it all the time. All my supps have medical studies to back up their effectiveness; i dont take anything that doesn't have statistically significant results. i stick to cheap and effective supps. i also take a few sleep aids - melatonin, but i dont know if it really help with lifting.

[LessThanLuke]

I don't use supplements. Can't afford them.

[the_jks]

Originally Posted by muscle_g

I"ll go through spurts where I don't take anything, other than vitamins and minerals. But I do notice a big difference when I'm using supplements. All I think someone needs is Whey Protein, Creatine Monohydrate, and a Multi Vit/Min

this

[BEhave]

Heres a great article on timing your meals for great gains.

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-and-strength/

[fyre500]

Originally Posted by BEhave

Heres a great article on timing your meals for great gains.

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-and-strength/

Overkill.

[Arlecchino]

Protein requirements are a very individual thing, and it is next to impossible to make a one size fits all recommendation with respect to protein / kg bodyweight. The metabolism of the individual, the remainder of the individual's diet (both macro and micro-nutrients), supplementation (to a degree, as protein efficiency/biolavailability plays a role as well) training intensity, volume, etc.


One gigantic ass juggling act/guessing game.

[UHCougar05]

Originally Posted by BEhave

Heres a great article on timing your meals for great gains.

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-and-strength/

That just seems like way too much food. But that's just me. If I hit 1.5-2g/kg of BW in protein, it's been a good day.

[dparm99]

On a side note - How safe is it to consume multivitamins that are out of date? I have a bottle that is about 8 months out of date. Thoughts?

[dizi24]

Only supplements for lifting are creatine and casein. I'd throw some taurine, ALCAR, beta alanine, and a couple others if I could afford it.

For general health I take fish oil, green tea extract, and a multi.

[GDA]

Originally Posted by dparm99

On a side note - How safe is it to consume multivitamins that are out of date? I have a bottle that is about 8 months out of date. Thoughts?

ive been using mine, and i think they're even older. my pee still turns funny colors, so i guess its working.

[BEhave]

Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Protein requirements are a very individual thing, and it is next to impossible to make a one size fits all recommendation with respect to protein / kg bodyweight. The metabolism of the individual, the remainder of the individual's diet (both macro and micro-nutrients), supplementation (to a degree, as protein efficiency/biolavailability plays a role as well) training intensity, volume, etc.


One gigantic ass juggling act/guessing game.

Well that write up doesn't do that. Not sure if you guys read the article or just looked at the diet, but it talks about when your body absorbs the most protein. Something about insulin spikes and stuff and when the best time to take in food is

Anyways ?I agree with you that most of it is individual based. However, humans are all pretty much the same physiologically and anatomically.

[Blindead]

Originally Posted by larsen540

This is not true. It depends how you space it out through the day. I would recomend anyone following a bodybuilder routine, powerlifting should digest about no less then one gram to 1.5 grams of protien per bodyweight pound. It has nothing to do with anabolics at all.

Science disagrees.