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Old 07-19-2009, 05:15 PM   #2491
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How can I find the right rep range for exercises that are not listed, is there a easy way to work it out?

btw. what do you think about 21's?
Right for what?

And 21s are fail, ditch them.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:22 PM   #2492
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Right for what?

And 21s are fail, ditch them.
Right for building size
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:22 PM   #2493
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Right for building size
Do every rep range.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:27 PM   #2494
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Do every rep range.
Wait...im confused. I'm basically asking how do I know wether to do high rep or a low rep for a specific excersise?
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So is Rippetoes just not good for mass? Is so I probably won't do it since I don't really care about strength other than in my legs lol.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:29 PM   #2496
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Wait...im confused. I'm basically asking how do I know wether to do high rep or a low rep for a specific excersise?
You rotate it?


Where did you get the idea there's a specific rep range for each excersise?
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on leg day is it good to do power clean and squat on the same day??
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #2498
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So is Rippetoes just not good for mass? Is so I probably won't do it since I don't really care about strength other than in my legs lol.
I dislike rippetoes....alot, so many better routines out there.
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on leg day is it good to do power clean and squat on the same day??
Why would you do powercleans on leg day?

If you did I would do squats first.
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You rotate it?


Where did you get the idea there's a specific rep range for each excersise?
I just have a lack of knowlage about this stuff, thanks for the info
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I dislike rippetoes....alot, so many better routines out there.
Do you not recommend a strength routine at all? Are there no strength routines which help to gain mass?

I'm writing a customized split now I'll submit to you for approval.
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I dislike rippetoes....alot, so many better routines out there.


Why would you do powercleans on leg day?

If you did I would do squats first.

because i think im going to do legs and shoulders on the same day would that be alright?
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Day 1(Back, squats thrown in):
Deadlifts 2x5(with heaviest set)
Box squats(1x5 with heaviest set, 2-3 warmups)
Weighted pullups(4xfailure)
BB rows(3x7)

Day 2(Chest):
Bench(3x5, start immediately with heaviest set)
Weighted dips(3x5+)
Incline DB fly's(3x5+)
Heavy weighted abs set at the end, 3 sets to failure, stop when it burns bad

Day 3(Arms/Shoulders):
DB Shrugs(3 sets)
Lateral Raises(3 sets)
Skullcrushers(3 sets)
BB curls(3 sets)

Day 4(Legs):
Box squats(1x5 with heaviest set, 2-3 warmups)
Leg curls(3x5+)
Standing calf raises(3x15)

Box squats will be upped 5 lbs on day 1, 5 lbs on day 4 each week until I'm doing at least in the 100s. Once I get to start moving some OK weight, I'll go up 5 lbs a week. Deadlifts go up 5-10 lbs a week, but no ****ty form.
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because i think im going to do legs and shoulders on the same day would that be alright?
Yes thats fine.
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Day 1(Back, squats thrown in):
Deadlifts 2x5(with heaviest set)
Box squats(1x5 with heaviest set, 2-3 warmups)
Weighted pullups(4xfailure)
BB rows(3x7)

Day 2(Chest):
Bench(3x5, start immediately with heaviest set)
Weighted dips(3x5+)
Incline DB fly's(3x5+)
Heavy weighted abs set at the end, 3 sets to failure, stop when it burns bad

Day 3(Arms/Shoulders):
DB Shrugs(3 sets)
Lateral Raises(3 sets)
Skullcrushers(3 sets)
BB curls(3 sets)

Day 4(Legs):
Box squats(1x5 with heaviest set, 2-3 warmups)
Leg curls(3x5+)
Standing calf raises(3x15)

Box squats will be upped 5 lbs on day 1, 5 lbs on day 4 each week until I'm doing at least in the 100s. Once I get to start moving some OK weight, I'll go up 5 lbs a week. Deadlifts go up 5-10 lbs a week, but no ****ty form.
Much better, I think your shoulders are lacking volume, you better be eating atleast 3.5k.
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Yes thats fine.


Much better, I think your shoulders are lacking volume, you better be eating atleast 3.5k.
Thanks. I'm thinking I'll add in DB shoulder press. Sound good?

Thanks again.
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Thanks. I'm thinking I'll add in DB shoulder press. Sound good?

Thanks again.
Yeah, or straight bb upright rows.
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Yeah, or straight bb upright rows.
K thanks. Will rep on spread.
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It's fine.

rawr.

Lmao I don't have a clue, seems pretty retarded IMO.
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Because if you or me got a lower back injury, even a very slight one, all it would mean is taking 1-2 weeks off training. It could potentially cost a pro over ~$50,000. Better safe than sorry I guess. Even though belts aren't going to protect you from everything, I'm sure the pros at least feel safer wearer them. And they're not as stupid as some people seem to think, I'm sure any pro that wears a belt at all times has good reasons to do so.

EDIT: cool vid btw
Yeah true i knew a belt was to prevent injury i can understand wearing a belt on squats and deadlifts, but chest and arms i dont see how its nessecary?

Yeah vid was ultimate.

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To always protect their lower back, bodybuilding is their life and income you really think they'd take a risk with it in the gym?

A lot of them wear wrist and elbow straps when in reality they have relatively few issues with their joints but if anything did happen they'd kick themselves.

Belts have a lot of use anyone on everyday of a split anyway.

Chest - Always bench with a Belt it helps create the slight arch.
When you come off a Bench with heavy dumbbells and go to rack them, that's heavy **** and your back takes that strain.

Delts - Belt protects the back when doing various lateral movements and remember the pros swing, a lot.

Arms - Keeps your back tight when curling, and again we know how much the pro's swing on any bicep exercise.

Legs - Squatting

Back - Freeweight rows are going to but unnecessary strain on the lower back, for instance if you want to save your lower back for deadlifts why would you put unnecessary strain on it doing Bent Over and Dumbbell Rows, keeps it fresh.

So yeah, they got their excuses, plus it makes your waist tighter which alot of pros need.
True, thanx for the post.

Makes there waist tighter lol?

This is what this dude at my gym told me, he wears a belt everyday and i asked him whats the reason, he said it makes your waist tighter. Also im pretty sure from memory im sure i heard Ronnie Coleman mention this about wearing a belt in one of his videos.

Sounds like absolute bullsh't to me.
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This is what this dude at my gym told me, he wears a belt everyday and i asked him whats the reason, he said it makes your waist tighter. Also im pretty sure from memory im sure i heard Ronnie Coleman mention this about wearing a belt in one of his videos.

Sounds like absolute bullsh't to me.
It's the same concept as a corset which obviously isn't absolute bull****.

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Joshua, Mark Rippetoe said I should squat for big arms. I did this but didn't get bicep or tricep pump and also had no arm DOMs.

Is my form wrong?
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Joshua, Mark Rippetoe said I should squat for big arms. I did this but didn't get bicep or tricep pump and also had no arm DOMs.

Is my form wrong?
lol, if i could get u out of red for that i would
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Joshua, Mark Rippetoe said I should squat for big arms. I did this but didn't get bicep or tricep pump and also had no arm DOMs.

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Yeah it's most definitely the form, you're probably taking the weight on your shoulders (common mistake).
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Joshua, Mark Rippetoe said I should squat for big arms. I did this but didn't get bicep or tricep pump and also had no arm DOMs.

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Try overhead barbell squats and do overhead curls and tricep extensions while you squat so now you can get big arms while you get big arms.

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today was my first day of DC, and i must say its difficulty is overrated, it was hard but not as hard as people make it sound, i had to cut the rest to 10 breaths because i would have gotten 8+7+6 instead i got 8+6+3 with 10, and imo static holds really make a difference in difficulty for this, but i think ill wait a few months to see the results, did you have a similar experience
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It's the same concept as a corset which obviously isn't absolute bull****.

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Jaxxed,

I'm going to be flat BB benching again and was planning on going with a wider grip to isolate my chest more rather than my delts.

How much do you think I'll lose in terms of strength.

Last time I benched I used a shoulder with grip and got 175x4.
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jaxxed,

i just started your 4 day split (the example routine from your other sticky) this week, and I im finding that by the time i get to the isolation exercises/smaller muscle workouts, those muscles are dead. for example, after deadlifting, close and wide grip pulldowns, BB row, yesterday, my biceps just didnt have enough left in them to do anywhere near my normal rep weight for curls. today, after doing bb bench press, incline, flys, crossovers, etc... my tri's were done by the time i got to skullcrushers/rope pulldowns. any suggestions?

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jaxxed,

i just started your 4 day split (the example routine from your other sticky) this week, and I im finding that by the time i get to the isolation exercises/smaller muscle workouts, those muscles are dead. for example, after deadlifting, close and wide grip pulldowns, BB row, yesterday, my biceps just didnt have enough left in them to do anywhere near my normal rep weight for curls. today, after doing bb bench press, incline, flys, crossovers, etc... my tri's were done by the time i got to skullcrushers/rope pulldowns. any suggestions?

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jaxxed,

i just started your 4 day split (the example routine from your other sticky) this week, and I im finding that by the time i get to the isolation exercises/smaller muscle workouts, those muscles are dead. for example, after deadlifting, close and wide grip pulldowns, BB row, yesterday, my biceps just didnt have enough left in them to do anywhere near my normal rep weight for curls. today, after doing bb bench press, incline, flys, crossovers, etc... my tri's were done by the time i got to skullcrushers/rope pulldowns. any suggestions?

thanks a lot
He can only give you advice, it may not work for you! Easiest suggestion I can offer considering I don't know your routine, switch bi's and tri's. Do tri's after back, bi's after chest.
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