Novedex XT

[AL4TR]

Is this product worth taking?

What should I expect to get from taking this product?

Is there a better product besides Novedex XT to take?

Thank you

[AL4TR]

Would really like some information on this...thanks

[willy008]

I tryed this out once it did nothing for me just a waste of money
but other's have posted that it worked for them try doing a search

[GEORDIE.NI]

It gave me a real strength boost and also made my muscle real hard and dry looking. i think its a really good product especially on a cut, its not a real mass builder tho.

[AL4TR]

Guess it is just junk

[JV@Gaspari]

Yea it sucks! We only spent six figures on a study completed at Baylor University and had it published in a medical journal because we have nothing better to do with the company's money. Come on guys, do your homework.

Results of the Independent Clinical Trial Conducted at Baylor University
and published in the 2007 International Journal of Sports Nutrition
and Exercise Metabolism:

- Increased Natural (Free) Testosterone an Average of 600%
- Up to a 600% Increase in Testosterone to Estrogen Ratio
- Returns to Baseline Within 3 Weeks of Stopping Novedex XT
- Rock Solid Safety Data


Willoughby D. S., & Wilborn C. Eight weeks of aromatase inhibition using the nutritional supplement Novedex XT: Effects on serum steroid hormones, body composition, and clinical safety markers in young, eugonadal males. International Journal of Sports Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 2007, 17, 92-108 ? 2007 Human Kinetics, Inc.

[ironLifeBG]

i used it for PCT in conjunction with a bunch of other stuff and i can still fire one off.

the stuff works but its not magic.

combined with lots of exercise, lots of rest, no alcohol and a good diet it will definitely help not hinder!

[Geneticssuck]

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Yea it sucks! We only spent six figures on a study completed at Baylor University and had it published in a medical journal because we have nothing better to do with the company's money. Come on guys, do your homework.

Results of the Independent Clinical Trial Conducted at Baylor University
and published in the 2007 International Journal of Sports Nutrition
and Exercise Metabolism:

- Increased Natural (Free) Testosterone an Average of 600%
- Up to a 600% Increase in Testosterone to Estrogen Ratio
- Returns to Baseline Within 3 Weeks of Stopping Novedex XT
- Rock Solid Safety Data


Willoughby D. S., & Wilborn C. Eight weeks of aromatase inhibition using the nutritional supplement Novedex XT: Effects on serum steroid hormones, body composition, and clinical safety markers in young, eugonadal males. International Journal of Sports Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 2007, 17, 92-108 ? 2007 Human Kinetics, Inc.

You forgot , no increase in lean mass. Dangerous garbage.

[geeman]

Agree, did nothing for me either...better off with the basics and some creatine and multi.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by Geneticssuck

You forgot , no increase in lean mass. Dangerous garbage.

you serious?!?! how so? So boosting Test levels is useless/dangerous?

[JV@Gaspari]

Originally Posted by Geneticssuck

You forgot , no increase in lean mass. Dangerous garbage.

Dangerous garbage? Thats 95% of the prohormones on the market.

I will put the safety data learned in the study against ANY test booster on the market.

Novedex XT did not cause any significant changes in any Serum Clinical Chemistry Markers (including liver studies and cholesterol/HDL/LDL) or Urine Clinical Safety Markers or even in PSA
a significant clinical marker for prostate health! Even more importantly, all of the clinical parameters checked, including LH/FSH and GH, everything returned back to baseline (normal) levels within 21 days of discontinuation of Novedex XT showing that even using Novedex XT
for 60 days straight does not shut you down when you come off of it.

It is not toxic on the liver either. Know what you are talking about before you make stupid comments.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by JV@Gaspari

Dangerous garbage? Thats 95% of the prohormones on the market.

I will put the safety data learned in the study against ANY test booster on the market.

Novedex XT did not cause any significant changes in any Serum Clinical Chemistry Markers (including liver studies and cholesterol/HDL/LDL) or Urine Clinical Safety Markers or even in PSA
a significant clinical marker for prostate health! Even more importantly, all of the clinical parameters checked, including LH/FSH and GH, everything returned back to baseline (normal) levels within 21 days of discontinuation of Novedex XT showing that even using Novedex XT
for 60 days straight does not shut you down when you come off of it.

It is not toxic on the liver either. Know what you are talking about before you make stupid comments.

speaking of stupid comments...............

someone oughta kick the **** out of PATRICK ARNOLD before I do
12:11 PM Jun 27th from web

[jcosley]

Originally Posted by AL4TR

Is this product worth taking?

What should I expect to get from taking this product?

Is there a better product besides Novedex XT to take?

Thank you

I've gotten better results off: San Attitude, Activate Xtreme, Animal M Stak/Stak, 6 Oxo and Reversitol.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by jcosley

I've gotten better results off: San Attitude, Activate Xtreme, Animal M Stak/Stak, 6 Oxo and Reversitol.

read the date, very old. PA bumped it to get back at JV

[jcosley]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

read the date, very old. PA bumped it to get back at JV

Ahh...my bad.

[JolietKev]

All I got out of it was acne, joint soreness, low libido (of an 80 year old), and depression. I started feeling normal after about a week of being off of it. Would not recommend at all.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by JolietKev

All I got out of it was acne, joint soreness, low libido (of an 80 year old), and depression. I started feeling normal after about a week of being off of it. Would not recommend at all.

you prolly took too much at your weight, you would only need 1 cap or 1 cap every other day. I realize the bottle says 2-4 caps.

[brit-iron]

i just got a tub of novedex xt today,thought id give it a try.was just wanting to know if one cap per day would be enough for me,i'm curently 189 pounds,age 36.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by brit-iron

i just got a tub of novedex xt today,thought id give it a try.was just wanting to know if one cap per day would be enough for me,i'm curently 189 pounds,age 36.

yes, just 1 cap before bed.

[brit-iron]

thanks,repped.

[|ceman]

Interesting bump.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by |ceman

Interesting bump.

he apparently removed it from his twitter page. smart move. or twitter removed it. whatever

i have the original cached of course

[|ceman]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

he apparently removed it from his twitter page. smart move. or twitter removed it. whatever

i have the original cached of course

It's crazy off topic for this thread and honestly not even the proper venue to express your displeasure.

I'm not going to get into any of the past with different personalities or defend/attack past actions as it's not my place to do so. My comments above are limited to this thread.

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

speaking of stupid comments...............

someone oughta kick the **** out of PATRICK ARNOLD before I do
12:11 PM Jun 27th from web

Lmao

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

he apparently removed it from his twitter page. smart move. or twitter removed it. whatever

i have the original cached of course

smart move

Originally Posted by Geneticssuck

You forgot , no increase in lean mass. Dangerous garbage.

This is because although the raise in test levels- it competes at recepeptor sites ?

yes or no ?

Anyone have a clear answer why? Or why when you stack it with AX it works better?

[Mfusick]

Originally Posted by Mfusick

This is because although the raise in test levels- it competes at recepeptor sites ?

yes or no ?

Anyone have a clear answer why? Or why when you stack it with AX it works better?

Does 6OXO compete as much as Novedex XT? Which has higher free test levels?

Which stacks better with Activate Extreme?

[jeffrey1793]

Originally Posted by jcosley

I've gotten better results off: San Attitude, Activate Xtreme, Animal M Stak/Stak, 6 Oxo and Reversitol.

Have you been able to find 6oxo lately? I can't find it anymore. It seems to be replaced with 11 oxo.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by |ceman

It's crazy off topic for this thread and honestly not even the proper venue to express your displeasure.
.

ok point taken

can you suggest any venues? should i take it to supp.misc? i just wanted to make sure that your buddy saw it

[jeffrey1793]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

you prolly took too much at your weight, you would only need 1 cap or 1 cap every other day. I realize the bottle says 2-4 caps.

I bought some but haven't used it yet. I have been busy reading research information on it. I believe I read in Gaspari literature that 2 per day is normal dose, fully satisfactory to achieve desired goals and 4 is not necessary - only for extreme bodybuilders.

[|ceman]

Originally Posted by Geneticssuck

You forgot , no increase in lean mass. Dangerous garbage.

Originally Posted by Mfusick

This is because although the raise in test levels- it competes at recepeptor sites ?

yes or no ?

Anyone have a clear answer why? Or why when you stack it with AX it works better?

Here's a link to the full paper: http://store.gasparinutrition.com/fi...dexArticle.pdf

The main purpose of the study was to prove that Novedex raised testoserone levels, which it did. The subjects' diet and training was not controlled, therefore lean mass gains would be variable.

It is interesting to note that fat mass decreased with the Novedex group vs. the placebo group. This supports what we promote about Novedex being quite useful when cutting (as hormonal levels generally dip during caloric and fatty acid restriction).



And stacking it with Activate Xtreme is popular as AX works to boost testosterone via different pathways, so they stack well together and make a potent 1-2 test boosting punch.

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

ok point taken

can you suggest any venues? should i take it to supp.misc? i just wanted to make sure that your buddy saw it

If you need his email address I can PM it to you.

I don't know that taking it to the supp misc will do anything other than create more drama. I would hope that's not what you want.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by |ceman

If you need his email address I can PM it to you.

I don't know that taking it to the supp misc will do anything other than create more drama. I would hope that's not what you want.

what i want is an apology. can you imagine for one second what you guys would do if i had said such a thing in regards to JV or somone else at GN?

And JV posted his physical threat to me in a public forum so i figured it would not be inappropriate for me to bring it up in a public forum