SuperPlexx II v.s. Havoc....any suggestions

SoonerPower · 01-21-2008, 09:04 PM

So ive really narrowed it down to SuperPlexx II or havoc i already have my liver support, pct, mutivitamin, weightgainer ex... so if it came down to it which would be best.....or if u know of another product you would reccomned i would appreciate that too....

Endorush Eric · 01-21-2008, 09:48 PM

If its your first cycle go with Havoc 10/20/30/30 cycle. The Super Flexx is Superdrol/Pheraplex combo, pretty potent for a first cycle in my opinion.

acalams · 01-23-2008, 02:44 PM

superPlexx= superdrol + halodrol. not superFlexx

acalams · 01-23-2008, 02:46 PM

Also...

IMO, havoc, though, is a great starter. Superplexx is a little more hardcore, ha. You'll get good gains on havoc. I stacked epistane (havoc) with 11-oxo and got really good results.

bigtiger66 · 05-01-2008, 05:36 PM

I agree with the previous reply, if it is your first cycle, do the HAVOC first as it is much less potent. HAVOC is really EPISTANE which is a similar compound to SUPERDROL. The SUPERPLEXX II is a combination of 30mg of the original HALODROL, 20mg of the original SUPERDROL, 10mg of the original phermone PHERA-PLEX, 100mg of 6-OXO, and a blend of DHB (anabolic amplifier), cissus (for joint soreness), waximaze (for transport), and a few other things to help reduce the negative side effects. Start with 1 capsule a day for 30 days only! This stuff is the real deal! If you have used this before or you are over 225lbs and an advanced lifter, then 2 capsules a day maximum. MUST take liver support, vitamin C (antioxidant), red yeast rice (lower cholesterol), CoQ10 (heart functions), saw palmetto (prostate), a good post cycle therapy (Gaspari Novedex XT or similar), and drink plenty of water (at least a gallon per day). If gynocomastia onsets, then use PCT early or use Clomid. Hope this helps answer any questions.

-The ADAMAL-

RWoods · 05-01-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtiger66

I agree with the previous reply, if it is your first cycle, do the HAVOC first as it is much less potent. HAVOC is really EPISTANE which is a similar compound to SUPERDROL. The SUPERPLEXX II is a combination of 30mg of the original HALODROL, 20mg of the original SUPERDROL, 10mg of the original phermone PHERA-PLEX, 100mg of 6-OXO, and a blend of DHB (anabolic amplifier), cissus (for joint soreness), waximaze (for transport), and a few other things to help reduce the negative side effects. Start with 1 capsule a day for 30 days only! This stuff is the real deal! If you have used this before or you are over 225lbs and an advanced lifter, then 2 capsules a day maximum. MUST take liver support, vitamin C (antioxidant), red yeast rice (lower cholesterol), CoQ10 (heart functions), saw palmetto (prostate), a good post cycle therapy (Gaspari Novedex XT or similar), and drink plenty of water (at least a gallon per day). If gynocomastia onsets, then use PCT early or use Clomid. Hope this helps answer any questions.

-The ADAMAL-

MrOneEyedBoh · 05-01-2008, 05:55 PM

strong unaware..

bigdofba · 05-01-2008, 05:55 PM

I didn't really feel much from Epistane. I would try superplexx.

spshond · 05-01-2008, 06:14 PM

Here is my little reply: Iam currently on HDrol and Havoc - 2 very mild D.S. I felt very weird this morning. I tool one week on just 75mg of Hdrol and now second week 75mg Hdrol and 30mg of Havoc. Wow. The pumps I got n the gym this morning were ridiculous, I thought my triceps were going to pop out of my arms. These 2 stack nicely, no regrets here. I do have proper PCT for those worried about my 2 methylated mixtures.

RWoods · 05-01-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spshond

Here is my little reply: Iam currently on HDrol and Havoc - 2 very mild D.S. I felt very weird this morning. I tool one week on just 75mg of Hdrol and now second week 75mg Hdrol and 30mg of Havoc. Wow. The pumps I got n the gym this morning were ridiculous, I thought my triceps were going to pop out of my arms. These 2 stack nicely, no regrets here. I do have proper PCT for those worried about my 2 methylated mixtures.

PCT is not for the liver, i hope your taking plenty of supports NOW

ZDub212 · 05-01-2008, 06:23 PM

These are two very different products...how did you narrow it down to those?

I could understand something like...Epistane OR Havoc...Storm or Green Mag...but these two?

Problem · 05-01-2008, 06:25 PM

More Gains = superplexx
More sides = superplexx

bryan101b · 08-17-2008, 11:00 PM

I'd go with the superplex first for maximal first time gains. just do your research and get everything in order first, that way you know what your doing. you can plan to stack the havoc with something else later on. I'm on decabolen, 4-andro-diol, and dhb right now and love the gains from it and the decabolen only has 25mg of halodrol clone, an 10 of phera/sd clone in it. I wish I had found superflexx 2 first. I dont want to do another hd/pp/sd stack for awhile, but this one will def be on the list. next Im thinking of staking tren/fina/epistane see how that works out. superflexx 2. more gains, more sides yes, but with the right research, you can prevent those sides. that is if your genetically prone to them. go for the sf2

M.WORTH HOT BOY · 07-28-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bryan101b

I'd go with the superplex first for maximal first time gains. just do your research and get everything in order first, that way you know what your doing. you can plan to stack the havoc with something else later on. I'm on decabolen, 4-andro-diol, and dhb right now and love the gains from it and the decabolen only has 25mg of halodrol clone, an 10 of phera/sd clone in it. I wish I had found superflexx 2 first. I dont want to do another hd/pp/sd stack for awhile, but this one will def be on the list. next Im thinking of staking tren/fina/epistane see how that works out. superflexx 2. more gains, more sides yes, but with the right research, you can prevent those sides. that is if your genetically prone to them. go for the sf2

How where gains with decabolen?

cocoleveo7686 · 07-28-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bryan101b

I'd go with the superplex first for maximal first time gains. just do your research and get everything in order first, that way you know what your doing. you can plan to stack the havoc with something else later on. I'm on decabolen, 4-andro-diol, and dhb right now and love the gains from it and the decabolen only has 25mg of halodrol clone, an 10 of phera/sd clone in it. I wish I had found superflexx 2 first. I dont want to do another hd/pp/sd stack for awhile, but this one will def be on the list. next Im thinking of staking tren/fina/epistane see how that works out. superflexx 2. more gains, more sides yes, but with the right research, you can prevent those sides. that is if your genetically prone to them. go for the sf2

I wouldnt go with that for a first time. Reason being that next time you try and take something not as strong (Havoc) you may not get good gains.

SoonerPower · 08-26-2009, 11:51 PM

been awhile since i first checked on my original post but thanks guys for the advise.. i actually ended up goin with tri-bolic it is very pontent (use a good pct,liver protectant with it) I had some amazing results from... probably the best from any cycle ive put together and im acutally about to start again.... i would deff recommend this to anyone old enough lookkin for some great gains

twinstc · 10-24-2009, 10:45 PM

I did a SuperPlexx cycle I also did a fat burner with it called Diablos Hyperburn 6.0. Some thing worked good got body fat down to 4%.

bryan101b · 10-28-2009, 10:01 AM

i dont think superplexx has what it sais in it, or atleast not at the dosages. this is just from user logs i've read about it.

decabolen is good stuff. i used the old version, but im sure sd/hd is also a good combo from logs i've read.

i'll probably use either decabolen as a test 350 kick start, or if i cant find it, then purchase each one (sd/pp/hd) seperate.

stacking this combo with a 10-12week cycle of test, kick starting it with a 3 week cycle of sd/hd/pp is the way to go for amazing gains. followed up the last 4 weeks with a hardner of some kind. (winny comes to mind)

bryan101b · 10-28-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bryan101b

I'd go with the superplex first for maximal first time gains.
just do your research and get everything in order first, that way you know what your doing.
you can plan to stack the havoc with something else later on.
next Im thinking of staking tren/fina/epistane see how that works out. superflexx 2.
more gains, more sides yes, but with the right research, you can prevent those sides. that is if your genetically prone to them. go for the sf2

i actually feel the need to retract this statement.
I wouldn't recomend any stacked methyl compound for a first time cycle. now that im more knowledgable, I would recomend either "the one" for a first time, or hd by itself.

these are the two mildest compounds i've found out there. the one is not for an experienced user. it suks. but is good for a first timer.

epi is okay, i need alot for it to work, and so i dont like it, but good for 10mg nightly to help control est on a cycle of aromatizing steroids.

I have stacked tren (dienolone precursor) and epi. im extremely prone to gyno from the tren. my body hates it. sad, i was starting to harden up nicely on it too.

and I still agree with big c. more gains, more sides, thats the way it is. you cant have one without the other. tough tittie.
the right research, and time put into a well thought out, safely planned cycle will be the difference between you ending the cycle, having bitch tits, and loosing most of your gains, (then turning up on "the early show with kate hudson, saying you got tricked into buying a product that secretly containe steroids. bullsh*t.)
Or, feeling solid at the end of your cycle, with a nicely planned pct that will feel safe using, and be able to save all your gains.
good luck to all who decide to venture into the dangerous world of steroids.

*steroids and all forms of anabolics are meant for healthy adult males with no pre existing medical conditions, none, if you are unsure of your health status, or may have a pre existing medical condition, dont use steroids. and if your unsure if your healthy, go see your doctor.