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Old 07-06-2009, 07:16 AM   #3421
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Hi every one, it s me who visit Serge last saturday. I ask to tommy to translate for me because i m french and don t speak very well english.
Don t think nobody take care of Serge, he have many visitor every day. The medical staff do his job, no more no less.
It s very hard and sad to see him like that but i speak with the medical staff and he s first wife and all say that he ll recover, slowy and not totally, but all thinks that he can be autonomous once again.
I ll try to visit him some time and report here by tommy or by myself

Sorry for my english again...
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:42 AM   #3422
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Hi every one, it s me who visit Serge last saturday. I ask to tommy to translate for me because i m french and don t speak very well english.
Don t think nobody take care of Serge, he have many visitor every day. The medical staff do his job, no more no less.
It s very hard and sad to see him like that but i speak with the medical staff and he s first wife and all say that he ll recover, slowy and not totally, but all thinks that he can be autonomous once again.
I ll try to visit him some time and report here by tommy or by myself

Sorry for my english again...
Thank you for your post.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:19 AM   #3423
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Hi every one, it s me who visit Serge last saturday. I ask to tommy to translate for me because i m french and don t speak very well english.
Don t think nobody take care of Serge, he have many visitor every day. The medical staff do his job, no more no less.
It s very hard and sad to see him like that but i speak with the medical staff and he s first wife and all say that he ll recover, slowy and not totally, but all thinks that he can be autonomous once again.
I ll try to visit him some time and report here by tommy or by myself

Sorry for my english again...
Merci pour ces informations!
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:16 PM   #3424
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That is some good news. Thanks for letting us know. I think Serge is slowly but surely recovering.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:08 PM   #3425
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Good news! Serge is recovering. Lets keep hope\prayer positive thoughts.
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The latest news I heard was that he was able to eat and drink sometimes on his own instead of through a tube and that he had a brain scan done to test for damage, which keeps being delayed every month so I never hear of any result. Apparantly he is putting on a bit more weight, as he was very skinny especially when I saw him, he looked unhealthy.. which is just not Serge. I have also heard that a physio visits him an hour a day now to help him move again.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:11 AM   #3428
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Smile hello all, slowly we hope he recovers well.

guys just heard of a gentleman who passed away from an instant heart failure he was also 50 years of age , he worked alot and this is it guys, we should eat chillies and take long walks,chill out when possible and rest well, i love chillies but my late uncle had a saying that "when you buy the chillies "YOU PAY" when you eat the chillies "YOU PAY" and when you go to the toilet "YOU PAY" so he always told me that you always pay three times for chillies.me im one step ahead i grow my own chillies.... have fun guys and be kool....
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Excellent news!
Serge is on his way back!

And about doctors who say he wont fully recover?
Nonsense, I believe in Serges mind and body power. He will be back.
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What everyones thinking of my idea of switching each week between Serge program and a 5x5 program? like:

Week 1 : Serge's program
Week 2 : Reg Park's program
Week 3 : Serge's program
etc...

The idea here is I love Serge's program, it get me big pumps and make my muscles biggers but don't make me stronger fast enough and strength is one of my goal in weightlifting.
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What everyones thinking of my idea of switching each week between Serge program and a 5x5 program? like:

Week 1 : Serge's program
Week 2 : Reg Park's program
Week 3 : Serge's program
etc...

The idea here is I love Serge's program, it get me big pumps and make my muscles biggers but don't make me stronger fast enough and strength is one of my goal in weightlifting.
alternate every 3 weeks as oppose to 1 week.
better periodisation.
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hey guys,

IDK why I'm bloated? There is some bloating right above my bellybutton. Anyone know or have a similar experience?
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hey guys,

IDK why I'm bloated? There is some bloating right above my bellybutton. Anyone know or have a similar experience?
?

pics?

bloating above but not below? localised bloating?
or are just holding water?

need better description or pics.
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bloating above but not below? localised bloating?
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need better description or pics.
Thanks Blender,

Its above and below bellybutton. On July 4 visited sisters and had a few beers and a shot of rum. I barely drink, because of my bodybuilding effort.

So on Monday I woke up with a sharp pain on my right side (next to my ab muscle). Couldn't sit up, move to get on my side, in bed. Man did it hurt. Today I finally have releif and the swelling did go down. I'm assuming the condition caused the swelling/bloating, but I've had some bloating in the past caffeine? coffee? soft drinks? sweetener substitutes (splenda, sweet n low). So I don't know. I pretty sure its not Serge training routine related.

Anyone know of bloating caused by some foods?
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Anyone know of bloating caused by some foods?

Yes, when you eat slow carbohydrates (I'm not sure about fast ones like sugar, frutose...) : oat meal, pasta... you should avoid drinking water approximately 45minutes before until 45minutes after the meal. Because those carbs can lead a lot of water in abdominals and make you puffy.

An other good idea would be to drink as much green tea as you can. It's a good diuretic, proven anti-cancer, one of the healthiest thing in the long run.
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Yes, when you eat slow carbohydrates (I'm not sure about fast ones like sugar, frutose...) : oat meal, pasta... you should avoid drinking water approximately 45minutes before until 45minutes after the meal. Because those carbs can lead a lot of water in abdominals and make you puffy.

An other good idea would be to drink as much green tea as you can. It's a good diuretic, proven anti-cancer, one of the healthiest thing in the long run.
Thanks for the advice!
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Yes, when you eat slow carbohydrates (I'm not sure about fast ones like sugar, frutose...) : oat meal, pasta... you should avoid drinking water approximately 45minutes before until 45minutes after the meal. Because those carbs can lead a lot of water in abdominals and make you puffy.

An other good idea would be to drink as much green tea as you can. It's a good diuretic, proven anti-cancer, one of the healthiest thing in the long run.
Ah, I got proof! I went to Denny's for a grand slam and I finished a big bowl of oatmeal, and then downed a glass of water. My stomach was so bloated out and it hurt to walk because I was so full and almost threw up Now I know why.
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What everyones thinking of my idea of switching each week between Serge program and a 5x5 program? like:

Week 1 : Serge's program
Week 2 : Reg Park's program
Week 3 : Serge's program
etc...

The idea here is I love Serge's program, it get me big pumps and make my muscles biggers but don't make me stronger fast enough and strength is one of my goal in weightlifting.
you'll also take benefits from doing a kinda random training program.
exemple:
wk1 serges program
wk2 dorian yates's program
wk3 reg park's program
wk4 program *

* =
exercice one:
with 10 rm :
5 reps 5 sec rest
5reps 5 sec rest
5reps

with 8rm
4 reps 8 sec rest
4 reps 8 sec rest
4reps

with 6 rm
2/3 reps 10 sec rest
2 reps 10 sec rest
2 reps

exercice 2, 3, and maybe 4 : the same


the more you change you program, the more your muscles will react by trying to adapt themeself to the new stress
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Really sad...
Why do you all keep saying things like this and wanting people to intervene and that he is getting inadequate care? What grounds do you have to make statements like these because they are some pretty bold assertions.
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Yes, when you eat slow carbohydrates (I'm not sure about fast ones like sugar, frutose...) : oat meal, pasta... you should avoid drinking water approximately 45minutes before until 45minutes after the meal. Because those carbs can lead a lot of water in abdominals and make you puffy.

An other good idea would be to drink as much green tea as you can. It's a good diuretic, proven anti-cancer, one of the healthiest thing in the long run.
wow. i have asked that queastion before and many told me that was false. but when i read an article by vince gironda. he said drinking water with meal caused weight gain.
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what are you talking about?
just talking about how people have just passed away at 50 years of age (work customer ) and the late michael jackson also just reach 50.now if you don,t eat chillies then you possibly couldn,t know what i mean by pay for chillies. what i mean is that the chillie is a great blood cleaner and not sure if it thins down the blood but if it does it could possibly help in the way of heart attacks and strokes...ie eat more chillies if you can tollerate them...I love them and eat them when having a plate of pasta or even in a salad is nice also....hmmm what about beans and chillies wow.... as they say beans beans are good for the heart the more you eat the more friends you will keep...keep learning young fella and peace......Hercules88...
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" Originally Posted by C-24 View Post
What's sad is that it seems that we (who were learning from Serge during two years on this board) are the only people that are worried about his condition, his family doesn't seem worried at all. I don't see any help that come from IFBB or anybody."

Really sad...
When i visited Serge i saw his first wife and one of his grand-daughter. And they said that he have many visitors each day, notably from the Rem gym where Serge was training.
The medical staff do his job, he is in France not in Somalia for example so stop to say that nobody take care of him.

I' ll visit him soon and i' ll write here news from him
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What's sad is that it seems that we (who were learning from Serge during two years on this board) are the only people that are worried about his condition, his family doesn't seem worried at all. I don't see any help that come from IFBB or anybody."

Really sad...
When i visited Serge i saw his first wife and one of his grand-daughter. And they said that he have many visitors each day, notably from the Rem gym where Serge was training.
The medical staff do his job, he is in France not in Somalia for example so stop to say that nobody take care of him.

I' ll visit him soon and i' ll write here news from him
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just talking about how people have just passed away at 50 years of age (work customer ) and the late michael jackson also just reach 50.now if you don,t eat chillies then you possibly couldn,t know what i mean by pay for chillies. what i mean is that the chillie is a great blood cleaner and not sure if it thins down the blood but if it does it could possibly help in the way of heart attacks and strokes...ie eat more chillies if you can tollerate them...I love them and eat them when having a plate of pasta or even in a salad is nice also....hmmm what about beans and chillies wow.... as they say beans beans are good for the heart the more you eat the more friends you will keep...keep learning young fella and peace......Hercules88...
Your post are the ramblings of a man who forgot to take his medication. You seriously sound deranged.
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just talking about how people have just passed away at 50 years of age (work customer ) and the late michael jackson also just reach 50.now if you don,t eat chillies then you possibly couldn,t know what i mean by pay for chillies. what i mean is that the chillie is a great blood cleaner and not sure if it thins down the blood but if it does it could possibly help in the way of heart attacks and strokes...ie eat more chillies if you can tollerate them...I love them and eat them when having a plate of pasta or even in a salad is nice also....hmmm what about beans and chillies wow.... as they say beans beans are good for the heart the more you eat the more friends you will keep...keep learning young fella and peace......Hercules88...
I love them too and have started eating them with everything
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Your post are the ramblings of a man who forgot to take his medication. You seriously sound deranged.
lol, relax.
his been posting for a while now, we've become accustomed to him.
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Your post are the ramblings of a man who forgot to take his medication. You seriously sound deranged.
dood chill and eat some hot chillies to clean your mouth out, might even put some hairs on your chest.....a man once said treat others as you would be treated ,be nice and you will find people are nice !! as for your concern thank you but i,m thinking that i,m too young for madication ,i mean medication. just love chillies and beans come on you should eat some too Leo it will cheer you up and be positive my friend....peace....
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Your post are the ramblings of a man who forgot to take his medication. You seriously sound deranged.
What WaterBlender said plus English is not his first language, so his thoughts might not be conveyed very succinctly due to vocabulary and grammar limitations.
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What WaterBlender said plus English is not his first language, so his thoughts might not be conveyed very succinctly due to vocabulary and grammar limitations.
Well that makes a bit more sense.
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