Vigorous exercise won?t help you lose weight

sugitha · 08-11-2009, 01:30 AM

We frequently see advertisements on exercises to lose weight in televisions, banners on the road side and all over the internet. Does exercise truly help us to reduce weight? The answer is no. shocking! I was stunned when I heard the news myself. ?In general, for weight loss, exercise is pretty useless,? says Eric Ravussin, chairman in diabetes and metabolism at Louisiana State University and a prominent exercise researcher.

giripai · 08-11-2009, 02:07 AM

Then what should we do?

Krique · 08-11-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sugitha

We frequently see advertisements on exercises to lose weight in televisions, banners on the road side and all over the internet. Does exercise truly help us to reduce weight? The answer is no. shocking! I was stunned when I heard the news myself. ?In general, for weight loss, exercise is pretty useless,? says Eric Ravussin, chairman in diabetes and metabolism at Louisiana State University and a prominent exercise researcher.

Ugh... not more of this crap. Exercise only works if your diet is in check. Exercise is useless when people burn 200 calories and then eat +500 more as a reward.

iPerfectDark · 08-11-2009, 02:23 AM

The fact is the average person either needs to excersise more, or eat less.

We are constantly being told to do both, so fat people have NO excuse.

Gronnie · 08-11-2009, 02:39 AM

Negged.

gbone74 · 08-11-2009, 02:49 AM

Exercise is not essential to being lean or relatively healthy(not fit).

We all know people who are stick thin and never exercise and we all know fat joggers,the difference is food intake and type,Diet far outweighs any exercise

H1t_V3r4c · 08-11-2009, 02:53 AM

just a small question:
if you are on a clean diet, doesn't exercise allow you to eat more?
i'm just sort of confused.
also just another question:
when on a calorie deficit, is cardio needed? or is it only used so if you burn a good amount you can eat it back?

Krique · 08-11-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by H1t_V3r4c

just a small question:
if you are on a clean diet, doesn't exercise allow you to eat more?
i'm just sort of confused.
also just another question:
when on a calorie deficit, is cardio needed? or is it only used so if you burn a good amount you can eat it back?

1) Yes but a lot of people find it easier to just eat less than to run more.

2) No, you don't need it. Though, it can help kick your weight loss in the ass.

H1t_V3r4c · 08-11-2009, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Krique

1) Yes but a lot of people find it easier to just eat less than to run more.

2) No, you don't need it. Though, it can help kick your weight loss in the ass.

legend, i've been wanting to know this for a while
repped

hazzard623 · 08-11-2009, 07:15 AM

Obesity has risen health care cost in America by billions. Do to no exercise and a general lack of nutrition obesity has occurred in American people. Obama is trying to reform Americas healthcare, but everyone needs to do their part! "Ask not what your country can do for you , ask what you can do for your country". Those of you who have taken the steps of obesity prevention are moving forward into a healthier more prosperous country, and your knowledge should be passed down to your children.

-Sincerely Hazzard623

euclid · 08-11-2009, 07:26 AM

I think you might be referring to the article in Time magaine? If so, it doesn't say that exercise won't help you lose weight, stay fit and all that. What it is suggesting is that many people who do exercise end up overeating afterwards because they feel like they've "earned it," or they are much hungrier than they normally would be. Exercise will help you lose weight - you are expending energy. The bottom line is, if the diet is not in check, no amount of normal physical activity will help make up for it.

Autobody · 08-11-2009, 07:29 AM

I love these threads.

euclid · 08-11-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by H1t_V3r4c

just a small question:
if you are on a clean diet, doesn't exercise allow you to eat more?
i'm just sort of confused.
also just another question:
when on a calorie deficit, is cardio needed? or is it only used so if you burn a good amount you can eat it back?

1. It doesn't matter how "clean" or "dirty" your diet is. If your body required 2200 calories a day to maintain it's current state and after food and exercise you've got a surplus of calories - no matter what the food source - it will be stored as fat. From a fat storage standpoint, you could eat 2200 calories of pizza, burgers, coke, cake, etc.. and be better off than if you ate 2400 calories of lean meat, whole grains, healthy fats etc. At the end of the day its cals in vs. cals out

2. Cardio is not required to lose fat. However, cardio is good for your heart and it will also help you create a larger calorie deficit, further increasing your fat loss. I don't look at cardio as a way to counterract poor food choices. It takes far too long to burn off 500 calories jogging than it does to refrain from eating that extra pack of cookies.

lost1700 · 08-11-2009, 07:35 AM

the copy and paste in this thread is strong

iDrive · 08-11-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lost1700

the copy and paste in this thread is strong

Indeed, the scent of troll in this thread is strong.

ZidaneValor · 08-11-2009, 09:21 AM

I'm getting too old to make the same rants twice:

CNN: More Exercise = Harder to Lose Weight

TheKansan · 08-11-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sugitha

We frequently see advertisements on exercises to lose weight in televisions, banners on the road side and all over the internet. Does exercise truly help us to reduce weight? The answer is no. shocking! I was stunned when I heard the news myself. ?In general, for weight loss, exercise is pretty useless,? says Eric Ravussin, chairman in diabetes and metabolism at Louisiana State University and a prominent exercise researcher.

That's funny because I lost over 260 pounds using exercise. I guess you are just wrong.

heatlill · 08-11-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKansan

That's funny because I lost over 260 pounds using exercise. I guess you are just wrong.

It's intake vs output. If you burn more than you eat you lose, if you eat more than you burn you gain. Some people have better results with diet, others with exercise.

We are all unique, just like everyone else.

GWJ · 08-11-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by euclid

1. It doesn't matter how "clean" or "dirty" your diet is. If your body required 2200 calories a day to maintain it's current state and after food and exercise you've got a surplus of calories - no matter what the food source - it will be stored as fat. From a fat storage standpoint, you could eat 2200 calories of pizza, burgers, coke, cake, etc.. and be better off than if you ate 2400 calories of lean meat, whole grains, healthy fats etc. At the end of the day its cals in vs. cals out

2. Cardio is not required to lose fat. However, cardio is good for your heart and it will also help you create a larger calorie deficit, further increasing your fat loss. I don't look at cardio as a way to counterract poor food choices. It takes far too long to burn off 500 calories jogging than it does to refrain from eating that extra pack of cookies.

Well put.

gbone74 · 08-11-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKansan

That's funny because I lost over 260 pounds using exercise. I guess you are just wrong.

surely it was the calorie deficit that the exercise added to or even created that lost you the weight not just exercise on its own.

NWright79 · 08-11-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by heatlill

It's intake vs output. If you burn more than you eat you lose, if you eat more than you burn you gain. Some people have better results with diet, others with exercise.

We are all unique, just like everyone else.

I agree with that. Of course I lost 50 pounds doing nothing except eating perfectly. Then it stopped. So I put in cardio no real change. So I did 5 minutes of cardio and started lifting heavy... What do you know... fat started coming off again. Only been since July 1 though.

IMHO you have to keep changing changing changing. Food, exercises, cardio, etc.

mikelog · 08-11-2009, 11:20 AM

Vigorous exercise will help you lose weight. The key word is 'help' meaning it burns calories to help you reach your desired weight. Eating an unhealthy diet versus eating clean is more than the number of calories. It is the quality of the calories you are eating. When I eat unhealthy for a day my body feels like crap and I have no energy. Healthy eating provides you with more stable energy levels so you can work out longer and harder.

Majin_Buu · 08-11-2009, 11:23 AM

When you're trying to have less than you burn, do you feel uncomfortable? I'm ok until about 12 oclock at night where I'm absolutely craving to boost my cals to maintenence... any tips?

heatlill · 08-11-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Majin_Buu

When you're trying to have less than you burn, do you feel uncomfortable? I'm ok until about 12 oclock at night where I'm absolutely craving to boost my cals to maintenence... any tips?

Brush your teeth, chew some sugar free gum, go for a walk, drink some water. Whatever helps you NOT eat.

Majin_Buu · 08-11-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by heatlill

Brush your teeth, chew some sugar free gum, go for a walk, drink some water. Whatever helps you NOT eat.

:P understood.. il try my best

upper90farpost · 08-11-2009, 01:47 PM

ever wonder why a gastric bypass works? people, regardless of how much they exercise, are literally not able to take in enough calories to maintain weight. they are therefore in a calorie deficit at all times. they lose weight by a forced diet without having to exercise at all. perfect for the fat, lazy american. (no hate to any with this done)

curb_pks · 08-11-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by iDrive

Indeed, the scent of troll in this thread is strong.

This

user5564651 · 08-11-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sugitha

We frequently see advertisements on exercises to lose weight in televisions, banners on the road side and all over the internet. Does exercise truly help us to reduce weight? The answer is no. shocking! I was stunned when I heard the news myself. ?In general, for weight loss, exercise is pretty useless,? says Eric Ravussin, chairman in diabetes and metabolism at Louisiana State University and a prominent exercise researcher.

I actually disagree. Exercise tones and is good for your heart and lungs- and it does help metabolism some what. Not near as much as people think, but if you must diet and don't exercise, you wont look good at all. You'll just be skinny-fat.

_OZ_ · 08-11-2009, 03:56 PM

You can't out-train a bad diet

thorton · 08-11-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by euclid

1. It doesn't matter how "clean" or "dirty" your diet is. If your body required 2200 calories a day to maintain it's current state and after food and exercise you've got a surplus of calories - no matter what the food source - it will be stored as fat. From a fat storage standpoint, you could eat 2200 calories of pizza, burgers, coke, cake, etc.. and be better off than if you ate 2400 calories of lean meat, whole grains, healthy fats etc. At the end of the day its cals in vs. cals out

2. Cardio is not required to lose fat. However, cardio is good for your heart and it will also help you create a larger calorie deficit, further increasing your fat loss. I don't look at cardio as a way to counterract poor food choices. It takes far too long to burn off 500 calories jogging than it does to refrain from eating that extra pack of cookies.

Good points here.

As to the heart thing. at 465 pounds my resting heart rate was 125bpm...

at 310 pounds it is down to 68-72. I still have roughly 25-30% BF, but my resting heart rate shows it is no longer really killing me. Blood pressure is low as well.

People need to ask themselves if they are doing this to solely look good, or to live a healthier life. Exercise fits into both of those. I am convinced it has helped in keeping my skin and body healthy to the point of my skin is not really saggy, even after loosing a 165 pounds. This is purely common sense.