Jeff's 30 Day Myogenix Spawn Log

[drj721]

I've been wondering that myself. I am always hungry and with my schedule it is difficult to keep up with the clean caleries I need. If I do not eat enough calories and drink enough water it is an automatic headache. I have gotten 2-3 headaches and they come around 4pm on the day I have not eaten or drank enough.

So what was your girlfriends response? I broached the subject with my wife. You know, easing into it by talking about supplements and then test boosters and how they help sex drive and energy. Then I moved into herbal and non-traditional supplementation research on anabolics and that's when I lost her...

As you can see, I have a way with women...

[Mantis66]

Final Weight Increase = +15 lbs lean muscle in 30 days

Benefits:

Incredible increases in strength and stamina, increased size/vascularity, all while decreasing body fat. Most strength gains came quite fast (within first 2 weeks) then slowed somewhat (although I still was hitting PRs on my last day). Recovery times were also shortened.

Side Effects:

Nearly all of my side effects occurred within the first two weeks, and then disappeared almost completely. During the first few days I experienced some insomnia, but never after that. The worst side effects (at least initially) were dry joints and some moodiness; again, these symptoms improved throughout the cycle. After about 3 weeks, I developed shin and lower back pumps that WORSENED until the end of the cycle. These pumps were pretty bad and definitely interfered with my workouts. Libido also decreased throughout the cycle (and it is still actually pretty dead), but everything worked fine when it needed to. Other than some VERY mild acne, other sides were negligible.

What I would have done differently:

TAURINE! I kept putting off buying some, since I didn't start getting bad cramps/pumps until the end. I toughed it out, but these pumps are the real deal. They practically eliminated my ability to do any real cardio on the last few days. In fact, even now (several days after stopping Spawn) the lower back pumps can still be annoying.

Suggestions:

Eat lots of good carbs! Of course I ate lots of protein, but I attribute much of my gains to my increased intake of whole grain pasta and cereals. I feel this is essential to getting the most out of a compound like this. Also, if you are like me, YOU MAY HAVE A SEVERELY DECREASED LIBIDO by the end of the cycle. Keep this in mind before starting!

In Closing:

This was my first cycle, and it was a complete success (assuming PCT goes well). As mentioned above, I had very minor side effects, especially when compared with the great gains I got. My mood was actually great through most of the cycle, particularly toward the end. My shirts are tighter, I get more looks from the ladies, and nearly everyone who knows me comments on how large I look.

I had hit a major plateau for quite some time, and at 33 years old, I had almost accepted my fate. While I was in great shape, I just didn't have the mass I wanted. Now that I have busted through this plateau, I plan to work very hard to keep my gains.

It looks like Spawn will be a victim of the impending ban by the DEA (due to the Tren) so others may not get a chance to experience this. While this stuff is not for everyone, I highly recommend it for those who have already maximized their gains from diet/training/technique, and have done LOTS of research and preparation.

Thanks for those who followed along.

[drj721]

Nice Log!

[DaHiLLezt69]

guys, what can i take to stop the gyno side effects and production of DHT? i've read things like novladex and milk thistle... just wondering how a person who weighs 135 lbs at 23 would have to take in order to prevent gyno. its my biggest fear. There are so many suggestions out there, i was just wondering which is the best alternative while on the "supplement" to prevent that ONE side effect in particular. Thanks!

[drj721]

Originally Posted by DaHiLLezt69

guys, what can i take to stop the gyno side effects and production of DHT? i've read things like novladex and milk thistle... just wondering how a person who weighs 135 lbs at 23 would have to take in order to prevent gyno. its my biggest fear. There are so many suggestions out there, i was just wondering which is the best alternative while on the "supplement" to prevent that ONE side effect in particular. Thanks!

You shouldn't have to worry about it if you are using Spawn, since it is progestin based. This is one of the reasons I used spawn for my last cycle. When you begin PCT you will need to take something that will block estrogen since it will spike when your natural test begins to rise to normal levels. Nolvadex will do it and provide a boost in testosterone to get you natural test going. There are also other OTC PCT supplements and test boosters that have estro blockers in them. Do some research and you will find several products that will help in this area.

[builder2345]

Did u end up keeping most of your gains? Your log was very helpful. I am glad to see you get results like those.

[smithc38]

a buddy of mine who is seventeen years old has been using the steroid called spawn which consists of 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione and 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol. 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17. For the first 2 days of his cycle he was taking 2 capsules which is below the maximum of three. after the second day he started experiencing bad pain in his testicles and he immidiantly stopped. 2 days after quiting he is still having pain. Will this pain go away? or is it something very serious. he only did the steroid for 2 days and took a total of 4 capsules so wouldnt this be something that will just go away if he stays off this stuff?

[drj721]

Originally Posted by smithc38

a buddy of mine who is seventeen years old has been using the steroid called spawn which consists of 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione and 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol. 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17. For the first 2 days of his cycle he was taking 2 capsules which is below the maximum of three. after the second day he started experiencing bad pain in his testicles and he immidiantly stopped. 2 days after quiting he is still having pain. Will this pain go away? or is it something very serious. he only did the steroid for 2 days and took a total of 4 capsules so wouldnt this be something that will just go away if he stays off this stuff?

I would think that this isn't due to the Spawn since he experience the pain after only 4 pills. If the pain doesn't go away within the next 24-48 hours he needs to consult a Urologist quickly.

[Mantis66]

Originally Posted by builder2345

Did u end up keeping most of your gains? Your log was very helpful. I am glad to see you get results like those.

Yep. Kept all but about 2 pounds! Strength went down just a bit, though.

[builder2345]

Congrats on a good cycle. How much bodyfat do u think you dropped. I am either about to start a spawn cycle or an h-drol cycle and haven't decided which one yet. I want to shed some bodyfat and increase my strength, and it sounds like spawn might be the way to go. Does anyone have an opinion on which one will work better for my goals.

[MRBRANDON]

Originally Posted by jdownesbaird

Spawn is taken three times a day every day (roughly every 8 hours). If you did run the same cycle I am, you would wait at least two months (from the day you finish PCT) to start another one. Time on cycle + PCT = Time off cycle.

Again, though, take your time researching to make sure this is the right thing for you. It's ultimately your decision, but at 21, your endocrine system is still maturing. This is powerful stuff, and you don't want to ruin your natural testosterone producing abilities for the rest of your life. If you decide you are ready, do some more research!

Best of luck either way, man.

I am curious about the age post you replyed to, I am turning 23 august 1st you say this could damage my development?

[dowork_]

I would like to comment on the Spawn By Myogenix. First I like to say is WoW!
Never have I received results like I have with spawn. I started out weighing 190 lbs. with really not much strength behind the weights. At the end of the first week taking Animal Pak vitamins & 1 spawn pill every 4 hours (2x), my strength had increased by about 5 lbs. and gained a good 3 to 5 lbs.! I could see and feel the diff. I was pretty moody and very hungry! to cut this short. Im now on my 3rd week at 215 lbs. & the biggest I have been and the strongest(spawn 3x a day 4 hr. apart). For some reason my incline is way stronger then my bench press. I can max out at 215 @ incline and I max 190 on bench(for now). (wtf) Anyways this is just my 3rd week. I havn't worked out in about 2 years, So this is glorious!!: ) By the way EAT, EAT, EAT! No Eat No Gains. If you wanted to know I do all bar one week (pyramid) and the dumb bell near max 4 sets of 6-8 the next week. I take the weekends off and EAT : ) Good cals not the tempting Texas State Fair cals. Damn! Oh, one more thing. I did at one point stack Gaspari Super Pump250 for 3 days and Holy S#@$ my strength was sick! The pump was there but my heart was about to stop! I didn't want to leave the gym and I couldn't sleep till late. If your not sensitive to stimulants, go for it. Cause I am. I will submit pics soon.

[MarineDoc]

I just started my Spawn cycle, only on my 2nd day. Before I started I was taking creatine and NO2 and I'm wondering if I should continue or wait until my cycle is over to start using it again. If Spawn works the way it should then it seems like the creatine and NO2 would be overkill. Any thoughts?

[Rob718]

Hey congrats on succesful spawn cycle....iwas wondering if u could give me some advice on my PCT for spawn...ijuss came off spawn yesterday...and immediately started taking a liver support, an estrogen blocker, and NOVEDEX XT(gaspari nutrition)...ihave gained 10lbs on spawn so iguess you could say I had a succesful cycle...but iam more worried about the PCT...do u think my PCT products are sufficient or am I doing it all wrong????
....thanks

[MarineDoc]

Rob, you should have been taking a liver support during your cycle instead of waiting until PCT. I've got just over a week left before I start my PCT and I plan on using Reversitol from iForce. You might look into a natty test booster and keep up the liver support after your PCT, better late then never I guess.

[Rob718]

Originally Posted by MarineDoc

Rob, you should have been taking a liver support during your cycle instead of waiting until PCT. I've got just over a week left before I start my PCT and I plan on using Reversitol from iForce. You might look into a natty test booster and keep up the liver support after your PCT, better late then never I guess.

Yea your right ishuld have been taking the liver support way before.....but do u think I shuld be oky with the stuff igot for now to normalize my body ??

[MarineDoc]

I'm actually new to the whole PH thing but I know what I've read. Novedex is good because it's an anti-aromatase. That means it will stop the conversion of estrogen(if you didn't know). So having an anti-aromatase and an estrogen blocker is good. From what I hear Nolva is a good estrogen blocker but I don't believe Spawn requires anything that strong. Without knowing what estrogen blocker you have it is hard to say if you have everything you need. Like I said, I would get a natural test booster to go with it just to help kick start your system again. That's actually one thing that I still need to pick up. Best of luck with your PCT, hope everything turns out for the best.

[Rob718]

Originally Posted by MarineDoc

I'm actually new to the whole PH thing but I know what I've read. Novedex is good because it's an anti-aromatase. That means it will stop the conversion of estrogen(if you didn't know). So having an anti-aromatase and an estrogen blocker is good. From what I hear Nolva is a good estrogen blocker but I don't believe Spawn requires anything that strong. Without knowing what estrogen blocker you have it is hard to say if you have everything you need. Like I said, I would get a natural test booster to go with it just to help kick start your system again. That's actually one thing that I still need to pick up. Best of luck with your PCT, hope everything turns out for the best.

The estrogen blocker I bought is called ESTROGENEX...this was also my first PH cycle done...iwas tripping out with all the gynocomastia effects I've heard of, which is why iask a lot of things...but iguess I shuld be fine thou with my products...thanks for the advice bro.

[zoobear68]

Originally Posted by Mantis66

Oh yeah, I am eating much more, with very little fat gain. I have been devouring massive amounts of carbs (whole grain pasta/cereal/oats) as well as protein, of course.

I'm wondering: will I need to eat this much to maintain my gains after my cycle?

wondering did yo eat with yor dose of spawn wen i take by itsef i get head ache can eating demen effects

[D Martin]

I took Spawn and experienced similar results and side effects as you, but my libido and sleep did not return to normal for 8 weeks. At the end of my cycle, my test level was 60 and my prolactin level was 36. These levels returned to normal in 12 weeks. So, it completely shut my HPTA down. I gained 17 lbs on it and kept 14. Actually thinking about starting again, but doing a 3 week cycle this time. My question. How do you feel/look now?

Originally Posted by Mantis66

Final Weight Increase = +15 lbs lean muscle in 30 days

Benefits:

Incredible increases in strength and stamina, increased size/vascularity, all while decreasing body fat. Most strength gains came quite fast (within first 2 weeks) then slowed somewhat (although I still was hitting PRs on my last day). Recovery times were also shortened.

Side Effects:

Nearly all of my side effects occurred within the first two weeks, and then disappeared almost completely. During the first few days I experienced some insomnia, but never after that. The worst side effects (at least initially) were dry joints and some moodiness; again, these symptoms improved throughout the cycle. After about 3 weeks, I developed shin and lower back pumps that WORSENED until the end of the cycle. These pumps were pretty bad and definitely interfered with my workouts. Libido also decreased throughout the cycle (and it is still actually pretty dead), but everything worked fine when it needed to. Other than some VERY mild acne, other sides were negligible.

What I would have done differently:

TAURINE! I kept putting off buying some, since I didn't start getting bad cramps/pumps until the end. I toughed it out, but these pumps are the real deal. They practically eliminated my ability to do any real cardio on the last few days. In fact, even now (several days after stopping Spawn) the lower back pumps can still be annoying.

Suggestions:

Eat lots of good carbs! Of course I ate lots of protein, but I attribute much of my gains to my increased intake of whole grain pasta and cereals. I feel this is essential to getting the most out of a compound like this. Also, if you are like me, YOU MAY HAVE A SEVERELY DECREASED LIBIDO by the end of the cycle. Keep this in mind before starting!

In Closing:

This was my first cycle, and it was a complete success (assuming PCT goes well). As mentioned above, I had very minor side effects, especially when compared with the great gains I got. My mood was actually great through most of the cycle, particularly toward the end. My shirts are tighter, I get more looks from the ladies, and nearly everyone who knows me comments on how large I look.

I had hit a major plateau for quite some time, and at 33 years old, I had almost accepted my fate. While I was in great shape, I just didn't have the mass I wanted. Now that I have busted through this plateau, I plan to work very hard to keep my gains.

It looks like Spawn will be a victim of the impending ban by the DEA (due to the Tren) so others may not get a chance to experience this. While this stuff is not for everyone, I highly recommend it for those who have already maximized their gains from diet/training/technique, and have done LOTS of research and preparation.

Thanks for those who followed along.

[jparkson]

i notice simalar gains and progress. I was shocked how quikly it seemed to take effect. i how evernotice pretty bad labito problems as far as not ever in the mood. what do u plan on taking when u cycle off,Estro blockers......

Originally Posted by Mantis66

I am currently on day 10 of a 30 day Spawn cycle. Since there is very little documented information on this product from actual users, I decided to post my experiences so far.

Starting Weight: 183 lbs (6 feet tall)

Cycle:

Myogenix Spawn 3 capsules per day (Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione 30mg and 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol 8mg PER CAPSULE)
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Animal Flex
Animal Pak
Fish Oil
ON 100% Whey Protein

Post Cycle:

Nolva
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support
Gaspari Nutrition Sizeon (Love this stuff)
Gaspari Nutrition SuperPump 250
Controlled Labs Purple Wraath
Animal Flex/Pak
Fish Oil
ON 100% Whey
Designer Supplements Lean Xtreme (starting 2 weeks into post cycle)


I have been stuck at 180 to 185 lbs for the last year, with very minimal increases in strength/size in spite of changes in diet/supplements/form/training. I started Spawn in hopes of busting this plateau.

My diet is extremely clean, and I have increased my carb/protein/calorie intake significantly (appetite is through the roof so far!).

My training schedule/routine will be unchanged, with the exception of focusing more on heavier weights/fewer reps (5x5).

Lifting Schedule (nearly impossible to alter due to work):

Saturday: Chest
Sunday: Rest
Monday: Back
Tuesday: Abs/legs
Wednesday: Arms/shoulders
Thursay: Rest
Friday: Rest

Typically I have a strong emphasis on cardio (usually jog 4 miles 3 times per week, and/or take 2 kickboxing or boot camp classes). However, due to a recently pulled groin muscle and a desire to maximize the addition of muscle mass, cardio will be kept at a minimum for now. Furthermore, I will focus mostly on abs during leg/abs day (due to the injury) for the first couple of weeks.

After one week on cycle, I could see a noticable improvement in muscle hardness/tone and size. I have always had somewhat defined abdominals, but they seemed more pronounced. I have very little body fat, but I swear that fat/fluid in abdominal area (and the rest of my body, really) was reduced. However, the drying effect (in spite of increased water intake) appears to have effected my joints significantly (particularly my knees and ankles). I am 33 years old, so my joints aren't as lubed as they used to be, but there has been a clear degradation since starting Spawn. I was only able to comfortably run one mile (albeit at a pretty fast pace) before stopping, and sometimes I experience a dull ache in my legs even when at rest.

However, day 8 was my second chest workout on cycle, and it was literally the best lift I have ever had in my life. Stamina and strength were vastly improved, as was recovery.

Today was day 10 (back workout) and I expected to still be extremely sore from my chest work. Surprisingly, I only had some mild soreness/tightness that was easily alleviated with stretching, in spite of the fact that just 2 days prior I put up heavier weights than ever before in my life. Just 2 weeks ago I was much more sore after lifting lighter weights, so clearly something is working here.

Pumps during the workout were amazing, but not annoying. I am noticably bigger, and vasculature in my arms is much more pronounced.

Knee and ankle joints feel pretty good today.

I weighed myself after my back workout today, and was shocked to find that I'm 191 lbs. 8 lbs in 10 days? Is this possible? Some of it may be fat from the increased caloric intake, but I certainly don't see any extra fat on my body! Also, I know I have less fluid retention, making my weight gain that much more significant.

Mood/aggression seem to be at baseline. I have noticed some mild lethargy from time to time, but this could be due to the increased intensity of my workouts. Libido has been slightly diminished, but might be due to other factors (fatigue from workouts, job, etc.). I will keep an eye on this closely.

Overall, I am extremely excited with my progress (both visible and performance wise). My only concern is for my joints, but today has been good so far.

I will update as often as possible with any significant developments.

Jeff

[E46Hotness]

I am VERY interested in this Spawn as well....had a buddy of mine at work praise this stuff up and down to for the last month saying it's amazing!! As others have asked....what's a good liver recovery product to take while taking Spawn...and will Novadex XT work ok as a PCT?

-Bill

[MarineDoc]

Originally Posted by E46Hotness

I am VERY interested in this Spawn as well....had a buddy of mine at work praise this stuff up and down to for the last month saying it's amazing!! As others have asked....what's a good liver recovery product to take while taking Spawn...and will Novadex XT work ok as a PCT?

-Bill

Everybody says you should take Nolva for PCT (not Novadex Xt) but I got away with taking Reversitol and Zeus. Bio Forge looks like a great test booster/PCT additive but I haven't had any experience with it yet, mine is still in the mail. Search the forums for Bio Forge and you'll see some pretty good results, with blood work to prove it. Besides, if you look up the ingredients in it and what it does for your body I'm sure you'll want to get some. Only problem is that bb.com can't keep it in stock, it's always selling out. On a personal note, I'm planning Reversitol and Bio Forge for my PCT after my Dymethazine cycle.

For liver support you could go with Cycle Support but I suggest getting two of them. It says 60 servings but I ran out with about a week left of my cycle and it taste horrible but it works. If you want to go the easy route, get some Liver Fix from Myogenix. 4 pills in the A.M. and 4 pills in the P.M. and you should be good for 30 days. Just be sure to get 2 bottles, it's still cheaper then 1 tub of Cycle Support.

[Xetenor]

Nice log. Glad I came across it to read about your experience.

I started my spawn cycle a week ago and man I am starting to feel its effects on me. It caused me to get moody these past 2-3 days and my sex drive has been pretty low sofar. When I started taking it, my aggression level went up and I became more impatient. Also I noticed the joints getting more dry too as you described but it seems to get less. I defnitely noticed it the most when squatting heavy.

I am taking nature's science milk thistle for liver support and 2 bottles of 6-oxo are waiting for PCT after a month. I've been taking 2 pills per day but starting today I am thinking of taking 3 pills a day to help speed up my progress. I can't wait to hit the weights today. National chest destruction day today. Time to tear it up!!!

[Lifthard22]

Originally Posted by Mantis66

Man, I know exactly what you mean. I have felt uncomfortable telling people that my gains are in large part due to a pill I take 3 times a day. What most people don't understand is that you still have to work your ass off in the gym to get results. That said, it still feels a little like cheating, and the only person I have told is my girlfriend. When people at work ask about my increased size, I just tell them I am eating more and lifting higher weight/low reps lately to increase my size (all true), but I feel a little guilty for some reason. I am not really even that big, actually, but I still feel like everyone thinks I'm on steroids because of the guilt!

hey man, im 17 and some of the guys from my school have taken spawn and gotten great results, ive always been healthy and bought this stuff in the package at sbmuscle.com,(comes with spawn, cycle support and hardcore test) im just wondering if this will **** me up or what? and if the 3 of these products along with milk thistle will be good for a full cycle and pct? thanks

[skinny ee]

Nice Log.