steroid or not

Seb_iron · 04-20-2007, 01:30 PM

hello everyone

one of my training partners ask my opinion about some products that we can find on roidstore.com. He wants to get these product because he has difficulty taking mass.I went to see these products to make me an opinion. I believe that these products can help but it will never replace the illegal steroids. I am not a professional, I would like to have your opinion to.

thank you to all

dexterium · 04-20-2007, 01:38 PM

Sir,

You will get better results by asking this question in the steroids section.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17

Good day

Interlocutor · 04-20-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb_iron

hello everyone

one of my training partners ask my opinion about some products that we can find on roidstore.com. He wants to get these product because he has difficulty taking mass.I went to see these products to make me an opinion. I believe that these products can help but it will never replace the illegal steroids. I am not a professional, I would like to have your opinion to.

thank you to all

despite the roidlike names, those are not steroids at all. the only roids in roidstore are hemorrhoids. that site is a scam, to leech of people like you and your friend. their products are absolutely worthless, and any legal PH will provide much better results. any results are placebo. just do a search with google.

if you find anything there that is more than underdosed creatine, DHEA, androsterone, or 19nor, you're lucky. but usually it will be vitamins, caffeine, or vanadyl sulfate or somesuch crap. you are directed to the steroid sucbsection, so you'll get flamed to hell for not even trying google once before posting a question concerning one of the most obvious scams on the web.

stay far far away from that type of ****. total waste of money.

if you want legal roids, use legal roids:

SD clones
PP clones
H-50 clones
Epi clones
etc.

all of those are actual, real, methylated oral steroids. not that fake crap. and you can find them right here, on bb.com.

THE INTERLOCUTOR

C. Griswald · 04-20-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb_iron

hello everyone

one of my training partners ask my opinion about some products that we can find on roidstore.com. He wants to get these product because he has difficulty taking mass.I went to see these products to make me an opinion. I believe that these products can help but it will never replace the illegal steroids. I am not a professional, I would like to have your opinion to.

thank you to all

you dont post much so ill be easy on you, all of it is trash

Kraftydog · 04-21-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb_iron

hello everyone

one of my training partners ask my opinion about some products that we can find on roidstore.com. He wants to get these product because he has difficulty taking mass.I went to see these products to make me an opinion. I believe that these products can help but it will never replace the illegal steroids. I am not a professional, I would like to have your opinion to.

thank you to all

complete scam. tribulus and dhea sold as steroids. ****ing rediculous

tippytoes · 04-21-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Interlocutor

despite the roidlike names, those are not steroids at all. the only roids in roidstore are hemorrhoids. that site is a scam, to leech of people like you and your friend. their products are absolutely worthless, and any legal PH will provide much better results. any results are placebo. just do a search with google.

if you find anything there that is more than underdosed creatine, DHEA, androsterone, or 19nor, you're lucky. but usually it will be vitamins, caffeine, or vanadyl sulfate or somesuch crap. you are directed to the steroid sucbsection, so you'll get flamed to hell for not even trying google once before posting a question concerning one of the most obvious scams on the web.

stay far far away from that type of ****. total waste of money.

if you want legal roids, use legal roids:

SD clones
PP clones
H-50 clones
Epi clones
etc.

all of those are actual, real, methylated oral steroids. not that fake crap. and you can find them right here, on bb.com.

THE INTERLOCUTOR

Sorry, what is a clone and how is that not illegal? I'm really curious.

ironhead184 · 04-21-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tippytoes

Sorry, what is a clone and how is that not illegal? I'm really curious.

Actual steroids are based off of sterols which is what is illegal. These clones technically are steroids because they're based off of proegestins. It's a loop hole that companies found. These progestin based "steroid" are very powerful like actual gear, but are VERY hepatoxic (can cause jaundice) and will shut your natural testosterone down.
People who take stuff like that before 21 can have the potential of PERMANTLY damagine their endocrine system. This can include having low testosterone for life. This is because the endocrine system at that age still hasn't fully developped. That means you'll have a horrible sex life bc with low testosterone comes soft erections which is what people experience with test shutdown.
Don't forget gyno which is breast growth that occurs because of aromatisation or post-cycle estrogen rebound. You would need surgury to remove that stuff. There have been many cases of gyno from the use of methylated orals.
I have never tried methylated orals or real steroids because of reasons like this and I never will. I have read enough cycles of that stuff in the supplement log section that I know alot about that stuff.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend taking that stuff, especially if you don't know what a PCT is.

tippytoes · 04-21-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ironhead184

Actual steroids are based off of sterols which is what is illegal. These clones technically are steroids because they're based off of proegestins. It's a loop hole that companies found. These progestin based "steroid" are very powerful like actual gear, but are VERY hepatoxic (can cause jaundice) and will shut your natural testosterone down.
People who take stuff like that before 21 can have the potential of PERMANTLY damagine their endocrine system. This can include having low testosterone for life. This is because the endocrine system at that age still hasn't fully developped. That means you'll have a horrible sex life bc with low testosterone comes soft erections which is what people experience with test shutdown.
Don't forget gyno which is breast growth that occurs because of aromatisation or post-cycle estrogen rebound. You would need surgury to remove that stuff. There have been many cases of gyno from the use of methylated orals.
I have never tried methylated orals or real steroids because of reasons like this and I never will. I have read enough cycles of that stuff in the supplement log section that I know alot about that stuff.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend taking that stuff, especially if you don't know what a PCT is.

obviously i won't take it... but it is very interesting that the government would allow something like this to be sold...

ironhead184 · 04-21-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tippytoes

obviously i won't take it... but it is very interesting that the government would allow something like this to be sold...

Well, most of the companies like AX (famous for superdrol, phera-plex, prostanozol, and ergomax lmg) and gaspari (halodrol-50 and orastan-e) have had to stop production of that stuff. It's production has been banned but it's not illegal to possess that stuff as far as I know. These companies stock have been sold out so now there are those "clones" which have the same active ingredient but not the name and who knows what other crap is in them, not to mention who knows if they are pure or well produced.

v4lu3s · 04-21-2007, 06:15 PM

its called the letter of the law. teh laws that "ban" or regulate "steroids" specifically name the drugs being controlled. one small change to the structure and you get a new drug, which is NOT named by the government as being banned.
Basically the ban is based on nomenclature, not behavior. That is how they manage to have a few legal steroids out there, over time though the government catches on and they will try and pass new laws naming the new drugs, in the meantime the drug dealers...whoops I mean "supplement" companies will dig up old drugs that are forgotten or try and alter a banned one to get around the new laws.

Ephedra · 04-21-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb_iron

hello everyone

one of my training partners ask my opinion about some products that we can find on roidstore.com. He wants to get these product because he has difficulty taking mass.I went to see these products to make me an opinion. I believe that these products can help but it will never replace the illegal steroids. I am not a professional, I would like to have your opinion to.

thank you to all

Get more educated before roids my good sir.

Kraftydog · 04-21-2007, 08:18 PM

there are companies that name there steroid products after steroids and these products like superdrol are "real" steroids. Toxic oral steroids, but steroids none the less.

the roidstore, on the other hand, is a complete scam that tricks newbies and the less wary into buying low quality supplements that appear to be steroids. Their website is very confusing, intentionally. Anyone affiliated with it is complete scum.